Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Yell Group LSE:YELL London Ordinary Share GB0031718066 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 1.20p 0.00p 0.00p - - - 0 05:00:10
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Media 1,609.9 -1,417.1 -51.1 - 28.58

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20/1/201611:25Get ready for the "Yellen Put"19.00
26/7/201303:43*** WARNING *** Sell Yell while you still can !75.00
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03/9/201219:33Short this dud shares to 2p285.00
25/7/201210:32Shareholders actions, I have lost my money, mms stole it. LOLLOL14.00

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warwick69: Ianio i think YELL share price and Skullduggery go hand in hand a bit like the libor rate fixing if you ask me.... I think some big players have been creaming millions of profits of smalll shareholders on this for years... Hedge funds play thing Shorts and Debt plays to manipualate dealings with the company ???
charker: warwick69 Normally a lurker on this site but I hold a few and these are my thoughts... Someone said (made up? who knows?) that when they contacted the company they said they didn't give a damn about the share price. That is revealing, if true. You only "don't care" if you have no intention of using shares in any way to raise money or you know that in the future they will get cancelled!! If you were about to do a D4E swap you would care about the share price and you would want it as high as possible unless the BOD are "in on it" and are getting looked after, afterwards. The fact they hold so little "current" shares is the main worry here. Second if you want to buy back debt you would be happy with it being low without openly condoning it. Next I think in this game with the banks, cash is king. If you buy back shares you are weakening your hand. If someone knocks on the door and says "you owe me £X" and you have the cash to give them, problem goes away. If you spend all your cash and can't convert it back you have a problem. Someone posted a while ago that we have over 300 lenders! Now to me that says that although we may owe 1 or 2 large amounts to certain banks, a certain amount of this debt is in small amounts. All of these can be paid off with cash should any of them get stroppy or we get close to breaching "their" rules. My concern and in the back of my mind is the farce that was Energis. They borrowed from a certain German bank and then their shareprice mysteriously crashed down to 3p even though they were turning over lots of cash. The bank foreclosed, cancelled all the shares, appointed their own new board. There was a real stink about it, shareholders got together, FSA looked at it, etc. End result, nothing. Bank told shareholders if they refloated in 'x' years and raised a certain amount they would get something. They floated after that period for just under that amount and shareholders got nothing. Many employees lost pensions and everything. Should have been illegal. I think the same "bank" is at work here although they don't hold ALL the cards this time. Personally I think banks "covering loans" by shorting the stock of the company is a conflict of interests. They charge a premium on the interest rate to cover risk they should not be allowed to do both. It is a great "legal" way to acquire a company for peanuts. You lend a £4b company £2b, short their stock into the ground, foreclose and get them for the £2b you lent them with no shareholders to worry about. Much cheaper than making an open offer and watching the shareprice go through the roof. I feel that the YELL BOD are playing a long game. They will not be forced into anything by the banks until they really really have too, in other words they are potentially going to break a covenant. Question is are all the lenders tied into the same rules? If YELL break a single convenant do all the lenders get to say "pay up now" or does each lender have their own rules? If they are all separate then YELL can deal with them with cash, because most are not owed a massive amount. The larger lenders are more of an issue but YELL just have to stay within the rules and I feel that the more cash they have to hand the better. I can't help but feel the banks are the enemy, they are the shorters. The fact they have not yet sold out is because they think YELL will breach a covenant and they will get the whole lot for nothing. The first sign that revenues are UP and the chance of a breach disappears, this will fly. Everyone here is gambling in a game of poker between the BOD and the BANKS, we have cash, the banks have some rules which if we break are potentially game ending. May the best hand win! Lets not forget the rules can change. Cash in hand is a good bargaining chip with people you owe money too. We stay just inside the rules, hoard a bit of cash, and buy debt back cheap when the situation allows it, in my view. Also I feel that selling the Spanish arm would have been short sighted. That division is ideal as a bridgehead into South American markets with a workforce speaking the right language and let's not forget there are some large "expanding" economies over there unlike the "mess" in Europe. The news that the Spanish head is to head up the push into South America is just the ticket. No advice intended, this is not my field, just my rambling thoughts on a share I have too many of!!!
crosswire: The Edge Richard Northedge takes on corporate finance Yellow Pages should stick to finding numbers, not names Yell Group plc's (LON:YELL) share price has fallen from 500p to 1.75p over five years. The Yellow Pages group's losses exceed £2bn in that period. Turnover is down from £2bn to £1.6bn a year. Debts are £2.7bn; the stockmarket value just £40m. Changing Yell's name may look like the only answer. But to Hibu? Sorry, hibu? This was once a major brand. Yellow Pages was founded in 1883 and a century later entertained us top quality ads such as JR Hartley seeking his fly-fishing book. "Let your fingers do the walking," was a catchy jingle. Now its adverts have gone downhill and fewer people advertise in its directories. But if the brand is sickly, killing it cannot be the answer. Shareholders are to be asked to adopt the hibu name and to apply it to all new products. "What does the brand stand for?" asks Yell's own website. "The people who help communities thrive," it answers. And what does hibu stand for? Er, nothing. The name has already been changed once, of course, by shortening Yellow Pages (or for the Spanish subsidiary, Paginas Amarillas) to Yell. Another transformation, to a meaningless name, looks desperate. Remember Royal Mail's change to Consignia, British Steel's to Corus and Price Waterhouse's one-week flirtation with 'Monday'. Or remember that flood of era banks such as egg, marble, IF and goldfish. The new hibu name will have a blue dot on the 'i' and red and green dots on the prongs of the 'u'. No yellow dots, you'll notice, so keen is Yell to disown its heritage. This is designer nonsense that is lost on the dwindling band of customers. "By using bold lower-case typography with soft edges we project a human and approachable company," explains Yell (sorry, hibu) to anyone still listening. Er, no: you project a company that ought to stop mucking about and concentrate on cutting the debt, boosting revenues and turning in a profit.
