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Posted at 29/8/2018 12:40 by last of the mohicans
Horneblower

Trading halts on the ASX are not like trading halts here (they are usually either for capital raises or ahead of the release of price sensitive news)

It came out of the trading halt using the feeble excuse of closing the Zenvia deal in Brazil.

The material licencing agreement with a tier-1 telco is still in the works, yep 21 business days and counting.

People are starting to cotton on to that fact.

As for the tier-1 telco, there are only 30 of them (less when you take-out the large single country ones because this deal is with a multinational Telco).

Names in the frame, I's say we're looking at Vodafone, Telefonica, Movistar or MTN.

Watch this space ………;……̷0;……..

LOTM
Posted at 04/7/2018 10:35 by last of the mohicans
From CharmDate find/email me at LOTM-13@hotmail.com

Lastofthemohicans-13















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Hi Hornblower :)

You might want to have a listen to the 28th June Webinar.



or directly on

It's true that the share price has yet to reflect what's happening on the ground, but that will change pretty soon, as the land grab gains further momentum.

Installation smartphone table

Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5 Column 6 Column 7
Date Quarter Gain Q to Q % Month Gain M to M %
Aug n/a n/a n/a 7.45M n/a n/a
Sept 20.10M n/a n/a 20.10M 12.65M 170%
Oct n/a n/a n/a 21.63M 1.53M 7.6%
Nov n/a n/a n/a 23.40M 1.77M 8.18%
Dec 25.365M 5.265M 26.19% 25.35M 1.965M 8.4%
Jan n/a n/a n/a 27.36M 2.05M 7.9%
Feb n/a n/a n/a 29.505M 2.135M 7.8%
Mar 18 31.777M 6.41M 25.28% 31.777M 2.272M 7.7%
Apr n/a n/a n/a 34.16M 2.383M 7.5%
May EST n/a n/a n/a 36.83M 2.67M 7.70%
Jun EST 39.72M 7.94M 25.00% 39.72M 2.8M 7.61%
Jul 42.9M 3.179M 8.03%
Aug 46.2M 3.30M 7.69%
Sept 18 49.65M 9.93M 25.00% 49.65M 3.451M 7.47%
Dec 18 62.06M 12.41M 25.00% n/a n/a n/a

Please note all of the numbers in bold are either from the November presentation or from ASX announcements since then & are official Syntonic numbers.

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So given we're now into July, for the company to have achieved its target of 25% quarter on quarter growth in the June quarter, we should now be installed on approximately 40 Million phones & growing by " 100,000 each & every day.

How much revenue that is now generating is anyone's guess.

LOTM
Posted at 15/2/2018 23:53 by last of the mohicans
horneblower,

Sorry not looked at ADVFN in a while, probably because SYT has been much slower at getting the growth it needs than should have been the case. Too many unpaid trials etc

Looks like they've sorted out the Tata agreement (ie learned lessons from the old one that wasn't bringing in any $$$)





I'm expecting to see a few things appear at Barcelona latter this month.........


Hopefully it will now start to perform as a very good investment, given the installed smartphone base is growing at 2M+ handsets a month now.

LOTM
Posted at 25/9/2017 14:09 by gary1966
Well you two made me look at the chart and the RSI is elevated, and appears to be rolling over, and at the levels it is at, historically, the share has sold off. As a consequence I sold my 440K holding at the princely sum of A$0.033 for a £5K loss. Will keep an eye on them as if the chart plays out the way it normally does then A$0.022-24 is entirely possible. Happy to cut and run on this one as monetization seems slow even though I really like the idea behind the tech.

HB, As an aside have you taken a look at HZM? Not too dissimilar to ARS but probably a little closer to production. Management seem on the ball and things progressing well.

ATB

Gary
Posted at 21/9/2017 13:02 by gary1966
LOTM,

Are you still here or moved on?

