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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Antofagasta Plc LSE:ANTO London Ordinary Share GB0000456144 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -16.00 -1.51% 1,041.00 1,045.50 1,047.00 1,067.00 1,042.00 1,060.00 1,481,316 16:35:10
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Mining 3,743.4 1,017.3 38.4 26.1 10,263

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26/2/2017
12:56
Hi SBK, Thanks, though I'm a bit surprised you hedged your ANTO short at 868. It may of course go higher again later, but right now I don't see an overwhelming case for it massively so. Not unless copper breaks out. But frankly, I think we're at a point where no-one can be too sure of what's next, nor how much of Trump's agenda is priced in. So it could work out well for you. Naturally, any blame for my trades lies squarely with me, future positions included. I'd already considered a 5th ANTO short, but then UKX, where I've still 3 shorts, continues to defy all Brexit challenges, fears, uncertainties, etc. Despite weaker Sterling & commodity spikes, it's still quite high. Those shorts need settling. Who knows when? On iii's UKX BB we have Barcap calling 6500 soon. But most other TA traders are seeing 7500 or even 8000 first. Like I say, no-one really knows & I still plan to take available gains at sub-7100. Then I might consider adding a position to ANTO. However, I'd also like to close a couple of BARC shorts first, opened at 190+ & 232+, even if for break-even. Fact is, I'm holding considerable paper losses with leverage largely for reasons mentioned to Jalopeno, 02.24 yesterday morning. Quote: "What's commonly observable with SBs is that manifold temptations of leverage render many traders vulnerable to taking on more risky trades. For eg. shorting miners, oilies, indices, etc. Not least as those trades also offer better prospects of seeing bigger profits, far sooner. Some such risks wouldn't even be possible for retail traders limited to FTSE stocks. I think taking on those more risky trades, then over-staking from poor discipline, is what finds out most spread-bettors. If not immediately, then almost certainly eventually." Thus, following my own warnings to others, I really don't want to be adding SBs, risking further damage & more funding. Either I'm right & my positions will come back to me shortly, or I may need to pay a heavy price, including closing my SB account & sticking with what I know is profitable for me. That'll also free up time for other obligations, such as have been demanded of me recently. - All the best!
jackdawsson
26/2/2017
12:13
Thanks Jack for keeping my legend alive, Last week was something wild. Especially Thursday, when I had to deal with two market position crises at the same time, re: ANTO and Barc. I survived nicely due to some pretty nifty trading if I do say so myself. Take Barc: it rose strongly in the early session, sitting comfortably above 240. Then at precisely 10am the market decided Barc was a bad thing and the share price plummeted, just as if some master criminal had flipped a switch! I think there are some good range trading opportunities with this for a while between, say, 214 - 237. Banks may get more upside pull when the Republicans come out with their tax & regs policies. This might begin on Tuesday when Trump gives his "State of the Union" speech. The market may swallow the B/S? Down the line I reckon Trump won't last. Like Nixon he'll fail to win against the Press, the FBI and CIA. They will, with increased vigour now, keep opening cupboards until they find an entire ossuary, no doubt. ANTO: I'm still well underwater there - due to an overnight protective long at 868. Logical at the time but wisdom counts for nought with ANTO, as you know. So I'm kind of tied between two horses at the moment which are pulling in opposite directions. But I would really like it to head north at the moment. This situation is mostly the fault of me getting back into this share because of Damps' encouragement. One consequence of my not being able to post on iii is that peeps are losing money. Take soi on Friday, he was insanely adding ANTO longs at 829, 821, 819, etc., all the way down (joined by Rhino). If I had access to the ANTO board I could have told them it was heading for sub £8. Plain as a pikestaff to me at the time. I was actually shouting at my screen... but of course they would have taken no heed. Rhino is a pachyderm and soi has gone mad. He now thinks that he is a General in Ancient China. More like Admiral Arima, methinks? Soi will get to a good place with ANTO in the end, naturally. But he sure likes to take the scenic route! As he promised, I'm sure my 736 short will come good, despite zooming up to £9 first! With regard to your ANTO position I sincerely think that it time for you to add a short above £8. It is almost certain to improve your overall position in time. Probably as soon as the BHP strike ends. I do realize that it is usually folly to take the advice of others but in the event of things going wrong one has the benefit of being able to blame the adviser. After all, who else is there to point the finger at? IMHO, Regards, SBK
sir buns up knealing
25/2/2017
16:06
And this week's winning Barc COMP entry is.... 231.25. TIA. IMHO, SBK (Regarding the latest vulture fake news: I am still a member of iii in that I have an account and can sign in. Just not allowed to speak).
