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FII Fii Group

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Date Time Title Posts
16/2/200914:55Great Expectations...31
17/9/200315:40The Bradstock Case6
13/8/200300:16Fii v Tad3
29/7/200315:59Second Advance Value Realisation Company Limited13
30/5/200308:54should i sell?3

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Posted at 16/2/2009 14:55 by moogee
Fii now dead. Shares delisted.
Posted at 31/7/2008 15:11 by moogee
I see that FII are still suspended. Any news anyone? How long can they be suspended for?
Posted at 25/4/2005 09:27 by moogee
Are these still listed? My understanding of the current situation is that we are waiting for an agreement of the proposal from "a few" connected with FII. When will we know?

M
Posted at 25/6/2004 14:28 by moogee
Can the last one out turn the light off!

Rumours have it that Doug Ware and the Company Sec are no longer at the company. I guess that leaves Justin Stewart and Aidan Earley holding the fort. Booted out by all accounts. I was of the opinion that they were pulling the strings all along since FII had to consider alternatives instead of the agreed pension settlement.

With the prospect of the pension folks being able to order full payment and little working capital for the footwear business as a whole; it's a matter of time before the administrators are called in.

Stick a folk in FII; it's done!

Yours peeved

M
Posted at 22/4/2004 09:12 by moogee
Laser1234

The relisting of the shares all depends on a successful fund raising for the £2.8m agreed sum for the pension trustees. The next payment for the old scheme is 1st June. If FII don't find this £2.8m before the 1st June deadline then, IMHO, kiss goodbye to FII since we are at the mercy of the pension trustees.

A pretty poor way for FII to go out after nearly a decade of struggling.
Posted at 12/2/2004 15:47 by moogee
FII pension fund is a good start :)

Ask your broker but I would guess some sort of stock tranfer form.

However, if AE and JS can raise the cash instead of a dilution then I would expect Fii share price to jump somewhat. Ditching £30m debt for only £2.8m seems like a great deal to me.

Alternatively, it could all go pear shape and we lose everything.

M
Posted at 02/2/2004 15:49 by moogee
seconduser

You could always sell your total Fii holding for 1p to either an investor or better still a Charity. This way it'll guarantee that you will sell your holding to offset your capital gains. If FII pulls through then the Charity will gain for every pence above 1p.

Just a thought. Best way to give to Charity and offset cap gains in my book.

How many are you selling if you don't mind me asking?

Eitherway, mid Feb seems to be make or break.

Moogee
Posted at 28/10/2003 14:05 by moogee
I've just had a chat with Doug. He helpfully clarified a few misconceptions I inferred from the latest statement. Once again in order of the announcement:

a) FII tried many different combinations of stepped payment in an attempt to keep the dilution effect to a minimum but the Trustees wanted the money in one up front sum. Since FII has no assets then the only way to raise the money is by a rights issue. Doug understood that investors want to keep dilutions to a minimum but this was the only option.
b) FII was told by their advisors to value the stake as nil. The Trustees also consider the Xtempus stake as worthless but had to take it for cosmetic reasons. Since FII paid £3m for the stake, the law courts may query that the stake could still have value and would criticise the Trustees for not taking the asset. So basically, I think we can write off Xtempus.
c) The 'over 2.5%' statement does mean just 2.5%. The 'over' bit is legal jargon. My mistake/confusion.
d) FII will have finished with its pension troubles once the above is completed so no comebacks from the Trustees.

Now that this latest announcement has been explained, I consider this to be a very good deal and far better than the previous £27m and rising problem!

Hope this BB finds this useful. Fingers crossed for the future.