Nice to see a firmer price of late.
Posted at 22/3/2017 06:46 by griff2711
Who cares, take advantage. Only time you should worry about the share price is when you come to actually sell. Important to focus on the story not the share price, especially when the story becomes even more compelling. We are aligned and integrated into the second biggest carrier in the world (amongst others) and reading between the lines form a key part of their OTT drive. If carrier's actions of buying major content providers is any indication of the scale of their intent then Syntonic will be making some serious revenue in the both short term & long term. The webinar hinted at our involvement within the Exponent service and I'm sure our SDK will be utilized on the newly constructed Fios app. Again these non exclusive licensing agreements are billion dollar opportunities in their own right. All we need is Tata to kick off their SDX and we'll be on our revenue growth path. That will provide revenues for the coming quarters which in turn will bring new investors to the table, hopefully institutional investors at that.
Posted at 22/3/2017 06:09 by yes yes
Griff-and that's the problem,by the time they get some half decent revenues where will the share price be sitting?
Posted at 21/3/2017 17:28 by griff2711
Yeah holding near 2 million now. Been adding as and when funds allow. All positive for me, just need to realize revenues to see the share price move. Massive deals for a small co. Like ours. From the communications I've had from the company it seems Freeway will be concentrated towards Latin America with Tata white label leveraging both its marketing budget and carrier relationships in the SE Asia and India. Quite rightly why use our valuable resources and cash trying to compete with a like for like product when Tata is already in a position to deliver us a substantial revenue share. I expect to see a transition of offers onto their white label version. With regards to our OTT service, which will be our main driver and revenue stream in the future, I've been wondering whether our CSP is being utilized in through either Exponent or Fios both divisions of Verizon. I understand Fios is bringing out a new interface in the near future so that in combination with our latest newsletter makes me think our platform will have some involvement there. Webinar tomorrow :)
Posted at 01/11/2016 20:02 by last of the mohicans
Horneblower

2 very recent posts from HC from other posters following on from me posting my AT&T theory. Maybe they will help explain things for you in a completely different way?

LOTM

From Syzygy

glad to have you with us and especially asking about the CSP, as underneath it all - pun intended - that is what Syntonic is all about and what drives Freeway and Dataflex, as well as other services they have, like the On-Ramp Education Service. We should also include that the CSP will also be the operating system for any white label version of Freeway (or Dataflex if that was to occur).

The Connected Service Platform is at the heart of Syntonic's technology. Even though we don't have specs for it - it is a patented program - we have basic descriptions of what it achieves. I'll give my briefest run-down and throw in a few Syt quotes so as to stick to script.

Syntonic’s platform is in-network, cloud managed, OS, and device independent. The in-network is a borrowed term from the US health care industry referring to treatments that you have that are covered by your health insurance. With Syntonic then, it relates to users of the CSP keeping their costs down by staying within CSP's ecosystem, as opposed to other operating systems where only partial services are provided for your application and you would require an external service to complete your engagement. In short, with the CSP, content providers and other users just need to bring their content and Syt looks after the rest. The CSP is cloud based, which means that it is always within reach - can be connected to from anywhere - which is important for the analytics component. Any type of connected mobile device can use the CSP, so it is not device dependent.

So what does it do? Firstly, it brings content to users through either Freeway, Dataflex, On-Ramp, a white label of these like Tata's soon to be released, or through a custom service like DirectTV and Verizon's OTT (and hopefully many more).

What is special about this? I'll use my own made-up examples as they demonstrate better rather than GG's cryptic, engineer-minded marketing spin.

Lets start with the big one:

DirectTV. (this of course is all 'hearsay' presently, but ignore it at your trading peril!) You have a paid subscription to A&T's DirectTV for $50/month, enabling viewing of 100 channels on any device (this has never been done before). Once logged on, you are exposed to lots of content, not all you are happy to be seeing at the expense of your data. But, this is where it changes from the usual data plan. Not all the content will consume your data. Commercials for example will be free (just like on TV). But of course, with your normal TV the content providers, like a washing powder add, pays the TV station to be aired. On DirectTV, the same thing will occur, but as it is your data that is enabling you to be online (and consumed) you don't want this add consuming your data, or anything else that AT&T wish to throw at you, so the add makers for example - the content providers - pay AT&T to be aired and no data is consumed by you . DirectTV, using the CSP enables all content to be managed as far as the data is concerned, which will be an enormous part of Direct TV considering the huge amounts of data that will be provided. This is why GG constantly refers to content and not data plans. Capped data plans will become a thing of the past as the mega-data requirements of the future (read this month) will make them eventually obsolete, but it still will working in the background bringing you content, and the CSP will be managing it; all of it!

