Byotrol Share Discussion Threads

[brownson] 12/1/2021 12:01

More likely to suck

[football] 12/1/2021 11:43

i'm i the only one here that gets the feeling this is about to blow?

[longago] 10/1/2021 22:58

STT – I’ve held Byotrol shares for some time but don’t trade in them. I’ve also been looking at this chat board for a couple of years, and did indeed register my username in order to comment on your comparison of Byotrol’s response to the pandemic with that of Unilever. Every bulletin board needs a Jeremiah to remind readers of the downsides and you seem an ideal candidate for that, but do you not realise that you lose effectiveness if you only ever use black paint and your cups are always half empty, never half full? For what it’s worth my guess is that (world and coronavirus events permitting!) the hard work and good science that Byotrol trades on will see their shares rise further in the year to come.

[1gw] 10/1/2021 11:02

Good youtube review for the TW product, as a cleaner not just as a disinfectant. Also good to note the usage creep from auto cleaning/disinfection to general surface cleaning/disinfection.

[riddlerone] 08/1/2021 20:18

I wonder if they are stocking them in the 5928 stores they have as well.

[1gw] 08/1/2021 16:28

Now live on AutoZone.

[football] 08/1/2021 14:45

Byotrol PLC
Capital reduction

RNS Number : 0605L
Byotrol PLC
08 January 2021

[1gw] 08/1/2021 10:43

You'd have to ask byotrol about that riddlerone.

I would have thought it might make more sense to license a product that was already cleared for sale, presumably byotrol 4-in-1 (actizone) for the UK/Europe. It would be different product in the bottle so TW would have to label it differently and ensure that any claims they wanted to make on the label or in advertising were valid and had any necessary regulatory approvals - but I would have thought that might be a quicker process than securing UK/EU approval for byotrol24 (unless byotrol already have that approval or are well underway with it).

Edit: although I don't know what sub-licensing rights byotrol has on actizone, so it might have to be structured as a supply deal (like Tristel) rather than a licensing deal if they wanted to do it with actizone.

[riddlerone] 08/1/2021 10:15

1gw how difficult do you think it would be if they wanted to license and sell this product in the UK? I would guess the numbers would be quite small so would they do an EU/UK deal and what regulation hurdles do you think that would that bring.

[rivaldo] 08/1/2021 09:58

RNS - capital reduction is now effective. Presumably dividends are now very much a possibility....

[football] 07/1/2021 23:17

Quotes. Lex Luthor : Some people can read War and Peace and come away thinking it's a simple adventure story. Others can read the ingredients on a chewing gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe.


Some people think they know more than anyone else while knowing sweetFA

[sikhthetech] 07/1/2021 22:59

Bagsandbags, 13th Oct is after 30th Sept so they were late.
They even said so in their rns.
Audited accounts for fy2020, ending March 2020 were late - eventually published 13th Oct, over 6 months later than the fy end.


"Byotrol also announces that its auditors have informed the Company that they may not have completed their internal clearance processes in time for the release of the final audited results on or before 30 September 2020 pursuant to AIM Rule 19"

"Whilst the Company is hopeful that the final results will be available by that date, pursuant to the guidance published by the London Stock Exchange in respect of the temporary measures for the publication of annual audited reports for AIM companies, Byotrol intends to utilise if needed the additional three month period to prepare and publish the audited results for the year."




Read the company newsflow. expect the share price to rise tomorrow with the pump/dump

[sikhthetech] 07/1/2021 22:34

Fact, Tristel's Q&A from a few months ago.


Tstl stated the position perfectly regarding tech and commercial success.


"The challenge we face with our partner Byotrol is essentially one of marketing communication: messaging. Today, UK hospitals use Jet because it is a high-performance, fast-acting biocide, effective against bacterial spores and compliant with every European legal requirement for disinfectants within one standard contact time of 1 minute, that is easy and convenient to use, and priced competitively to
pre-wetted wipes incorporating far less effective disinfectant chemistries."


"The intermediate level disinfectant formulation that has also been licensed from Byotrol will sit in one or more of the Cache Collection SKUs, alongside other formulation offers that come from our own stable of non-CLO2 chemistries. The Byotrol intermediate level formulation is very well-documented and supported by their technical team. "


"We are enthusiastic for the combinatorial proposition but it is important that we set expectations sensibly (we follow with interest the excitable dialogue on the share chat rooms): this is not a gamechanging technological advance for Tristel plc. The grounded truth is that with our partner Byotrol we have created something unique from a chemistry perspective"
" The commercial success of that proposition will take a long time to
determine."



Expect the share price to rise tomorrow as it's pumped/dumped.

[milesy] 07/1/2021 22:28

On Jan 2, 2020 BYOT opened just shy of 1.7p and closed the year close to 7p, a rise of over 400%.

Selective use of data to build a straw man argument, ascribing unproven motives to people's actions and using jam (coloured text) today in an attempt to add emphasis to ones words really doesn't detract from the bigger picture.