sir buns up knealing
21/2/2017
21:56
Jack, See all of the above. Your pertinent quote: "But for now, market behaviour in USA suggests no-one considers anything much bar, "buy, buy & buy!". As evidenced by successive record highs. There seems no end to it, so strong is the euphoria. Quite irrational at times!" IMO, its all irrational. I was there in 1999 (tech partying like it was 1999!). This is bubble time again. I studiously stay one tight step short on everything just to be ready when the cards collapse. IMHO, SBK
sir buns up knealing
21/2/2017
20:00
Hi Jack, Nobody could ever accuse me of "just saying the right things to garner favour". LOL! While I was struggling with ANTO all day I kept an eye on soi's WTI battle. Of course nobody wants to see a colleague lose money but I must admit to some twinges of schadenfreude as the master was having a hard time this morning, being spit roasted over an oil-fired barbecue. Why should "the immortals" have it so easy when us lesser beings have to grub about for crumbs? Talking of food, soi has "Kit-Kat" snack breaks. This got me thinking: surely chocolate just melts before you can eat it in the sultry tropics? At this point I glanced at my sleeping Tabby, Kitty Cat...no he wouldn't would he, even though he's in omnivorous Thailand?! Anyway, tomorrow is another day at the SB battlefront. Barc and Anto in my sights. Regards, SBK
sir buns up knealing
21/2/2017
10:44
SBK, Despite my considerable ANTO travails & some FTSE shorts underwater (but not critically so), ditto SB longs in VOD & shorts in BARC, all my recent buys via real shares again in profit. Buys of BT at 313+, VOD 191+ & 199+. There seems an obvious message for me in that: perhaps I, & all of us, should consider focusing only on what's verifiably profitable in this game? Re iii rankings: Eadwig made a good comment on that a few days ago & why they're mostly meaningless, with most top-ranked posters being boosted by being very active on the most popular AIM BBs & just saying the right things to garner favour. Pft! - Regards.
jackdawsson
20/2/2017
21:47
Scrawling on the cell wall... It was a delight to see soi digging and filling in WTI holes today. Mind you, he had to work a long overtime shift, after the 4:30 bell to complete the job. He still has a few ANTO short voids to backfill and I'm hoping that happens soon. I just missed going long on the 838 gap fill this morning, much to my self-annoyance. But that is the thing to remember with ANTO: it is very gap loyal. To a point or two, indeed. My missing out on the upward ride was partly due to me messing about with BARC at the time. Regarding which, the last time I looked the COMP I was winning this week and now only 5 points behind his nibs. I note that I am also still the 76th most popular poster on iii, even without being there! My next ANTO move will be in response to a gap. Another bus will be coming down the road soon. IMHO, SBK
sir buns up knealing
19/2/2017
18:01
SBK, Saw it. Trump’s live speeches & press conferences are increasingly becoming the stuff of unintended comedy. But as you say, there’s potential for serious mayhem as well. I’ve always been a compassionate person, as misplaced as it sometimes is. I genuinely despair for some members of the human race, even those that I couldn’t disagree more with. But there's also the problem of who'd most likely replace Trump if that situation arises. As mentioned before, Mike Pence seems as toxic, if not more so: hxxp://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/a-dozen-reasons-why-mike-pence-is-just-as-bad-as-donald-trump/ Though the topic is complex, I can only agree that aspects of modern civilization seem to have regressed by decades in key aspects. A lot of social progress being undone. In the USA not least, but here too. We also can't ignore extreme elements in the ME & Africa, et al. The danger ahead is that, as objectivity gets lost, those more extreme elements on ALL sides will feed off each other to get stronger still. That scenario not so far-fetched. It all bodes for a very difficult 4 years ahead of us, but probably longer. - Regards.