Freeway: The app freeway hosts other apps that content providers place on it, after they have contracted Syntonics SDK, which is also powered by the CSP. If you have ever built an app, you will know how to use an SDK, which will enable you to put it on whatever OS you prefer. Content publishers, application developers, mobile operators, device manufacturers, and retailers require the CSP's SDK to publish on a Syntonic product or one of the specialized platforms that they are creating with major telcos such as AT and Verizon. What is very important here is that any customers can easily utilize the SDK WITHOUT having to 're-tool' their products. This enables a very quick adaption and ready to market process, and is one of the CSP's great advantages. Another is the extensive analytics process that the CSP enables for publishers and other users such as employers on Dataflex, or school managers using On-Ramp. The analytics help you understand individual application usage patterns, that is, a content provider can learn patterns and trends in user engagement, as well as receive full raw data process quantities, locations, periods etc.

Dataflex: much of the same can be said about Dataflex backend, and the visible end is best understood by reading up from the Prospectus.

Regarding your comment, Syt is an enabler of services and these services are not limited to sponsored data. They enable service provision accoss networks by allowing a seamless integration between networks. It is true that Syntonic is about more than sponsored data when we consider the CSP, but without SD, one wonders whether the CSP would be necessary. The CSP can be utilized by any carrier, app, or for any content, but I think your reference to across networks and seemless integration between them is pointing to something else if I understand you. However, anyone can integrate with the CSP, so in that sense it is across networks, either 3G/4G/Wi-Fi

Hope this helps.

Syz.

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From Acca

Syz

We don't always agree 100% (which is goodness for mine) but with this post you have nailed the essence, the value, the uniqueness, even the "unicorn-ness" of SYT and its offerings. Where the company material reads well for anyone with a technical bent, you have nailed a lay investor's equivalent of a Hitchhikers Guide to the (SYT) Galaxy. Douglas Adams would be proud of you!

Seriously, you have gotten to the nitty gritty of what is making SYT the great investment it will become. I don't want to detract from your theme, but think I can add a little useful emphasis. Which is:

SYT's competitors have delivered their various (poor mans') equivalents of the Freeway App. NONE of them has gone to the very substantial extra investment and intellectual (patented) effort to create a CSP equivalent. We own that platform and it is gold standard.

Tata recognised the value of CSP straight out of the gates and have been methodically building their own CSP-based infrastructure to service their breadth of-downstream telco partners/customers. And because Tata recognises the value CSP brings them, the negotiated free ride SYT has earned can be expected to generate returns we really can't begin to comprehend today. Our company is being effectively free-carried by the global leader in network inter-connectivity. Which other of your microcap investments can claim that kind of sponsorship??

On the other hand, it appears AT&T and Verizon have been slower off the mark to understand the value CSP adds. But now it seems, they really do get it ..and want it/need it yesterday. So our magnificent-but-little band of SYTers has had to pause and review the best use of their waking hours. And they have concluded that chasing (on our own terms and consuming our scarce resources) South East Asian opportunities country-by-country is not going to be as productive as jumping in with our CSP to facilitate the OTT aspirations of the Big2 in the US. (And in any case, Tata will be a surrogate across much of the globe.) How big is OTT going to be in the States? There, until very recently (months?) the broader value of the sponsored data approach (vs net neutrality) was not identified.

To conclude, it's all about the PLATFORM. And the platform for sponsored data+++, along with all the competitive, first-mover advantages it possesses, is OURS.

That's enough for now, except to acknowledge LOTM's efforts which have put the meat on the bones of the recent US re-alignment.

One last call-to-arms: if you agree Syz' post adds real value to the understanding of the investment opportunity that is SYT, please go back here:
Date: 02/11/16
Time: 01:30:25
Post #:20296793
...and award a thumbie, so that the broader HC community will get it the way we do!

