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  +0.00p +0.00% 114.50p 112.00p 117.00p 114.50p 114.50p 114.50p 21,500 05:00:01
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Ayesha Akbar Fidelity Investments Buying In the current environment, it makes sense to look for funds that are uncorrelated to other assets. Alternatives - a broad asset universe that includes infrastructure, wind farms and hedge funds – can provide this diversification. Tha'’s why we have invested in Doric Nimrod Air Two, a company that invests in aircraft leasing, in recent months. It offers an attractive yield of more than 8% and strong total return prospects. We took advantage when shares were hit earlier this year after negative headlines about the resale value of the A380 planes the firm leases. hTTps://
An impressive rise on the back of a full page article in Moneyweek (27th July issue).
Science & Environment Ancient Britons 'replaced' by newcomers By Paul Rincon Science editor, BBC News website 21 February 2018 Share this with Facebook Share this with Twitter Share this with Messenger Share this with Email Share Image caption Beaker pottery starts to appear in Britain around 4,500 years ago The ancient population of Britain was almost completely replaced by newcomers about 4,500 years ago, a study shows. The findings mean modern Britons trace just a small fraction of their ancestry to the people who built Stonehenge. The astonishing result comes from analysis of DNA extracted from 400 ancient remains across Europe. The mammoth study, published in Nature, suggests the newcomers, known as Beaker people, replaced 90% of the British gene pool in a few hundred years. Lead author Prof David Reich, from Harvard Medical School in Cambridge, US, said: "The magnitude and suddenness of the population replacement is highly unexpected." The reasons remain unclear, but climate change, disease and ecological disaster could all have played a role. People in Britain lived by hunting and gathering until agriculture was introduced from continental Europe about 6,000 years ago. These Neolithic farmers, who traced their origins to Anatolia (modern Turkey) built giant stone (or "megalithic") structures such as Stonehenge in Wiltshire, huge Earth mounds and sophisticated settlements such as Skara Brae in the Orkneys. But towards the end of the Neolithic, about 4,450 years ago, a new way of life spread to Britain from Europe. People began burying their dead with stylised bell-shaped pots, copper daggers, arrowheads, stone wrist guards and distinctive perforated buttons. Co-author Dr Carles Lalueza-Fox, from the Institute of Evolutionary Biology (IBE) in Barcelona, Spain, said the Beaker traditions probably started "as a kind of fashion" in Iberia after 5,000 years ago. From here, the culture spread very fast by word of mouth to Central Europe. After it was adopted by people in Central Europe, it exploded in every direction - but through the movement of people. Monument builders Prof Reich told BBC News: "Archaeologists ever since the Second World War have been very sceptical about proposals of large-scale movements of people in prehistory. But what the genetics are showing - with the clearest example now in Britain at Beaker times - is that these large-scale migrations occurred, even after the spread of agriculture." The genetic data, from hundreds of ancient British genomes, reveals that the Beakers were a distinct population from the Neolithic British. After their arrival on the island, Beaker genes appear to swamp those of the native farmers. Prof Reich added: "The previous inhabitants had just put up the big stones at Stonehenge, which became a national place of pilgrimage as reflected by goods brought from the far corners of Britain." Image copyright Getty Images He added: "The sophisticated ancient peoples who built that monument and ones like it could not have known that within a short period of time their descendants would be gone and their lands overrun." The newcomers brought ancestry from nomadic groups originating on the Pontic Steppe, a grassland region extending from Ukraine to Kazakhstan. These nomads moved west during the Neolithic, mixing heavily with established populations in Europe. The Beaker migration marks the first time this eastern genetic signature appears in Britain. Archaeologist and study co-author Mike Parker Pearson, from University College London (UCL), said Neolithic Britons and Beaker groups organised their societies in very different ways. The construction of massive stone monuments, co-opting hundreds of people, was an alien concept to Beakers, but the Neolithic British community "has that absolutely as its core rationale". "[The Beaker people] are not prepared to collaborate on enormous labour-mobilising projects; their society is more de-centralised," said Prof Parker Pearson. "We don't have a good expression for it, but the Americans do, and that is: nobody is willing to work for 'The Man'." 'Neolithic Brexit' The Beaker folk seemed to favour more modest round "barrows", or earth burial mounds, to cover the distinguished dead. The group is also intimately associated with the arrival of metalworking to Britain. Prof Parker Pearson commented: "They're the people who bring Britain out of the Stone Age. Up until then, the people of Britain had cut themselves off from the continent - 'Neolithic Brexit'. This is the moment when Britain re-joins the continent after 1,000 years of isolation - most of the rest of Europe was well out of the Stone Age by this point." What triggered the massive genetic shift remains unclear. But a paper published in PNAS journal last year suggested a downturn in the climate around 5,500 years ago (3,500 BC) pushed Neolithic populations into a thousand-year-long decline. Image copyright SPL Image caption Neolithic people built sophisticated settlements at Skara Brae in Scotland Dr Steven Shennan, from UCL, who co-authored that study, told BBC News: "In Britain, after a population peak at around 3,500 or 3,600 BC, the population goes down steadily and it stays at a pretty low level until about 2,500 BC and then starts going up again. Around 2,500 BC the population is very low and that's precisely when the Beaker population seems to come in." The reasons behind this slow population decline were probably complex, but the temporary downturn in the climate caused a permanent change in the way people farmed. One possibility is that the over-exploitation of land by Neolithic farmers applied pressure to food production. Plague question But disease may also have played a role in the population shift: "We have some intriguing evidence that some of the Steppe nomads carried plague with them," said Lalueza-Fox. "It could just be that the plague went with these migrants into Britain and the Neolithic population had not been in contact with this pathogen before." Whatever did happen, Prof Parker Pearson is doubtful about the possibility of a violent invasion. The Beakers, he said, were "moving in very small groups or individually". He explained: "This is no great horde, jumping in boats en masse... it's a very long, slow process of migration." Furthermore, the incidence of interpersonal violence appears to be higher in Neolithic Britain (7%) than it was in the Beaker period (1%) The Nature study examines the Beaker phenomenon across Europe using DNA from hundreds more samples, including remains from Holland, Spain, the Czech Republic, Italy and France. Another intriguing possibility links the Beaker people with the spread of Celtic languages. Although many linguistics experts believe Celtic spread thousands of years later, Dr Lalueza-Fox said: "In my view, the massive population turnover must be accompanied by a language replacement."
