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CLLN Carillion Plc

14.20
0.00 (0.00%)
28 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Carillion Plc LSE:CLLN London Ordinary Share GB0007365546 ORD 50P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 14.20 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
20/7/2017
19:11
CON - struction says it all.

Stay away to save your health.

escapetohome
20/7/2017
16:07
RCT2 : "Long term I think this is definitely in trouble." OMG - You mean it isn't already? :)
nomdeplume
20/7/2017
14:46
Utmost faith we will bounce.
racg
20/7/2017
14:14
Anyone buying here may well be left holding the baby especially as the herd seems to have moved on.
fenners66
20/7/2017
13:25
Anyone buying here is taking a gamble on a short term price rise. Long term I think this is definitely in trouble.
rcturner2
20/7/2017
07:48
Taken a few.
excell1
20/7/2017
07:02
Keep it to CLLN please.
excell1
20/7/2017
04:00
If anybody has read the above. COIN is the company to be investing in !
cathuk
19/7/2017
21:38
It's chiefed.
sirhedgealot
19/7/2017
18:27
Still 2 profit warnings to go remember !
cathuk
19/7/2017
18:08
Even the Highways Industry have been putting out notes.

www.highwaysindustry.com/bts-openreach-launch-a-forensic-investigation-into-1-5bn-carillion-deal/

sux_2bu
19/7/2017
17:42
Pretty dire. Don't give up the day job.
racg
19/7/2017
17:31
Short tracker still showing 19.74% short a small decline, but largest on the market.
Makes sense to cash in some of that and leave the rest on the table.

Perhaps if we can keep a debate going about CLLN's issues rather than the bickering ?


As already said profit warnings generally come in 3's most likely with some good psychology behind that.

Remember CLLN stated that a review of cashflow had prompted the discovery and write off of £850m.

So my take on what that actually meant ...

Senior management to operating arm - "hows things going?"

operating arm " Ok ,bit slow but we have billed "
3 months go by

Senior management to operating arm - "hows things going?"
operating arm " Ok ,bit slow but we are struggling with collecting billed work"

2 months goes by
Senior management to operating arm - "Where is the cash?"
operating arm " Ah well there might be a small issue on one of the contracts , nothing to worry about"

1 month goes by
Senior management to operating arm - "Where is the cash, do we need to send someone to collect it?"
operating arm " Well that small issue may be a bit bigger than we thought"


1 month goes by
Senior management to operating arm - "We'll have to review the situation, we'll get some outside auditors in because they don't know the details and will never get the wool pulled over their eyes"
operating arm " Ok well there is no need to panic I'm sure....."


1 month goes by
Senior management to operating arm - "We're screwed - aren't YOU ! "
operating arm " Ok we've identified a small provision required - not much cash cost to worry about though....."

Senior management to the markets £850m should cover it
Senior management to operating arm - " is that really everything? "

And so it goes on - human nature to delay the bad news in the hope that
a, it gets better
b, someone else declares their bad news first, it may be worse than yours and then you don't look as bad
c, that may mean senior management gets others to sack first and has not got time to sack you
d, just delaying the inevitable in order to get some interviews in first....

Howzat?

fenners66
19/7/2017
16:04
After a couple of days holding these I've decided to get out and take a small profit. Having dug deep into the numbers, a pension deficit of 3 times current market value as well as debts of a similar magnitude, and contracts that produce small and dwindling margins, even a heavily discounted rights issue is not going to generate enough cash to keep this company going in it's current mode. I'll watch from afar, but I think that the next piece of news is not going to be good. Hope for those holding I'm wrong. Best of luck guys. DYOR
curriedquaker
19/7/2017
15:26
It will be again....once finance is sorted ;)
sux_2bu
19/7/2017
15:20
Hot money came.... and went.It was a deliciously easy thing to trade for 2 days.
festario
19/7/2017
15:13
Funny that. All the noise on this thread last week and now nothing!
right honorable lord lucan
19/7/2017
12:54
And talking to yourself by the looks of things! Presumably the day traders have moved on.
grahamite2
19/7/2017
12:50
I am stating mere fact, not opinion!
scamper
19/7/2017
10:36
Interesting, can't short. Volume drops...not much buying interest either ..
scamper
19/7/2017
09:04
CON - struction

Poor poor training of staff

Poor poor understanding of risks

Poor poor planning

After easy steady drip of govermnent money, its all they want.

escapetohome
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