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spadman: No dice is confusing adoption with a bubble. The manias in tulips, railways, dot coms signaled adoption. The tulip market in the West only got bigger, Railways expanded enormously and the internet is still only growing. Amazon share price at the height of the dot com "bubble" was just over $100, today it's $1,162. If Bitcoin becomes any sort of standard as a crypto the price will have to be anywhere between 300,000 and 1.5 million imo
mcbeanburger: "now there are more participants you would expect btc price action to resemble more widely traded markets, tops there are usually a longer process so insiders can offload, and invariably there are a number corrections on the way to the top, each one a temporary set back, conditioning buyers not to sell when it sells off, then it sells off, lets see :)" this is my expectation of the top - it will slowly roll over. yesterday's action is just the start as it was too fast and too violent to hold any length of time.
tpaulbeaumont: lots of folks posting about the crash in btc yday, biggest ever in nominal terms at roughly $2100 and no doubt in dollar volume, but in % terms btc has matured alot, it used to double and halve in a day, so the nominal movements are only news for those trading/betting per point, but the influential and entirely centralized hoard of holders who own 10,000s/100,000s still set their algos to buy, wisely punting $1m or $2m a month to pump the price, like in every other financial market now there are more participants you would expect btc price action to resemble more widely traded markets, tops there are usually a longer process so insiders can offload, and invariably there are a number corrections on the way to the top, each one a temporary set back, conditioning buyers not to sell when it sells off, then it sells off, lets see :)
tpaulbeaumont: number 1 like anyone doing actual trade in btc theyll use a fiat price and have a processor change the btc price at current exchange rates so its no more than a gimmick and pr, number 2 dubai is a corrupt tax haven sand pit in the middle of nowhere, theyll always love bitcoin or any other opaque financing instruments :)
compoundup: I think the prevailing argument is a community spat rather than a logical technical discussion. As I see it, Roger Ver and the big blockers (BU) had a reasonable stance up to the point where "consensus" endorsed SegWit. He should have given way then but chose to cause a chain split. You could say that this was to everyone's short term advantage in terms of the free Bcash tokens but IMO it was (a) his ego and (b) his alternative agenda that got in the way. Now it is becoming clearer what that agenda was. At around the time SegWit consolidates on 23 August, the mining difficulty on the BCH chain will be reset, potentially making the mining of BCH more profitable than BTC (according to respected developer Jimmy Song in the vlog post linked below). That's going to be disruptive and has a lot to do with the (relatively) stagnant BTC price and the current rise in BCH. hTTps:// (commentary starts at 2 mins in) "Big Blockers" can also be applied to those who are pushing SegWit2x, which as I have already argued is no longer needed now that the miners have accepted SegWit. We know that SegWit provides for the Lightning Network and smart contracts to the extent that BTC is going to be able to invade Ethereum territory, so why bother with SegWit2x? I am not saying SegWit is the ultimate solution to the scaling debate. I hope that we are going to go on needing to scale-up but SegWit does kick that can a long way down the road in the context of the history of Bitcoin so far. Therefore IMO both BU and SegWit2x are unnecessary distractions that have the potential to damage the brand for nobody's medium-to-long term benefit.
spadman: Diane Abbott has predicted a BTC price in five years time of errrr ummmm well £300,000 no ummm errr £80 million!!
random: hehe McB ... certainly worth having a few tucked away ... all it takes is one big player to ignite some momentum ... like with quite a few alts recently. (ripple shows exactly this pattern .... spike up on momentum ignition, retrace, flat line and boom.) That flat line after the initial momentum is best place to buy ... xvc is not quite there, but it's btc price is near support.
northern1: Also SPAD, lets see what happens when btc gets to price parity with gold again. Last time it happened was November 2013 and the powers that be smashed btc price down. Gold price today is $1236. I guess we don't have long to wait before btc makes an attempt at $1236. Hold tight!