Emirates have already ordered 20 more A380 + options on a further 16. Delivery to start in 2020. Demand for spares from ex lease planes should be more secure and hence price of a 'used' one at around $100m is more secure.
Big "IF" this additional Emirates order. But POO is riding high so must be chucking out the cash - decent odd on an additional order(which will be suitably discounted) Chance of Emirates going bust - minimal one suspects.National prestige etc. S continues to fall - every chance.Is it at parity to Euro, ££, yen or other major currencies???? Any forex afficionados out there? Residual value will be A LOT Lower than their estimates. the absence of demand in itself evidences this likely outcome.
If we get an Emirates order for more A380's then all The DNA shares should rise sharply, DNA1 by the most. general risks - Emirates go bust, $ continues to fall in value (down 10% in past year) but the big one is that the residual value of a used plane falls sharply. Currently DNA has a total return to the end of the lease of around 15%pa based on $104m and an exchange rate of $1.3733/£. The break even figure is around $33.9m. The end of March update should give us a new valuation. Topped up, and intrigued that DNA2 actually rose on the day we went XD which puts it well out of step with the other editions.
First leased A380 is returned to leasing company and put into storage hTtp://
Emirates goes cold on A380 hTtps://
The Bloomberg article gives me great comfort. It's the first independent view on the future value of the planes and is dead in line with the DNA figures - $110m at launch and $104m now. We still have five years to go but the shares should eventually start showing a price rise on asset value, not just pinned on the dividend yield.
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A380 production cut again hTtp://
Recent industry talk is not positive on the long term future of the A380. Emirates are suggesting they may renew leases on such aircraft for a further 12 years rather than buy more or buy at end of lease. Airbus have unveiled a new model with winglets which is a bit more efficient. They are suggesting that capacity issues at airports in the 2020s may bring larger jets into focus again, but at the moment they look to be struggling to take new orders. Seems possible for DNA that they may have trouble selling these aircraft on at end of lease and could end up leasing them for the lifespan of the aircraft.
Post below from the DNA3 thread. If there were doubts about the resale value of the A380s why would Amedeo-Air-Four-Plus be buying 2 more? sf515 Dec '16 - 10:14 - 4 of 5 0 0 Interesting that AA4, a sister company, has just received EGM approval to purchase 2 more A380s for lease to Etihad Airways (not an airline I'd heard of but 2nd largest in UAE)
It may be that they never sell them, just keep leasing for the lifetime of the aircraft, by which point most of us will be old or gone, only pinch point is if major investors request a wind up of these vehicles and there is a forced sale.
I'd probably buy it. There seems to be doubt about the resale value of these aircraft but on the DNA3 thread there's a link to a new DNA type vehicle leasing out a new A380. The 258p value is based on valuation of 3 independent valuers so happy to go along with that. And apparently the fact these are long haul aircraft means they can remain in service longer, perhaps 25 years or longer, because they do less flights and so minimize the compression/decompression cycle which is the thing that ages an aircraft most.
You would only get 258p if they can sell the aircraft. According to Emirates own comments there, they don't sound interested in buying it. And they run nearly half of all the A380s in existence. So who will buy it?
2.25p quarterly divi declaration today Also the quarterly update - Forecast 258p total return over the next 6 years "...Also in November 2016 Emirates indicated that it will likely seek to extend leases on its A380s. Asked about the probability of using the aircraft beyond the 12 years the operator has typically contracted, Emirates' senior vice president of corporate treasury said "we want to keep it for a long time. The type has proven to be a flexible platform" and is a core product for the airline..."
AA4 the new Nimrod IPO started trading today at a premium.
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