Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Camellia Plc LSE:CAM London Ordinary Share GB0001667087 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 9,050.00 8,900.00 9,200.00 0.00 0.00 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
General Financial 309.8 52.5 912.4 9.9 250

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27/7/2001
23:33
Apologies for not replying qiucker John. Firstly institutional trades will never be shown live/real time it`s known as disclosure and would give competitoirs an hedge/advantage as they could then trade actively against/for that position for this reason alone trading will never be on an even basis. Insider trading, again chinese walls are a waste of time humans are by nature communicators and so leaks will always occur. The city view shares as commodities and are there simply to be traded long/short whatever like any other indice/commodity on an open market. I`m sorry if the explanations a bit brief but i`ve covered some of the points.
ianw
27/7/2001
23:24
Here are just a few that warrent serious investigation Scoot Balti bookham - Rights at £35 how was this sold? Game Redstone All companies which were actively promoted by the press and their own stockbrookers to name just afew. Its one thing a price falling but to be actuall fed a diet of mis information? Example, what was Scoots meeting all about last Friday if they dident know what was going on? Good Luck with your thread.
goggin
27/7/2001
12:03
I agree with IanW on some of the points raised. The big institutions probably don't like having to tell everyone of their positions after the event has actually happened as they do now. By having to inform everyone when they place the trades, competitors and traders will try to make money off of the situation. If everyone knew that big company A wanted to buy a large number of shares and an MM was trying to fill the order, everyone would then start buying a few in the expectation that the price would rise a few pence. With all of this sudden buying pressure, you'll introduce a lot of unnecessary volatility into the market which would be bad for all concerned. I'd be interested in seeing details of the stocks that the MMs hold but again, I suspect that this would create opportunities to allow larger companies to create a false market by hedging etc. One thing I'm not sure on, and maybe someone can enlighten me, are the rules regarding MMs going short. Are they actually allowed to do so? And if not, surely catching them would be quite simple for any auditor (or even the registrar)? I agree with the comments on insider trading but look from the perspective of the SFA. How do you identify trades that are based upon insider information? Millions of trades happen each week and checking all of them would be nigh on impossible. However, when they do catch those responsible, I think the punishment should be harsher. The unfortunate situation is that if the rules are changed, someone, somewhere will find a way of exploiting them and the rules will have to be changed again. At least at the moment, the goal posts stay in the same place, even if they're not very wide. Stuart
skirbell
27/7/2001
11:44
IanW, How is the game played then in your opinion ?
johnmfrancis
26/7/2001
15:01
Its a nice thought John but as we all know thats not how the game is played. Interested to know peoples experiences with the SFA or Compliance officers.(i`m sure there`s some stories to tell out there.)
ianw
26/7/2001
09:58
Many small investors personal fortunes will have been decimated during the last year for a whole variety of reasons. Even with level 2 information I feel a whole lot of information is witheld from investors which if they had known about they would not have taken that buy/sell/hold decision. For example how many times have you been amazed to see say a 20:1 buy/sell ratio and the price not move. Only to see several days later a huge late reported (protected trade) sell ? I think it is time for all of us to put together a campaign for more freedom of information to put to the LSE for consideration. All rules and regulations need revising and updating from time to time and I feel that with the advent of the internet and much trading and information sharing and trading taking place via it during recent years then these regulations ought to be more frequently addressed. Please could everyone post their ideas on how the LSE could be improved for everyone so say these can be presented for consideration. I certainly believe the recent rule making it an offence to knowingly post false information on BBS was a step in the right direction. A few of my "radical" ideas are as follows 1.What I and many otheres would like to see is a type of level 2 info whereby all MMS current stock levels and order books are public information so we can all see fair play. There should be no late trade reporting - all trades without exception should be reported immediatley. If a trade is a short it should be reported as such also. All trades and orders of a certain size should have the identity of the buyer/seller published and the associated MM.To prevent the existance of a behind the scenes grey market IE a behind the scenes agreements between MArket maker and CLient heavy regulation should be introduced. No one with any sense of fairness could surely object to this. What I am trying to say is that price should be soley determined by supply and demand and not shady behind the scenes deals. 2.Insider dealing should be heavily clamped down on. We need to see more proscutions for this and evidence that current rules are being rigourously applied. 3.The recent Redstone fiasco should be thoroghly investigated, If it is indeed true that a Market Maker has (or colluded with other MMS) to create a false market IE going short of many millions of shares so other branches of the same firm can get the shares for next to nothing then this sort of activity should be made illegal (against LSE rules) and be punishable by a heavy fine and the MMS made to reverse all relevant trades. Drastic share price collapses in similar situations should also be followed up and investigated for evidence of similar activity. 4.The LSE should issue monthly news bulletins summarising regulatory activity that is going on the detail of which should be public info. This should include how we as a community of private investors can take steps to request a change in the rules. Once all ideas are collated perhaps we can have a volunteer to out these all into an official letter to the LSE. Perhaps we can also get the various financial press interested in publishing such a letter. We would also like an official reaction and explanation to all points raised. Come on you lot all ideas encouraged - it is for everyone's benefit who believes in fair play for all !!
johnmfrancis
08/5/2001
12:23
Epic code should be CAB. I bought this share last week and I'm fed up of that guy PG. trying to pinch all my best stocks.
jhan66
08/5/2001
12:14
Anyone follow this stock.Gyllenhammar has a good record of flushing out value in small cap stocks.
sjc
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