lokesh8: 严湘531; "央行5268;定第;三方5903;付机;构不4471;为比;特币0132;易网;站提0379;托管;、交6131;等业;务。"昨天ߍ9;午,央行ࡤ4;集第三方ਞ3;付公司开ߩ0;透露出上๤8;消息。 Yan Xiang Reporting The Central Bank stipulated that third party payment organizations must not provide trusts, exchange, or other services in regards to Bitcoins. Yesterday afternoon, the Central Bank convened a meeting for third party payment companies to reveal the aforementioned information. 《第968;财经日报 299;记者独家!719;悉,继12月5日发ð67;《关于防ŏ39;比特币风Ɓ05;的通知》(979;称《通知 299;)后,;央行6152;日再;度"出击",ń22;谈10余;家第9977;方支;付公1496;相关;负责0154;,明;确要7714;其不;得给7604;特币;、莱9305;币(LTC)等的ߝ2;易网站提ߵ9;支付与清౛9;业务。 A reporter for China Business News (First Financial News?) exclusively learned that following the Dec. 5th announcement "Regarding Prevention of Criminal Bitcoin Risks Announcement", the Central Bank yesterday once again launched an attack, discussing responsible persons of approximately more than 10 third party payment companies, clearly requiring them not to provide payment or clearing services for BTC, LTC, etc. 在半010;月不到的102;间里,央"892;连出"两招"防范ૈ4;特币风险ᦁ2;而此次会෷8;所传达的౹4;神更是被ߎ1;少比特币ߏ4;内人士解෿5;为"釜底抽Ŗ18;"。 Within less than half a month, the Central Bank has announced two ways to prevent risks associated with BTC, and the spirit conveyed in this meeting was interpreted by many parties involved in BTC as the Bank taking drastic measures. 第三041;支付"三条2447;" Third party "Three lines" 一家823;型第三方903;付公司的442;会人士对412;报记者证454;,昨天上320;,10߯3;家第三方ਞ3;付公司受࠸0;央行召集ᦁ2;在北京召ঀ0;了一次闭໽6;会议。上๤8;人士在接ࡢ3;本报记者ຓ9;访时透露ᦁ2;会议由央ඡ2;支付结算ࡥ6;副司长周ດ9;黄主持,ે9;家公司都૬6;出了1~2名相0851;人士;参会2290; An attendee of the meeting from a large-scale third party payment company confirmed to this reporter that yesterday morning, more than 10 third party payment companies had received the summons from the Central Bank, and convened a closed-door meeting in Beijing. These persons revealed in interviews with this reporter that in the meeting the deputy director of the Central Bank's settlements (clearing) department, Zhou Jin Huang, presided over the meeting and that each company had one or two representatives in each of their delegations in attendance. "周司8271;在会;议开2987;时就;明确5351;出,;此次0250;议并;非是1484;集各;家公1496;讨论;关于7604;特币;的相0851;业务;是否3021;开展;,而6159;传达;央行9640;层的;态度5292;即首;先第9977;方支;付公1496;不得;给比9305;币、;莱特4065;等交;易网1449;提供;支付1644;清算;服务5307;其次;,对0110;已经;发生9994;务的;支付6426;构应;解除1512;作,;存量7454;最迟;在春3410;前完;成提9616;,不;得发9983;新的;支付9994;务;;第三5292;严格;执行12月5日830;行发布的 298;通知》。"9978;述第;三方5903;付公;司人2763;告诉;本报5760;者。; At the start of the meeting, deputy director Zhou clearly pointed out that the purpose in convening the various companies was definitely not related to whether or not business related to Bitcoins could develop, but was to convey the Central Bank's attitude, namely that first, third party payment companies must not provide payment or clearing services to BTC or LTC exchange websites; second, that all current business and cooperation with payment organizations must cease, with all holdings withdrawn before the beginning of the Spring Festival at the latest, with no new business to be initiated; and third, to stress strict implementation and enforcement of the Central Bank's Dec. 5th announcement. Third party payment company delegations in attendance so informed this reporter. 另据412;报记者拿040;的第三方903;付公司一301;参会人员152;记录的会#758;纪要,此425;会议,除#268;定不允许659;内第三方903;付机构从107;与比特币456;关的业务806;,央行也250;在会后研350;针对在境869;接入比特065;相关业务340;境外支付426;构的相关#268;定。 In another related development, this reporter obtained access to the meeting minutes from an attendee. In the meeting, in addition to prohibiting third party payment organizations from engaging in activities related to Bitcoins within Chinese borders, the Central Bank will begin looking into regulations for governing foreign organizations engaged in Bitcoin-related activities within China. 周金(644;在传达相851;精神后,508;家支付公496;均作出了558;严格执行978;述三条要714;的表态。294;值得注意340;是,全球368;活跃的交131;网站之一BTCC(比特4065;中国;)以及比特०5;、莱特币ߝ2;易网站OKCOIN已经将532;三方支付426;构从原先512;作的财付$890;换成了另968;家第三方903;付公司,516;时,有用143;反映,两478;网站目前482;能用财付$890;提现,但981;能通过其805;值。 Upon Zhou Jin Huang's conveyance of the Bank's position, the representatives from the third party payment companies unanimously declared that they would strictly enforce the aforementioned three requirements. Worthy of note, however, was that the most active exchange globally, BTC China, as well as the BTC/LTC exchange Okcoin had already joined with the third party payment company that they had been cooperating with from the beginning, Tenpay, to become a single third party payment company. Additionally, as users have responded, the two companies' websites currently only allow withdrawals through Tenpay, with Tenpay deposits disabled. "支付3453;一直;都没6377;和任;何比9305;币交;易网1449;有过;商业1512;作,;"支付宝相ࠥ1;人士在接ࡢ3;本报记者ຓ9;访时表示ᦁ2;"如果有投ũ64;者发现充Í40;渠道为支É84;宝,则需Š01;警惕对方ą59;否为个人ũ34;户,如果Ĵ30;实是个人ũ34;户,请投ũ64;者一定要Ĭ41;意风险。" "Alipay has not to this point engaged in any commercial partnerships with Bitcoin exchanges," a person related to Alipay told this reporter in an interview; "If there are investors who discover deposit channels for Alipay, they need to be vigilant as to whether or not it is for a personal account, and if so, these investors must be aware of the risk involved." 