[bagsandbags] 07/1/2021 22:27

Sikh - i have been following this stock for many years like you, but unlike you I have a holding and am not waging a vendetta against certain other holders.
Your posts are depressingly and consistently half-truths, misleading statements, malevolent omission and forensic analyses of the weaker individual trees only, but never any understanding of the wood. This last one is a classic - Newlands in fact went above 3% again in December; the Company was not late on audited results this last year, all the deadlines were relaxed by the LSE due to covid and they were well within the rules.
Whilst you bang on about irrelevant detail, the other holders you despise are trading in and out - and making really good money whilst they are doing it. Indeed I suspect some will support your comments to get the stock down, buy in and then take profits when reality re-dawns and the stock rises again. You in the meantime are sitting on the sidelines just getting it wrong.... And when the facts don't match your position, you just make it up. What a loser.

[sikhthetech] 07/1/2021 22:26

Longago, you just created your profile just to post that!! lol

I mentioned Unilever to prove my point that other companies have adapted and entered the market quickly. And also because The Ghost mentioned them implying there is a connection between seaweed, Unilever and Byot.


The fact remains, despite the biggest pandemic to hit the world, Byot's H1-2021 global consumer sales were only £1m and global professional were only £5.66m..
Sales and the need for non-alcohol sanitiser has been ramped on the BBs over the past year. Yet the results haven't backed them up, hence why posters on here kept quiet when H1 results were announced.

We are now in the final Qtr for 2021, vaccine being rolled out and demand for sanitiser reducing.

Btw, you wouldn't compare a share price movement of a ftse 100 company with a company whose shares are illiquid, where a few buys/sells moves the share price



The ghost who walks7 Jan '21 - 08:30 - 7330 of 7348
Also you see Unilever here. I found the language used by management in the last update pretty interesting, wonder whether we have s9mething potentially very exciting there

[longago] 07/1/2021 22:07

STT - when a pandemic strikes it's beyond ludicrous to compare the opportunities available to a multibillion dollar hugely profitable global company like Unilever to use its immense purchasing power to buy chemicals in short supply and reallocate resources and production accordingly, to the opportunities available to a tiddler like Byotrol. In these circumstances Byotrol has performed very creditably and the market recognises this: in the year to 7 January 2021, Unilever shares rose from 4287 to 4447 (+3.7%) while those of Byotrol rose from 1.57 to 7.03 (+347%). By the way, here's something else that might cheer you up - you may not have spotted that two of Byotrol's directors have previously had long successful careers as senior Unilever executives!

[sikhthetech] 07/1/2021 20:25

Milesy,
"Mr Market is clearly happy "


Strange because that's not the graph and share price history shows.

From mid-Feb - the share price rose on the expectation that Byot will perform well and seize the huge opportunity presented to them on a plate.

March to summer - monthly TU stating record sales, £1m++ per month run rate and selling as much as they can make.

24/25 Aug - peaked, Newlands reduced to below 3% - The Newlands increased to 3.95% in July and then reduced back down below 3% a month later. Looks like they weren't happy


End Sept - dropped back from around 8.5p after company didn't release audit accounts on time, again!!

13th Oct - drifted back from 7.5p to 5.8p after fy2020 audit results finally published.

7th Dec - interims 6.2p to 7.1p traded with that range and still is.





Now just jam tomorrow. It's nice to have an investment decision proven right so conclusively BY EVENTS. READ THE COMPANY NEWSFLOW.

It's all there in black and white

[1gw] 07/1/2021 19:52

And out of stock on the single-bottle pack, but 2-pack still in stock.

[milesy] 07/1/2021 17:30

Mr Market is clearly happy with both today's and tomorrow's jam judging by the share price appreciation over the last 12 months.

[sikhthetech] 07/1/2021 16:00

1gw
"its turnover actually decreased from 1H19 to 1H20"

Thank you for agreeing at last. I would expect turnover to decrease (as shown by the sales) at sanitiser suppliers as covid vaccines are rolled out and demand for sanitiser decreases.
Also as more companies adapt and enter the market then sales would decrease from the period when there was record demand during the early stages of the pandemic.

Can you post recent monthly TUs where the company states record sales, £1m/month sales etc, as they did during the initial months of Pandemic????

Like I said, if there's demand, other companies/organisations will adapt and enter the market.


VIRUSEND - UK govn website produced by the army. Given Brexit, people are more likely to buy a product co-developed by the army, promoted by govn and being tested in hospitals.

Available to the public. Given Brexit and people wanting to buy British, what better than support the British Army.


"A novel disinfectant spray developed by the Army that can eliminate 99.99% of the Covid-19 virus will now be made available to the public and used by military personnel on the frontline as they support the battle against the virus.

Virusend will complement the existing range of protective products available currently in the UK that help keep people safe, with bottles available for the public to purchase online and in stores, with talks ongoing to up-scale the commercial rollout of the product."

[1gw] 07/1/2021 15:42

Totally plc by the way doesn't have any jam at all today on a TTM basis. That's because it has made a loss over the last 12 months (2HFY20 + 1HFY21). It also made a loss in FY20 and in FY19, despite what you tell people over on the TLY thread.