Carnival Share Discussion Threads

[niggle] 04/1/2021 15:49

Any further lockdown won't affect when this company gets operational again. It's just a process we need to go through while the vaccine gets rolled out.

[ccnp] 04/1/2021 13:10

Scaremongering? I didn't even mention the fundamentals of the debt pile.

Deramp? I think i said that was what the post was about. Sorry you don't like it.

Paying for all excursions from on board credit? And service tips (which actually pay the basic wages of thee staff)? And bar bill?. Might it be that you travel alone, don't take many excursions and are teetotal?

We take the family on about a big cruise each year and the odd one week bargain for me and the boss. I have also done some work on the Carnival Corp systems. I think I have a reasonable grasp of their operation, cashflow and structure.

A trip round the UK? Sorry but is that what you call a cruise????? Not really talking about the same thing I fear.

[pierre oreilly] 04/1/2021 11:51

Ccnp, I like balance, but yours is nothing more than a scaremongering deramp.Under normal circumstances, cruise ships are very highly profitable, one days sailing when they resume fully will cover 7 days not sailing. Among your misconceptions (I'm being generous), cruise ships don't need people on excursions to make a healthy profit. All my excursions are paid for with onboard credit CCL give me. Anyone who pays with their own money just contributes to even fatter profits.The immediate situation isnt fantastic here, but will be once cruising fully restarts, fully occupied, which I guess s a year away yet. Scaremongering with made up nonsense doesn't help anyone, least of all yourself.I've been looking recently to book, and I'm surprised at the current high cruise costs. Can sail round the UK with QE with no insuranc problems. Hopefully, CCL will soon supply covid cover with all cruises.

[ccnp] 04/1/2021 11:35

To pick up on a few ramps and give some balance

UK trippers will be 90% safe. What are the chances 1 of the 6,000 souls packed into a virus loving A/C on a cruise boat will have a sample of the other 10%? Especially if the good old US of A citizens join them.

Even if you get pre trip cover from CCL, your travel insurance won’t cover you once the cruise starts.

And a ship with COVID won’t get port entry permission anywhere, let alone disembarkation without extended quarantine.

And do you want to go ashore? The cruise ship people NEED you to spend money on excursions. Basic price doesn’t make for profits. So you get off the boat into a country where inoculation is going slowly. What then?

Just had a look at Torquay and Weymouth anchorages. No movement of cruise ships.

Lots of room to catch a cold with cruise shares

[tlobs2] 30/12/2020 20:32

Great news about the second UK vaccine today.

With two cruises cancelled last year we are looking forward to hopefully going somewhere next year!

I have read posts on other social media places where it says (rightly or wrongly) that masks must be worn ...blar blar

I will not be going on a cruise ship fully inoculated, virus free and then asked to wear a mask. it's not going to happen.

Come P & O or whoever. Start planning "normal" cruises for your UK virus free customers. Oh and for those who don't want to be inoculated but want to cruise then tough. It's your choice.

[undervaluedassets] 30/12/2020 08:51

vaccine being rolled out super fast.

The 'grey pound' is champing at the bit

[onehanded] 30/12/2020 07:25

CARRY on cruising.... Should see £25 tested in 2021 1st quarter...

AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccine has been approved for emergency supply in the UK, with the first doses being released today so that vaccinations may begin early in the New Year.The UK Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) has provided authorisation for emergency supply of COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca, formerly AZD1222, for the active immunisation of individuals 18 years or older. The authorisation recommends two doses administered with an interval of between four and 12 weeks. This regimen was shown in clinical trials to be safe and effective at preventing symptomatic COVID-19, with no severe cases and no hospitalisations more than 14 days after the second dose. AstraZeneca is working with Public Health England and National Health Service England to support the deployment and roll out of the vaccine in the UK, in line with the MHRA and the UK's Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation dosing recommendation. The Company aims to supply millions of doses in the first quarter as part of an agreement with the government to supply up to 100 million doses in total.

[onehanded] 29/12/2020 15:43

BREAKING—95%—new data from Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine shows 95% efficacy & is “100% effective” in preventing severe illness, says AZ CEO.

[onehanded] 29/12/2020 13:03

Cruises to start by May.

[tradejunkie2] 27/12/2020 17:35

wendsworth, I suspect most pensioners that have the opportunity for an injection will be cruising very soon.

[nick100] 26/12/2020 14:18

Consolidation do not work look at NatWest

[sharetalk] 26/12/2020 09:24

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9088541/amp/The-drug-gives-instant-immunity-coronavirus-UK-trials-new-antibody-therapy.html

[undervaluedassets] 24/12/2020 08:24

The oldies can't wait to go cruising again.

And CCL have abundant bookings way out into the future.

Plus they have temporarily retired 3 ships for refurbishment putting a squeeze on capacity.

It is obvious that as the Vaccine is rolled out (with seniors getting it first), this recovers and recovers fast.

[wendsworth] 21/12/2020 15:53

Over-valued ? Cruise ships have been at anchor with skeleton crews in Lyme Bay for some nine months . I see no change for at east another 3 to 6 months. Cruising willbe a hard sell to the lucrative over sixties many of whom are COVID19 clinically vulnerable and shielding. I guess the older ships will be heading for the breakers.
As to fair value share price ...probably nearer 600p is my take.

[ccnp] 21/12/2020 08:13

Try Googling

Royal Caribbean Singapore cruise to nowhere

[peantern1] 18/12/2020 15:28

The new Mardi Gras arrived today and will be in service April 2021 followed by Celebration in 2022.

[smurfy2001] 17/12/2020 10:34

"who does not give a stuff what people think of me."

Good chap.

[undervaluedassets] 14/12/2020 08:43

Smurfy, I hope so. I aspire to be an opinionated old curmudgeon who does not give a stuff what people think of me.

In my mind I can hear friends of mine shouting "you already are"

[jcl124] 11/12/2020 20:23

Suspect there will be a bit of readjustment before this moves ahead. The likelihood of cruises not happening in the late spring are zero.

[justiceforthemany] 10/12/2020 23:22

Medical experts advising the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have recommended emergency approval for the Pfizer-BioNTech coronavirus vaccine.

The decision comes after a 23-member panel met to determine whether the drug's benefits outweigh the risks.

The Pfizer vaccine has already been approved for the public in the UK, Canada, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia.

[ohojim] 10/12/2020 15:57

....If anybody needs lessons in how to kill a thread, I'm your man ;-)

[ccnp] 09/12/2020 13:26

one thing about cruising for Brits is the wonderful realisation of just how much of a spring chicken you are when the US contingent appear.

We saw one lady of immensely ample proportions in Whittier having to be helped up a perfectly normal pavement curb (visualise hubby having to bend down, insert a shoulder in wifey's buttocks and HEAVE), then assisted onto the train by forklift and then in order to gain access to the lounge upstairs, being put on a lift that was specifically there for the magnificently obese.

What comes after 'morbidly' in the obese classification?