有比305;币业内人763;认为,从152;日央行会#758;的内容来475;,央行对110;比特币可!021;造成的风&505;防范力度$739;大,但他063;同时表示986;不解,因026;此举或许250;令原本在 447;上公开透126;的比特币132;易平台转227;至地下,417;管难度更250;随之上升 290; Bitcoin industry insiders believe that since the exposure of the content of yesterday's Central Bank meeting, it is clear that the Bank is taking relatively large risk prevention steps for Bitcoins, but simultaneously also showing incomplete comprehension, because these measures could force the previously open and transparent BTC exchange platforms to transfer their activities underground, increasing supervisory and regulatory difficulty. 比特065;在中国未469;堪忧? Is the future of BTC in China worrying? "《通0693;》发;出来0043;后,;我们3601;在担;心第9977;方支;付这0010;事情;会不0250;就做;不了0102;,没;想到9968;语成;谶了2290;"一फ8;比特币交ਵ1;网站负责ߟ4;在听到上๤8;消息后对ੑ2;报记者说Ӎ0; "After the announcement, we worried that the third party payment companies just wouldn't be able to cope, and we hadn't anticipated that the predictions would come true." - A person responsible for a BTC exchange website told this reporter upon hearing the aforementioned news. 与《$890;知》发出518;绝大部分994;内人士所#748;为的"口径6739;为宽;松",甚至"İ17;管的一次Ò19;新"不同,492;次央行会#758;的精神明174;给比特币"892;业造成了968;定的打击 290;不少业内154;士都表示A292;比特币在013;国未来的457;展形势堪551;,将选择981;同程度的"0986;逃"ᦁ2;或转移至ࣙ9;外交易平ࡤ8;进行比特०5;交易。 Following the announcement, the majority of industry insiders have different beliefs with the Central Bank regarding the two statements "Many people have different opinions" and "The supervisors have a new way to do it" [I'm not sure about this translation, the Chinese is hard]. The spirit of this Central Bank meeting clearly attacked the BTC industry. Many industry insiders expressed that Bitcoin's development situation in China is worrying, and will be exiting at varying degrees, or transferring to a foreign exchange platform to execute BTC trades. 此前A292;央行的《$890;知》曾明830;要求现阶573;各金融机500;和支付机500;不得开展982;比特币相851;的业务,981;得以比特065;为产品或381;务定价,981;得买卖或316;为中央对163;买卖比特065;,不得承445;与比特币456;关的保险994;务或将比305;币纳入保&505;责任范围561;。《通知 299;发出后,"429;然比特币066;场有所异160;,出现短102;间的下跌A292;但很快即910;复"失;地"。 Before this, Central Bank announcements had once clearly required financial institutions and payment organizations not to develop BTC-related business; to set fixed BTC prices for products or services; to transact or engage in competitiveness with BTC; to underwrite BTC-related insurance business or bring BTC into the scope of liability of insurance; etc. After the announcement, although there was movement on the BTC market, a short-term drop appeared. The "lost ground" was recovered in short order, though. 而昨085;的会议会545;比特币价684;造成多大433;响还不得 780;知,但截!267;本报记者457;稿,BTCC上比特币340;价格已经174;昨日最高340;5335元979;跌至4600元,下跌133;度为15%。 The effect of yesterday's meeting on the BTC price is still not fully known, but as of the time of the publishing of this article, the price of BTC on BTC China has already fallen from yesterday's high of 5335 Yuan to 4600 Yuan, losing 15%. (本报5760;者夏;心愉3545;此文;亦有6129;献)
aaainvestment: Shelton Petroleum's released their quarterly report last Friday and reveue was a massive 0 SEK for the period Jan-Mar 2011. They also comment that their Asset value was effected by the change in the BTC share price and thats about all they say about the relationship. Sounds like they ae being messed about by the Ukrainian authorities who asked them to stop production to undertake a review and haven't allowed them to restart; that might explain why the joint deals that where talked about when BTC entered into a relationship with them have not materialised yet. I don't know if the timing of the release is signigicant to BTC, probably not, unless BTC comment on lack of Shelton/joint progess. Shelton's reporting/PR is much better than BTC and a summary quarterly report/update to reaasure investors would be beneficial whilst they operate in a similar high risk region - it's the one thing that really doesn't impress me at all, investors need to know whats going on. Results imminent now though so we'll forget it for a while, But as some investors say they are going to the AGM, maybe someone should raise the issue, it is a constructive point.
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