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BPW Blue Planet

29.50
0.00 (0.00%)
Last Updated: 00:00:00
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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Blue Planet LSE:BPW London Ordinary Share GB0001524171 ORD 50P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 29.50 0.00 00:00:00
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
  -
Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
- O 0 29.50 GBX

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Posted at 28/10/2008 09:45 by romi2nikki1
The discount as widened dramatically in the past few days, even by historical patterns. I m rather with erstwhiles opinion re NAV.

I have in the past twice emailed BP on links to URSA share price, and got no response. Interesting that Murray very robust about Ursa in the Aug letter. nothing in the Sept letter and a switch to India.
Posted at 18/9/2008 17:38 by pawsnjaws
Hi

I saw Mr your Mr Murray interviewd yesterday on Bloomberg, this is the first time I have been intersted in BPW and it was purely because he talks common sense in a financial world going mad....
The interview re emphasised the points made all along by BP and that they would NOT be investing in any Financial Institutions with the exception of India/Russia for the forseeable future. With my limited knowledge I wondered about investing in a BP fund, but am disappointed at how little information there is.
This thread died in July - is this because you all left or just busy elsewhere.
Posted at 24/7/2008 15:05 by isa23
Hi Carterit, since I did the switch, BLP is up %12 while bpw is down about 10%, so the trading on the basis of discount does make sense after all
Posted at 22/7/2008 10:21 by carterit
I know.Thought about doing the same,but BPW seems to perform the best,and at one stage early last year was at a premium to NAV of about 15%.BPW seems less liquid than BLP,and seems to get the bigger increases - so i'll stick with it and see how we go.
Posted at 21/7/2008 17:36 by carterit
The article referred to his warning in April 2007 that we were heading for the worst banking crisis in decades led by a tsunami of bad debts he forecast for US Banks.

It laos mentioned he positioned his owns funds defensively,moved a significant portion to cash and avoided any banks with sub prime exposure - and thought that they would be able to weather the storm - but they didn't.They still got clobbered.

He has started moving back into the market since June.

He has once again been tempted to invest in UK high st banks (Barclays being one).

Banks are no longer lending at crazy interest rates and low valuations.

Bad debts are rising and could continue for to rise for 18 mths.

The freeze on inter bank lending rates will have unfrozen in 6 to 9 months,and there'll be a lot more liquidity in the market by then and as "money markets unlock,credit will increase and interest rates will fall relative to base rates"..

"In essence,this is a fantastic time to be getting involved with the banks and in terms of share price,we are near the bottom.But people must understand we are not near the bottom in terms of the credit cycle"

Inflation will stem demands for loans and growth on loan books will be less vigorous.

He also slams the Fed for extending the flood of central bank money to investment banks,and reckons a fair portion of this money has ended up as speculating on metls and oil.

He reckons 80% of the recent 100% increase in price of oil is down to speculation.

Reckons bams in the west face lower growth but are oversold,and despite his optimism reckons semerging market investors may yet see a fall of upto 25% in the price of financial shares
Posted at 21/7/2008 11:02 by carterit
However,you can't deny he called it right - when he said the problems were worse than anyone could imagine (back in Mar 2007),and hopefully he is calling it right now,when he says that Banks are now oversold,and the interbank lending rate problems will be over and ddone with in the next 6 to 9 mths.

I don't recall anybody else at that time coiming anywhere near the gloomy forecasts that he was coming up with.

That being said,his funds still suffered as much as any typical banking share ie down 60%,but he is now gearing up,and hopefully we can continue to see some decent rises (already up approx 20-25% of its lows).
Posted at 03/12/2007 13:29 by hoggetwood
Discount about 30%. Nav seems to have broken out upwards (see trustnet). Seems a good time to get back in. I'd have thought sentiment will at some stage turn, and bpw will start to be regarded as hugely oversold. Not a ramp, but a request for a comment - for example about my naivety.
Posted at 02/2/2007 23:53 by carterit
The share price of BPW didn't rise above NAV until approx 20/11/06.

Since then NAV has risen approx 10% and share price has risen approx 28%,and
yet the holdings between BLP and BPW have neve been closer in the 15 mths i've been following them both.

BLP NAV has also risen 10% during this period,but its shareprice has only risen 16% approx.
Posted at 29/1/2007 14:09 by pscambler
The NAV on the BLP shares (and I mean diluted NAV) is actually greater than that for BPW, while share price lower. IMO this is a true mismatch.

BLP is slightly more geared, but the opposite used to be the case so that's not the explanation.

Market Cap approx =. Director share holdings approx =

Spread - BPW tends to be a bit lower, but may be a function of turnover

Track Record. I think people are looking at the historic NAV and price rises w/o taking into consideration management is same and portfolio is very similar. There is also the historic link to building societies and BLP is 10 diff trusts. If that anomaly were addressed and some lip service paid to d/c reduction BLP would go up (other things being =)

For the record, I am short BPW as a hedge against a fall in my BLP warrants
Not working so far! Both will get hammered is there is a downturn esp in E Europe.
Posted at 24/10/2006 20:59 by davidbh
markth
I have a sell rule: SELL rule = sell at -15% of buy price or of price relative to index fall (sometimes not easy to decide which to apply).
Now, considering the BPW share price history of the last 4/5 yrs (i.e. it recovers ) , I shall relax my rule.
Provided that the world situation remains as it is, of course .
PS I don't understand why a SELL order not going through. I shall ask my broker.
BOL
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