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[luckyorange] 13/12/2016 18:12

Ahhh, graphite , plenty of that around without BEM :-)

[luckyorange] 13/12/2016 18:08

They just produced £100k worth for a customer anley,not aware of anyone else producing GNP's of that quantity and quality, I think that you or I have missed something? Have no idea what you mean with your last sentence by 'buy and turn into a profit', but will look

[anley] 13/12/2016 17:37

I can see from all the posts made on this B/B that there are so many uses which is great......BUT production has to be geared to uses which make profit and that seems to be difficult to pin point at the moment.

The case of bike tyers is a good one.........what is the cost of a new graphane tyre .V. standard bog tyre which may or may not shave seconds off what!!

BEM on AIM is looking for graphane in Finland and so far so good but it will take years to produce the stuff for Mr Ricketts to buy and turn into a profit..........so have a look at what they are doing - its interesting.

[luckyorange] 13/12/2016 16:34

Ride into the future on bike tyres made with graphene
Cyclists shave seconds off times as sport helps pioneer use of wonder material



Moreover, the different methods of making graphene mean that it varies in quality. Neill Ricketts, chief executive of Aim-listed graphene producer Versarien, which makes advanced materials, says: “Graphene is very similar to buying tomato sauce: there’s Heinz at one end and budget brands at the other.”

[luckyorange] 13/12/2016 11:16

That's AIM for you anley, mm's are very good at making money out of it, reminder of the rules

You buy and the price goes down

Sell and the price goes up!

[anley] 13/12/2016 10:12

Meanwhile the price has been marked down (11p)

[superg1] 13/12/2016 06:41

They'll soon pick up on VRS when products start to launch (as in news).

[luckyorange] 12/12/2016 18:31

Elcora begins shipping graphene from their new Nova Scotia production facility.
2016-10-26 10:09 ET - News Release



Mr. Troy Grant reports

ELCORA'S GRAPHENE CORP BEGINS GRAPHENE SHIPMENTS

Elcora Advanced Materials Corp. has made the first shipment of graphene from its 100-per-cent wholly owned subsidiary, Graphene Corp.

The graphene, produced from its Canadian plant in Bedford, N.S., has been sold. The graphene meets all the high-quality specifications as tested by the Centre for Advanced 2D Materials at the National University of Singapore. The plant is ramping up production of graphene in powder and in wafer shape to meet demand following positive review of the product by its clients.

Elcora, through Graphene Corp., has developed processes to refine graphite with a much higher yield of graphene. This process can be used with a wide variety of graphite sources, therefore does not limit itself to specific raw material used. The Elcora technical personnel have also developed a unique low-cost and ecological process to make graphene that is commercially scalable. The company believe that its team is composed of the best research and development people in both graphite and graphene, as well as using top-of-the-line processes. The combination of mining resource proprietary processes with some of the best minds in the world concerning graphene applications means that Elcora has the tools and resources for graphene vertical integration.

As a subsidiary of Elcora, Graphene Corp. is in a unique position to produce consistently high-quality graphene. The graphene research and development facility is governed by North American laboratory quality standards and is dedicated to graphene production and application developments.

According to research done at the Centre for Advanced 2D Materials at the National University of Singapore, it shows that Elcora has generated a new and unique graphene production process with 55 per cent of graphene content. Many graphene production companies currently generate a thin graphite powder with only 2 to 10 per cent of graphene content.

"This is an important milestone for the Graphene Corp. facility. The company is currently preparing graphene for subsequent shipments," said Troy Grant, Elcora's president and chief executive officer.



(Forum for you to join superg!? )

[billbyrne] 12/12/2016 16:49

Another graphene market research piece that fails to mention VRS but mentions agm and hayd amongst others.

[superg1] 11/12/2016 18:02

The sad thing is folk fall for that rubbish. To think he is going on about a company that will be installing it, not mining Perovskite, not creating the etch, not supplying the tech just applying it.

Perovskite as a solution is interesting and I think the Saudi company now have 30% of Dyesol.

This is worth a read which is Dyesol quarterly news, not for what is in it but the way they write news.

You have to love the Aussies for straight talk.



EG

Quietly, we have once again been progressing business development in Europe. In fact, we have recently signed a (prototype facility/ manufacturing) heads of agreement. However, it will not have any meaningful implications for shareholders until we can confirm the enthusiasm with binding and fully funded contracts of
supply and joint manufacture. We have become reasonably experienced in understanding the dynamics of commercial collaboration and the lessons learned mean we take nothing for granted. As they say, “show me the money”! That said, we hope to translate the recent, early stage negotiations into a binding commercial
arrangement in the coming months, underpinned by substantial government financial support.

Stop Press
We note over the weekend news of a Tesla solar roofing tile or shingle. Foremost, we applaud Tesla for
recognising the significant opportunity of genuine BIPV. However, until we see the performance figures, we
are quietly confident to go head-to-head with our technology and the Tesla prototype on a LCOE basis. It is
indeed concerning that such an announcement has practically no economic or technical substantiation.
We also draw your attention to a recent article in Advanced Science, where Professor Liyuan Han of the
Japanese National Institute of Material Science projects PSC technology to produce electricity as low as 3.5 to 4.9 US cents/kWh. These more recent figures are significantly lower than our own conservative projections made in the ARENA funded study. Tesla, our hand is on the table, so please show the world your cards?

NO BS about being experts and what a wonderful deal it is, good old as it is talk.

[superg1] 11/12/2016 12:23

Shavian

He needs a kicking that fella, he's a fraud

He's using figures for all energy used to come up with figures to replace electricity at 1% market penetration.

