White Young Share Discussion Threads

[squire007] 30/12/2009 12:00

simple maths always works .... see

lol



mmmmmmmm 37p like it

[daniel] 30/12/2009 05:18

N = £40000000Y* X 23.67bY*
(y) = a + bx
Slope(b) = (NΣXY - (ΣX)(ΣY)) / (NΣX2 - (ΣX)2)
Intercept(a) = (ΣY - b(ΣX)) / N =7.56p

AIM >1< 7.56 X10 / 2 = 37.3p

[squire007] 30/12/2009 01:20

tell us your maths on that then !?

[daniel] 29/12/2009 11:54

Rouge company with absolutely no regard for investors.
After consolidation of 1 new share for 10 existing shares on aim, shareprice more likely to fall

[squire007] 28/12/2009 12:11

A better leaner company only one way UP UP ...safe and backed for 2yrs

[postiga08] 24/12/2009 11:04

is this company screwed? notice share price is all time low, any hope for WHY in new yr?

[jardi20] 23/12/2009 19:42

Hope you all have a Merry Xmas and prosperous New Year, and let's hope this baby performs well in the NEW YEAR. Hope Santa is good to you and stay sober.

[johnhemming] 23/12/2009 15:49

According to the company's documentation holders of WHY after 6th January who hold them in ISAs have 30 days in which to decide whether to sell them (and keep that cash in the ISA) or not to sell them. If they don't sell them then any dividends (not before 2013) or capital gains will be taxable in a normal manner - as if they were not in a tax wrapper.

The price for the additional share capital is I think 7.6p. The company, however, needs to pay off over 20M of preference shares from profit (to the lenders) before it can pay any dividend.

In terms of valuing the company, therefore, you need to consider what the underlying earnings are. The liguidity of the post recapitalisation shares will be quite small because the 85% held by the institutions will not be able to trade at a whim.

The new shares are consolidated on a 1 for 10 basis as well.

Hence possible rought valuations are:
PE 10 on underling 12m - 120m minus 30m pref shares - 90m 15% of this 13.5m ie approximately 4 times the current market cap.
Alternatively turnover at 200m minus 30m etc etc.

This depends, however, on how well they manage to cope with the global situation.

[squire007] 22/12/2009 21:58

9p jan 6th

[squire007] 21/12/2009 00:10

who would tell him otherwise !?

[deanroberthunt] 18/12/2009 17:27

DANIEL...YOU WON'T BE BLE TO HOLD THIS IN AN ISA ONCE IT DELISTS FROM THE MAIN MARKET....PERIOD

GO ASK YOUR BROKER....DEAL WITH FACTS NOT HOPE

2P

[squire007] 15/12/2009 09:48

daniel can you expand on the 23p deal .....tia

[daniel] 14/12/2009 14:27

The banks are reckless and greedy, management seems corrupt and institutional holders are nonchalant (can't be bordered to travel to Leeds and vote, its client's money). The good thing is that deal was done at 23p per share.
The FSA needs to investigate these types of seemingly obnoxious activities
.

[daniel] 14/12/2009 14:16

Nonsense, get your facts right and stop posting rubbish on the bb. Existing holders in ISA are not affected. New holders cannot buy into ISA, simple.

[deanroberthunt] 14/12/2009 13:38

this will continue to fall as everyone holding this in an ISA wrapper, either fundies or private investors will have to sell.

deal with facts

[squire007] 14/12/2009 12:50

leaving 15% is a poor affair ............... will the 60% banks hold be released back to the open mkt if they are paid off at some point ??

[kiwihope] 14/12/2009 09:01

Fortunately I don't hold any shares in this company. You have to ask yourself who are the directors working for? OK, the banks are increasing their risk by putting more money into the business, so they are reasonably wanting a bigger prospective return. But the directors? Why do they need to have this level of reward when it was their management that got the company in this mess in the first place. Sure there may be some new directors but 25% of the company is absolutely disgusting. By doing this they are effectively wiping out another 60% of existing shareholders equity. They are incredibly greedy (does anyone know what their basic pay is?) and I certainly would not trust them with any of my money. It really makes my blood boil to see this sort of thing going on.

[squire007] 12/12/2009 23:06

anyone put all this in simple math terms .... and explain kinda !


please x

[squire007] 11/12/2009 10:03

AGM today 3pm

[squire007] 10/12/2009 12:07

well voting power game now !!!

[jas0701] 10/12/2009 11:42

Thanks guys for the info.

Appreciate it very much.

[stevemarkus] 10/12/2009 10:24

If it transfers to AIM, you will not be able to hold it in an ISA. Only companies listed on the main market, or those on AIM with a dual-listing on a foreign exchange, can be held in an ISA. I don't imagine that WHY is listed on a foreign exchange.

Steve.