That's called enlightened self-interest.
Posted at 10/8/2016 10:41 by last of the mohicans
Notes curtesy of Chad3110's wife on Hotcopper from the Q&A

Syntonic Q&A – 10 Aug 2016 (the wife’s notes)

$7M Cap Raise reduction
Reduced due to:
• Anticipated revenue from Tata which has been amplified by the new (recently announced) 50% arrangement
• Ready to move forward in SEA where there is a “hunger for sponsored data” – “sold out immediately” (achievement of early successes)
• Saw what was coming through a rich pipeline
The company has revenue to grow:
• Accruing revenue to grow over coming quarters
• Belief that the Milestones are achievable
• Short/medium term – no extra investment is being sought despite investors coming forward to offer extra investment.
• Confidence in the revenue being received and the pipeline

No Revenue Reported to Shareholders
• Syntonic cash flow numbers will be included in next 4C in accordance with ASX requirements. (NB date company became SYT was after close of last quarter)

No Revenue Projections being promulgated currently
• Opportunities are huge and the ranges of potential outcomes are large (impression only…..directors don’t want to be inaccurate by giving predictions)
• Half year and full year all will provide detailed information on revenue stream

Tata – Deal announced on 1/8/2016 (50% share)
• Original deal - Annual Subscription to be paid by Tata
• New deal – Tata wanted to lock in long term with Syntonic (
• Tata bears all operating costs – for SYT the revenue share is high with costs very low
• Freeway by Syntonic – can also be supported separately on TATA network – when/if this is the case, Syntonic don’t have to share revenue with TATA

Download numbers on Google Play Store
• Downloads do not take into account the white label downloads

Pokemon Go
• Original campaign 10000 for 1GB was to finish on 15 Aug
• Almost sold out completely (in Gary’s words….”Throttled this”)
• Currently in business discussions to extend the offer in US/Malaysia/Indonesia
• High bandwidth, augmented reality games – this is just the start
• The promotion has been very successful from a strategic perspective in getting the Syntonic name out

Carriers looking to differentiate themselves from other telcos
• A lot of interest in video from carriers (Freeway)

Scalability & Reliability of Freeway
• Freeway platform was thoroughly tested by Tata prior to the Tata deal being endorsed
• Syntonic has a Global Development & Customer Relationship team ready to support/promote the product and address any concerns (which were indicated as usual in the initial roll out stages)
• Platform stable and management seemed confident in its deployment

Addressable Audience
• Users who have a smartphone and the ability to access Freeway on their carrier’s network

Will Syntonic go direct to market or use resellers?
There are 2 versions:
• Enterprise version
• more $, better security, greater analytics available for companies
• promoted through Enterprise mobility management vendors who just bundle in Syntonic with other programmes (??? Samsung Knox ???)
• For small/medium organisations there is a SAAS system/portal that they can go through directly

Dataflex
• 10 pilots – no revenue yet – but a huge learning and promotion opportunity from these pilots
• Big commercial push starting end of this year
• In Dataflex, the employer is the sponsor of the data, hence Freeway and Dataflex are similar in the sense that:
• In Freeway companies/organisations/app developers sponsor data for a person’s leisure time (e.g. games/Expedia)
• In Dataflex an employer sponsors data for a person’s work time (e.g. Apps/VOIP/Skype etc)

Freeway
• Only app of its kind (front/back end)
• Competition seemed to pale into insignificance from the list of reasons (e.g. some required code to be altered, others didn’t have analytics etc. etc. etc.) Worth a listen for technical people but seemed like both Gary and Rahul were very confident in their product

What will the next 3 months bring?
• A lot more countries opening up - Philippines, Thailand + Tata in SEA
• Anticipate more augmented reality in USA

Aussie Office?
• Perth interim office – currently evaluating different offers from various states to establish a more permanent office

Could Syntonic consolidate with another business?
• Yes

Market Cap Justification (3c @ $60 Mill)
• As large shareholders, Gary and Rahul want a strong share price.
• When asked about the share price on the decline….stated that there is significant news flow coming
• Gary went on to discuss his time at Microsoft when the chairman (?) was asked “How to boost the share price?” his answer was simply “Do the right thing for the business and the market will respond.”
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