M
Posted at 27/10/2003 11:47 by moogee
It is indeed great news that finally, the Trustees and FII have come to an agreement. The deal is already done in my eyes since non acceptance means the company folds. Taking the four points in order:

a) payment of £2.8m to the trustees. Point c implies that this will be raised by a rights issue. Assuming a 6p rights price we are taking 46m new shares. So we are looking at a 1 old share is replaced by 3 new shares. That's quite a heavy dilution in my books. Maybe it would be better to pay this off in cash by instalments wouldn't you think? As you say £2.8m is dirt cheap. I suspect that FII will now tell us that the future with all these overseas contracts is rosy. IF so then FII should make a profit and I would personally prefer to see FII pay this through earned cash than have my holding to be massively diluted. Okay, one may take up the rights issue thus negating the dilution but will you? Obviously, all this depends on what type and quality a future FII has.

b) the juicy bit and key question; how much is the Xtempus stake really worth? FII valued it at nil (okay £1). If there is nil value then why would the trustees buy it? If the stake is worth £1 now but is going to greatly appreciate and give value in the future then surely shouldn't FII retain the Xtempus stake? I would have offered FII a tenner for the Xtempus shares just in case Xtempus did pull through. This part of the deal I'm the least pleased with. However, if this stake transfer actually reduced the amount stated in (a) or (c) then it could be worth it. Basically, we don't know and probably we'll never know.

c)option to the Trustees of over 2.5% of the enlarged Company's issued capital to satisfy its obligations, hmm?!?!? How much will that affect us? At the current share price of 6.75p one would expect the option price to be peanuts and any rise above the peanut level will be taken, hence another dilution. How much of a dilution is open ended since the statement just states OVER 2.5%. How big is the obligation that FII must satisfy? If the obligation is say £27.8m minus £2.8m in (a) that leaves £25m. Assuming the Xtempus stake is nil because it is deemed that Xtempus won't come to the market thus value can't be realised of our (sorry, the Trustees) stake. So this still leaves £25m. If the share price shoots up then the dilution effect will be smaller than if we just languished along the bottom. Obviously, the share price and the taking up of the rights issue in (a) all depends on what kind of future Fii has.

d) FII still has an obligation to the FII Group Pension & Life Assurance Scheme even when this nightmare is behind us! How much is this going to cost us in regular contributions?

So, heading towards the future has a shoe company, a bright prospect? Hmm, if FII was going to make cash hand over fist even with these new orders from abroad then FII should pay the £2.8m for next years profits and protect our existing holdings. We haven't had any return of this investment for 5 years now so waiting another year isn't going to hurt as much as this dilution effect for ever in the future. So I can't see FII ever making huge profits. Also, the foowear business, granted FII has very good brands, is still a very competitive market. The action of moving the manufacturing overseas has only brought us back to a level playing field from when we lost the M&S shoe contract to overseas manufacturing companies. We can increase our market and this is where our increase in profits will come from.

If FII persist as a shoe company then I can't see an exciting future. This may be the reason why I'm not as happy as I should be.

Now that the pension fund is all but gone , the company is truly stripped down to a minimum, huge historic losses that may be used to offset future taxes on profits, very saleable footwear contracts....FII may be a very good takeover target.

This is our only hope IMHO and will aid to reduce the impact of point (c).


So, I'm pleased that this huge problem is over and thanks to Doug and others for their help in this matter and turning the company around but I await the future with some dread of massive dilution and modest profits.

M
Posted at 19/3/2003 10:47 by moogee
Yes I've been a shareholder for some time in Fii. Relatively speaking one could say that I don't have that many shares compared with others.

How long will I stick with this company is hard to say. It all depends on what Fii does in the future and whether I think the shares will be overpriced at a later date. Now there's optimism for you. Like many investors I was trapped by the long suspension. After the suspension I deemed that the share price was too low to sell since I believed the company could be turned around. I posted earlier what I thought the company should do to increase shareholder value. One suggestion was logically to move manufacturing overseas. Thankfully, Doug Ware is doing a good job in turning the company around to which I am grateful. I believe now is a good time to buy even under the shadow of the pension fund deficit. In view the Bradstock ruling I believe the pension fund deficit can be easily sorted out. It is in the Company's, shareholders and pension trustee's best interests to resolve this. Once this is done I would expect a re-rating of the shares. A re-rating is already due based on the bull points I have mentioned above. Also considering possible footwear contracts with major stores on the back of Fii's well-known established brands and we can quickly see how undervalued Fii really is.

So to answer your question of how long will I hold all depends on what Fii does from now on and is the share overvalued or not.

My style of investing however does tend to be long term in years.

How about you?

M
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