1westham: Investor relations I have long established losses investing in Yell,at one time your companies news flow helped me to commit my holdings long term. The news provided by your RNS team was of a positive stance helping to repair the dip in support for your company. 2011 you introduced an outlined business partner strategy,also a senior director purchase of non bonus related shares. whilst we as Investors appreciate the sentiment,It was In my opinion a stalling tactic to avoid a mass exodus at a time when this was the most shorted share in Europe,and your company requierd Investor support to help progress your debt renegotiations. Investors stuck by the company,Increasing holdings ect and now we feel royally shafted. I remain financially committed to my Yell share holding but have the feeling that the company has been holding back information. I believe there has been a stance where the company could benefit from a (lets say)lower share price when It would be agreed as to the repayment equation in terms of negotiated debt with lenders. These remain my views and concerns. You recently released a "clear the bad news once and for all" result day RNS. I would appreciate Yell (the companies response) in the recent downtrend in share value. Lets face it a market cap of 47 million so shortly after your string of globally recognised business partner RNS releases,director buys and massive negotiation of economical debt repayment strategies and here we are facing absolute share price destruction possibly to zero in lieu of covenant failure. Would you please comment why you believe the share price has fallen to less than 2p from 11p in recent times let alone from the (so called fair value placing) at 42p. I await your reply.
knigel: It appears the Yell share price is causing mass madness amongst shareholders lol!
spennysimmo: Not sure. I understand why they are doing a consolidation. Billions of shares in issue at a low share price creates big percentage movements and volatility on small price movements, so a consolidation is beneficial from that point of view. Psychologically, although I know it is the same, is it more realistic for a share price to go from 25p to £1.00 than from £2.50 to £10.00? In theory it should make no difference but in practice? So if Yell also did a 10 for 1 and tomorrow the share price was 40p and you held a 10th of what you hold today, what would your view(s) be?
kanunski: So is the share price low because of the shorters or are there plenty of people shorting as they don't believe in the company along with some of the iis selling out or massively reducing at least. Remember, the shorters have already sold their shares, they aren't suppressing the share price anymore. It's a total lack of big buying that is holding the share price back. Sanjeev Shah was like you 1aws. He was the biggest ramper of Yell on the planet He has since changed his mind. I bet he knows far more about Yell than you do. Your hobby is an expensive one. As for figures, why would I trust the made up figures from someone on a BB when every investment house in the city says you're wrong. The share price says you're wrong. The fact that you try so hard just tells me you desperately want and need to believe you're right. I've seen you manipulate figures before to your advantage. So why on earth would I trust your postage stamp figures. You are gambling and not investing.
1aws: Bear in mind that at the end of Q4 last year, before new covenant deals and new SR design, Yell's EV:EBITDA ratio was 5.68 which resulted in an share price of 7p. Yell is in a much stronger position today with new covenants that will cover it until April 2014, much lower debt etc. You would think that it should have at least the same EV:EBITDA ratio as last year if not better. Applying that ratio Yell share share price should be somewhere between 13 and 16p depending on EBITDA expected at the end of March. For much of the last year Yell's EV:EBITDA ratio has been over 5.8 for which an share price in range 15.5-18p would be more appropriate. The average EV:EBITDA ratio for the sector is over 7. Hope this helps. PS the 10x15minute MA is offering support at 3.88p and it has now crossed the 100x15minute (3 day) MA at 3.85p. Bullish?
butterflypeter: hi guys hope this is of interest to you. Yell share price 4pence.The hole way down from 650p.NOw thats a drop and half. 2006/7 they were trading at the five pound what happened then that affect such a drop.if any one knows then tell me.if you dont i will tell you what happened which i just cottoned on to yesterday.this company is on the way back up come may.Interesting developments will happen then.cant say now but will later if you can give me your opinion as to why the sudden declince.i wait silently and excited with what i know to share with you. i made some calls to day to officaldom and got ansewers that you will want to hear.come back to me
leoneobull: Seems with all the banter here today, most have missed the crucial figures of £250million CASH in the bank and potential growth via annual returns above inflation...that COULD be acquired by (say) the likes of Li-Ka-Shing (CKI) or another similar entrepreneur, for a mere £141million share value purchase... How does that compute in your brain? £100million INSTANT profit When the penny drops, this share price (as Ellhans points out) will no longer be in the doldrums... Hey...even a rational investor would agree that the TRUE share price should be: The money in the bank PLUS the money held in share deposits... Now lets say that is zero for effect, and work on the figures TRUE... so for the newly educated with degrees who are unable to read write and do sums...divide 250 by 141 and multiply by the current share price .. You should have 8.6347518p round down to 8.63p and THAT is the bare minimum this share price should be TODAY... Now if you agree that Flash Gordon CAN save the world in fourteen hours, and more so...YELL are still making P-R-O-F-I-T...have faith... Let's get real guys, This drop today is just panic measures, and newbies not understanding what they do...oh. yes. and readers and believers of LF and A08...
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