Anyway I'll stop ranting on. He's trying to con folk into paying for his report and perhaps has mates in the share ready to exit if Lemmings arrive.

There is a key issue with his claims. Such tech is not available yet but will be in the next few years.

Why use 10% market penetration in the US to get a big figure when he has already stated by another means that 4% of buildings covered would be enough to power the entire US.

The company he is talking about sounds like it's about what we would know as solar panel installers taking a cut. No up front cost but they would charge less over the years than you would for power, Of course no other company is going to copy that are they. :-)

The real money surely lies in the companies that develop the technology. But the key issue the supply of the technology.

[superg1] 11/12/2016 11:58

Shavian

He has such a superb network worldwide lol

He claims there is only 1 public company in this right now and they are currently $10 per share. That ignores Dyesol them as they are not that price. AND investors don't know about this sector it, well that Ignores the private UK company which is seeing good investment Oxford PV.

[superg1] 11/12/2016 11:21

Btw

I'll send you the invoice.

:-)

[superg1] 11/12/2016 11:20

He mentions Berkeley lab and here is there comment on it.



So it sounds like ramptastic about Perovskite but with good reason/scientific data behind it.

[superg1] 11/12/2016 11:16

I can post some more on it if you want :-) but I'd be here all day.

I just don't mention it much as it's down the line rather than the here and now composites.

[superg1] 11/12/2016 11:15

News from 2014

2-DTech will also receive £98,000 to explore the functionalisation of solid-state
dye-sensitised solar cells, which will be expedited in conjunction with Dyesol Ltd, the Australian solar clean tech company.

It was mentioned at the open day about the Dyesol guy in Manchester. It's one of those unnamed 9 collaborations as in recent news.

The Saudi industrial giant Tansee took a 20% stake in Dyesol in 2013.

A quick bit of media comment about the combination.

Perovskite is the new buzzword in photovoltaics. And graphene is the buzzword for just about every other high-tech application, including photovoltaics.

Now researchers at Hong Kong Polytechnic University have combined these two materials to make a semi-transparent solar cell capable of power conversion efficiencies around 12 percent, a significant improvement over the roughly 7-percent efficiency of traditional semi-transparent solar cells.

The semi-transparent design of these solar cells means that they can absorb light from both sides and could allow them to be used as windows that serve the dual function of letting light into a building and generating electricity.

In the design of the Hong Kong researchers’ solar cell, the perovskite serves as active layer for harvesting the light, and the graphene acts as the transparent electrode material. Graphene has long been pursued as a potential replacement for indium tin oxide (ITO) as a transparent electrode material for displays.

Here again, graphene’s transparency, high conductivity, and potentially low cost seemed attractive to the researchers. The researchers improved on the conductivity of the graphene by coating it with a thin layer of a polymer that also served as an adhesion layer to the perovskite active layer during the lamination process.

The researchers were

[superg1] 11/12/2016 11:06

Shavian

First thought was Perovskite without viewing the video.

On viewing the video I think it's Perovskite.

Look at the video at 2 mins 54 seconds, the picture of 'the rock'

Here is the picture they used as you will see.



Why did I drop on Perovskite so quickly???

Dyesol who are working on Perovskite solar cells and currently are working with VRS possibly to enhance then with the addition of graphene.

There is a dyesol guy in Mancheter working with 2D tech.

EG

Dyesol is a global leader in the development and commercialisation of Perovskite Solar Cell (PSC) technology – 3rd Generation photovoltaic technology that can be applied to glass, metal, polymers or cement. Dyesol manufactures and supplies high performance materials and is focussed on the successful commercialisation of PSC photovoltaics. It is a publicly listed company: Australian Securities Exchange ASX (DYE) and German Open Market (D5I).

[spike_1] 11/12/2016 10:55

Re - above article. It relates - I think - to a U.S. company, and to avoid confusion (after a quick glance at the video transcript - which is very easy to read: ) it does not appear to involve GNP's. Re 'super thin qualities' this material is 330 nanometers thick.

Whilst it MAY not be a scam (it's $49 to subscribe), I don't believe it is worth even looking at.

So......

Nothing to see here - move on!

And have a great day! Mike

[shavian] 11/12/2016 09:19

Here's a link to the latest puff-video from Angel Publishing, enticing viewers with news of a miracle crystal which will totally eclipse silicon in solar panels. As usual he does not tell you what it is, but hints at its super-thin qualites. Sounds familar? Unfortuately he drones on for 40 minutes, but I'd be interested in your reaction, and see if you can identify the tiny company he's talking about which he says will transform the lives of everybody, especially his investors.

Here it is:

[luckyorange] 10/12/2016 22:42

Thanks for the advice Shavian, I hadn't realised it was that simple a fix.

I suppose the point with Motley Fool is that they are not aware of 2D Tech and the advances that have been made, similar to the rest of us until VRS got hold of the tech.

Just goes to show how tentatively VRS are playing it with the media types and yet the ones who need to know are in the know it seems, superg is right, once it becomes public knowledge all hell will break loose. Makes me wonder how much depends on the recent 100k order, quite a lot I would assume?

I also suppose that it does help VRS a lot with the NGI signposting customers to them.

[superg1] 10/12/2016 16:35

That silly putty news is everywhere with talk of fitness sensors etc. There was I thinking if CTAG had that the herd would go daft

[shavian] 10/12/2016 15:40

Lucky: many thanks for fixing those links. Interesting stuff. I had not clocked that the comment about graphene not yet being invistable was a quote from the article - it looked like you had gone soft on it yourself - my apologies for grasping the wrong end of the stick!

The applications are coming thick and fast now, and many of the threads trace back to VRS.