jackdawsson
19/2/2017
13:54
Hi SBK, I agree re ANTO, but one also needs a sizeable account to trade it that way, or else risk stop losses often. An alternative road here is: stay well funded & sit tight, without risking more damage. After trending above 800, notwithstanding recent intraday high of 905, which direction next, sub-800, or 900+? Much depends on copper of course. Despite successive falls, no sure thing either way. But no surprise if we see much lower soon as some of Trump's "pie in the sky" (or should that be, lie in the sky) promises unravel. I've always said similar re Trump: 2 years max. He seems seriously out of his depth on anything demanding deeper consideration. Take his flippant view on Israel, to quote: "Asked what he thought about a two-state solution on Wednesday, Trump said: “I’m looking at two-state and one-state and I like the one that both parties like. I’m very happy with the one that both parties like,” he said." End quote. Key problem for decades behind the bloody conflict in Israel is that there is NO obvious solution that both parties agree on. I think even the average dude realizes that by now. Give it time &, IMO, even Trump supporters will tire of the "fake news", "America first', mantra. He's got away with simplistic cliches in the boardroom of Trump Tower for years. But POTUS demands something far greater & he's patently struggling. Re VU's "Venus in Furs". FWIW, whilst appreciating what the song's about, I've always liked it from another angle: musically, not least. But also as flowing from a surfeit of frivolous pleasure, then finding disillusionment & growing weariness with life, which fundamentally is mostly meaningless anyway. I still miss waiting for Lou's new songs & I always will. Ditto Leonard Cohen as time passes. Re iii: now if, like you, I was on some sad individual's hit-list, presumably that VU link may even have resulted in a possible ban. ;o) After all, going by iii's standards, it's probably deemed far worse than examples like Holocaust-denial. - Good job I mostly keep away from LLOY's & BP's BBs. Regards & GL.
jackdawsson
18/2/2017
23:28
SBK, Thanks & you're welcome. Probably wise to give it a while longer before returning. Few could disagree with you about Dylan's "Blood on the tracks". Easily one of the finest LPs ever. Re copper: indeed, some sources remain very bullish. No surprise considering it's enjoyed its best rally for 5 years. The only slight comfort I take is that the past few days have seen copper closing lower. However, it's still a relatively healthy $2.70+. We really want it to fall back below $2.60 with volume, a level it's bounced off a few times recently, to see some major dips with associated miners. Maybe after the copper strikes end? - Regards.
jackdawsson
18/2/2017
22:26
Ta Jack, Thanks for keeping me afloat. No worries medium term, I will be back. Just have to let the dust settle a bit. Cheers, IMHO. SBK
sir buns up knealing
18/2/2017
19:19
Hi Jack, That low gap will surely get filled but it may take a bit of time yet. As Eadwig has been pointing out there is a lot of bullish talk in the Cu market re: firm demand and hiccups to supply. Just been listening to that great, timeless assemblage of songs, Dylan's "Blood on the tracks". How very pertinent are the lyrics of "Idiot wind" at his time? BTW I would not be allowed to quote that song title on iii. Unacceptable language. Weird world. Barc comp - grateful if you or some other kind person could put me down for 236.75 or nearest. TIA, Regards, IMHO, SBK
sir buns up knealing
18/2/2017
15:36
SBK, Yep, good call. There's also a gap at circa 762 as next open was 799 on 23/01. That seems very fillable. However, a bigger gap currently of interest to me is the one between my ears for ever shorting this wretched stock. Whether that particular gap will ever be fillable seems decidedly less certain. - Regards.
