Centamin Share Discussion Threads

[troc1958] 09/12/2021 13:07

JackmaWorld Doctors Alliance has very little global credibility within the medical world. Do your research.Apologies to all on the CEY board for this diversion. Please can we keep this board to CEY matters and if you want to discuss other issues please message people privately or post on a relevant board! Troc

[amaretto1] 09/12/2021 12:51

That's absolutely NOT true ..... 1000s have left !!

[rose_by_another_name] 09/12/2021 12:33

Those pushing these measures will certainly
characterise any resignations as anything
but protest against the policy. Doctors,
nurses, and other staff will be resigning
to "spend more time with their families",
etc.

[rovi70] 09/12/2021 12:25

Australia has about 400,000 nurses, the drop out rate is only marginally higher than usual, mainly down to burn out. The nurse's union thinks that the drop out rate due to having to be vaccinated is low as most health professionals agree that vaccines are the way forward.

[spacedust] 09/12/2021 12:11

Virus concerns resurface. They are using exactly the same lines i said they would use few days ago

[spacedust] 09/12/2021 12:10

So yesterday it was market shrugs off virus concerns. Today its the opposite

[rose_by_another_name] 09/12/2021 11:48

zzfritzz- That is what scientists (real
scientists) call anecdotal evidence.
Your wife has certainly not questioned
every person in her hospital, and they
are not under any obligation to tell her
her anything or to be truthful. Maybe
the administrators know, as they would
have to to enforce the mandate, which is
not yet actually being enforced, and may
be dropped by the time it is meant to
come into effect.

Assuming your post, from an anonymous
account (as are we all), is factual.
Links to an outside source of data
would be more convincing.

[jackmya] 09/12/2021 11:48

Zzfritx I suggest you do some research I've witnessed personal. Statements from.any doctors who have resigned. There was a doctor who only last week vomited suicide leaving a video statement he could no longer live with the guilt of knowing the hospitals were mistreating thier patience.. I suggest you check. Telegram there you have World doctors alliance. Which is made up of thousands of doctors worldwide who personal. Statements you can read also advice on how to treat the spike protien from the vaccines... In Delaide alone South Australia only a few weeks back over 5000 nurses resigned due to wishing not yo partake in the vaccine trials

[imastu pidgitaswell] 09/12/2021 11:21

As I say, there are some uncertainties in those numbers - I don't know this share as well as some. Any corrections appreciated - kenny or anyone else, and then we can discuss any implications - off out to practice the golf; it needs it.

[zzfritzz] 09/12/2021 10:41

Jackmya, that’s total bs. My wife is a hospital doctor in a large London teaching hospital and she doesn’t know a single colleague that has resigned or who has refused the vaccine.

[trader465] 09/12/2021 10:18

Stupid is generally good at doing the legwork for us 👍

Confirms what I’ve been saying, Kenny’s big fat divvy will be cut, cash is going out the door very quickly here

[plat hunter] 09/12/2021 09:57

Thank's stu, insightful and appreciated post

[imastu pidgitaswell] 09/12/2021 09:51

kenny - it's time we had some numbers on this; too much heat and not a lot of light.

Attempt at a cashflow from 2019 to 2025. 2019 and 2020 are actuals, taken from the cashflow statement. Using the stuff from the other day to produce revenue and capex forecasts, and the others - may need some tweaking.

In particular, 2021 dividend - is that right? Later dividends are just me putting in an estimate, because if they are higher, the cash goes negative. Also the PBT estimates are based on revenue changes (all at $1,800 per oz, and assuming production = sales). And 'tax' is all rolled up into the Egypt government payments (done as 50% of the PBT) - correct? Volume levels are mid points of the forecasts they just published.

Would quite like to keep this as an Excel model and update as facts come out. Anything else look wrong/right? And when OK we can take about what it means (if anything - although I think it means lower dividends.)