jackdawsson
17/2/2017
21:51
Well, I was right about the 830 gap, eh? I'm only 80 or so shorting points adrift now. Was 150 at one point. God I'm so good! IMHO, SBK P.S. ANTO workers deserve better! They should strike now. I'll wave a placard outside the Chilean Embassy in support of them, I swear.
sir buns up knealing
16/2/2017
18:06
Congrats to soi for his wti run today. This is the way to celebtrate IMO. hxxp://richardwiseman.wordpress.com/2014/04/15/woman-drinks-huge-glass-of-wine/ BTW my success with women owes a lot to my plying them with drink. IMHO, SBK
sir buns up knealing
16/2/2017
11:36
It s good that the Escondida union has agreed to Government mediation: http://www.mining.com/striking-workers-at-bhps-escondida-mine-accept-govt-mediation/ However BHP have posponed the talks indefinitely. I guess they are doing a calculation regarding lost production v trying to buoy the copper price? Anyway, I am expecting the 830 gap to be filled soonish. Might go long then. I am also expecting that nobber Eadwig to arrive here in the refugee camp to gloat. I'm pretty sure that seeking to improve his Barc COMP chamces, he wrote to the iii Neighbour Watch something like this: "Dear Sir/ Madam, I would like to congratulate the entire iii Neighbourhood Watch team for dispatching Sir Buns-up Knealing. This vile monster has long been a sore on the backside of your noble website. Without his participation things can only get better and we can all go forward together to the sunlit uplands. Congratulations and well done team! Yours sincerely, Eadwig" IMHO, SBK
sir buns up knealing
15/2/2017
21:51
On my Fib chart 271 was max resistance. Since the uplift from the BLT strike it appears to have become a support level. But being sapped a bit now. Factors sending it back north: stronger dollar good for ANTO, hardening of BLT strike, Trump infrastructure promise boost. Greed. Factors sending it back south: profit taking, higher interest rates, end to BLT strike, US Govt chaos. Fear. And several other each-way issues, including copper inventories, surprisingly. In sum, I would not be amazed at another run up higher but I think the decay has set in. And when that does the HFT trading will move the share price sharply south. Two gaps down have just about been covered. The third to 830 is inevitable, over time. At this point and only then would I contra my shorts with longs. Scared off my previous plan by Damps' reminding me of the Martingale! I was out this morning and could not play. Caught up with iii posts late. Good discussion on Spreadbetting on Barc. Interested to note soi's quick thinking on the wti spike and shorts rapidly entered. Quick shorting of spikes (which have no apparent cause) may be a good tactic? I Miss being on iii and conversing with my favourite posters in that community, such as GC Trader, Johnycash, Muchado, lolabe and Les Berkseley. But I'm sure they are happy anyway, despite my absence. IMHO, SBK
sir buns up knealing
14/2/2017
22:43
Hi SBK, Thanks! I fully intend to stick with it, for now. As mentioned on iii, even if it requires more temporary funding, so be it. ANTO's rapid share price spikes have left plenty of gaps below. In time, many will be filled. Even though right now nearly everything seems against us. Meantime my trading focus lies elsewhere. I've taken over 420 pts on UKX shorts + longs since 6th Jan & I still have a few open positions there. Agree re Bannon, & no less Trump & others in current US administration. Sadly, even collective stupidity if given too much power can still wreak plenty of havoc before it's reined in. Re BLT mine riots: wouldn't surprise me if vested interests were inflaming matters. Copper seeing its best rally for 5 years. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-13/shutdowns-at-biggest-mines-extend-copper-s-best-rally-in-5-years Regards & GL. - Catch you later.
jackdawsson
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