..................................2019....2020....2021....2022....2023....2024

Volumes sold.......................470.....469.....415.....445.....465.....475

...................................£'m.....£'m.....£'m.....£'m.....£'m.....£'m
Revenue............................652.....828.....747.....801.....837.....855

Profit Before Tax..................173.....315.....250.....268.....280.....286
Depreciation.......................116.....124.....120.....120.....120.....120
Other movements....................(40).....14
Operating Cashflow.................249.....453.....370.....388.....400.....406


Opening Cash.......................283.....278.....291.....171.....110......95

Operating Cash Flow...(as above)...249.....453.....370.....388.....400.....406
Capex..............................(81)...(127)...(225)...(215)...(175)...(165)
Egypt Government...................(87)...(174)...(125)...(134)...(140)...(143)
Other (net).........................(5).....(1)
Shareholder dividends..............(81)...(138)...(140)...(100)...(100)...(100)
Change in Cash......................(5).....13....(120)....(61)....(15).....(2)

Closing Cash.......................278.....291.....171.....110......95......93

[amanitaangelicus] 09/12/2021 09:45

Plat posting on Avacta ...are you feelin lucky punk? HUA UK and EU due, plus poss APAC region deal going fwd. Mkt cap juicy as though ...little to no revenue, bit maybe has around 30-35m cash currently. Risky as. Braveheart at 30p ish, mkt cap 17m ish. Sector hotting up again but v risky.Ps enjoy the fun ...the board.s dire, more ramping vipers and traders than here! Lol.

[amanitaangelicus] 09/12/2021 09:41

Ps Big 85p buy order in ...and I mean big. Ooph.

[amanitaangelicus] 09/12/2021 09:40

Egypt ...corrupt ...always has been, always will be. Water wars etc should see things become way worse. They.ll be cash going out the back door faster than you can say , BoJos a liar. 90p ish now, who.s buying. Gov taken a rather negative view of Omi I agree. Another week and we.ll have better data ...hospitalisation and deaths. The elderly, vulnerable cull goes on. Old? Vulnerable? Roll up, roll up, gan to the pub, have a bowl of soup, have a prawn sarnie and a cuppa ...you dont need a mask ...even if your chosen place is rammed! Come on support the nhs now. You.re old, worthless, a burden on the nhs going fwd , get your soup n a bun now...we dont need you. Dont want to clubbing ? You can! Show us your double jabbed or have had a naff, cheap chinese LFT. Roll up. The rules are nuts.As BoJo and Frank Gallagher would say, ' Party!'

[trader465] 09/12/2021 09:37

Kenny the clown - you are clearly missing the fact that the Egyptian mafia have their hands in your pockets

[kennyp52] 09/12/2021 09:30

trader4659 Dec '21 - 09:10 - 50533 of 50536
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“60k extra Oz is circa extra $100m cash”

Kenny the clown obviously needs to buy a new calculator 🤡

What do you get then TraderBumBoy? 60,000 x $1,700 POG ( conservatively hopefully ) is over $100m 🤷‍a94;️. You are an embarrassment .. is it this kind of thing that got you sacked ? Apologise if you are man enough to .

Roger207 one of your avatars Trader ? Moron filtered .

[roger207] 09/12/2021 09:27

55p possibility increases

[plat hunter] 09/12/2021 09:18

Crimea wasn't a traditional troop invasion mind...Mercenaries and politicaly like minded civilians where already there and did it off their own back.... Apparently.Like you say smoke and mirrors. However Ukraine have been beefing up their military since then, so putin could equally be proliferating to defend the previously annexed territory. We will of course only hear one side of it, as will the Russian population.

[trader465] 09/12/2021 09:14

Don’t forget half of all CEY profit goes to the Egyptian mafia. Dividend policy is to return only 30% of the leftovers to shareholders.

Other PM miners return 50% of all profits to shareholders

[jackmya] 09/12/2021 09:12

On a positive note for Cey.. I believe at these prices cey are extremely cheap.. Looking forward you can expect precious metals to ky rocket which will be great news for cey. Over the next several years inflation will be rampant regardless of what the IMF tell you the fiat system is under attack from the central banks which wish to bring in a new digital system and do away with cash. This will be under a credit system similar to china's this will cause billionaires and millionaires to look for places to hide they're ill gained wealth.. Gold we could see go to 10k and beyond

[trader465] 09/12/2021 09:10

“60k extra Oz is circa extra $100m cash”

Kenny the clown obviously needs to buy a new calculator 🤡

[jackmya] 09/12/2021 09:06

Hi Spacedust.. Yes I now know of last count 210 fifa registered footballers who have died vaccine with strong possibilities of vaccine deaths. Also many sports stars around the globe ie marathon runners tennis players basket ball players even referees the vaccine seems to effect the younger person with swelling and inflammation of the heart. Many persons I personally say they have suffered heart pulpitations since the vaccine. The world doctors alliance recommend the vaccines be stopped immediately...