Transense Technologies Share Discussion Threads

[sojourno] 14/9/2016 19:18

We don't know what R&D support fee we're getting and we're unlikely to. Royalties won't start until it get's to the market, if it gets to the market. I seriously doubt Honeywell gave that patent away so it surely ascribes some value to our IP, which considering the numerous projects in the pipeline likely contributes to valuing us above where we are now.
We're not the only UK AIM listed company with great prospects that finds a London listing stale; and a stale market is the problem behind our share price, not the business model.

[piggyinthemiddle] 14/9/2016 18:56

Not that interesting if we aren`t getting any royalties from it!

[sojourno] 14/9/2016 11:03

PITM... Any single port SAW sensor is TRT or ST IP. The Jaguar ex-Honeywell Patent I linked to references our IP.
It's not that Honeywell were the original assignees that is interesting but that Jaguar acquired it.

[dusseldorf] 14/9/2016 08:41

was a 1,111,111 trade at the close yesterday. Worked sell perhaps, reason for decline.

[piggyinthemiddle] 14/9/2016 06:19

Maybe,I`ll believe it when I see it.
Unfortunately,we(myself included) are all willing the company to succeed so anything we pick up remotely linked to saw sensors or torque,we immediately make two plus two to equal five.
Yes,I remember the deal with Honeywell which led to nowhere.There has been no mention of a revival of that link or with Jaguar and Schott isn`t or hasn`t been mentioned by the company at all in the last few years so any royalties from that source must be quite small.
We need to get a steady stream of income from somewhere and I`m hoping the 21st will give us a clue.

[dieseltaylor] 13/9/2016 23:42

pitm - I don't think you know the history of the company. Honeywell were a licensee of the TRT technology. That the patent is mentioned in subsequent patent applications could indicate that those quoting are building on the use of SAW torque sensors. It is interesting to see how many car companies reference each other!

TRT are well in on torques sensors with patents. I believe AFAIR there is a French company which may have something similarish but not the same. TRT stuff has been around for some time and used by many big companies and Schott have packaged them for use in unpleasant environments.

If people are playing SAW based torque sensors it has a reasonable chance of being ours. Looking at the time-line even if JLR were incorporating them into their projected transmissions it is not immediate. What is interesting is the very wide torque bands which may be a result of the greater accuracy and control that can be derived from a closed loop engine management system.

pitm - You may wish to consider magneto-resistive torque measurement as a potential competitor. Bear in mind that companies file around 20 times more patents than they actually use.

[piggyinthemiddle] 13/9/2016 20:14

Well,all that tells me is we aren`t the only ones using wireless batteryless acoustic wave sensors?
So where does that leave TRT?
We are minnows in the big wide world.
Also,drw1`s link to the website mention of Intelwind is four years old-maybe Trt technology will be used in the US but it takes a big leap of faith to believe that!
Just hope the 21st is a game changer!!

[sojourno] 13/9/2016 20:06

Keyword search: Jaguar wireless torque:-

Traction control featuring wireless batteryless acoustic wave torque sensors.

Original assignee is Honeywell.

[dieseltaylor] 13/9/2016 17:12

It is Jaguar talking about their Ingenium engine which is a clever piece of kit being used as the basis for petrol and diesel.

This is not the same article:

[piggyinthemiddle] 13/9/2016 16:18

You lost me there dt,where is that from?

[dieseltaylor] 13/9/2016 13:29

Well nobody ever called them smart : )

The new engines will be launched alongside the new TRANSCENDeight-speed gearbox. With an ultra-wide spread of ratios, it should allow for short, crawl-friendly bottom ratios without sacrificing refinement at highway speeds. In an attempt to future-proof the unit there's an integrated disconnect clutch to help connect it up with hybrid powertrains, and the inbuilt all-wheel drive torque transfer system is able to shuffle power between the front and rear axles.

If only this was using our tech,

[piggyinthemiddle] 13/9/2016 12:23

A pretty weak one if it is!

[dieseltaylor] 13/9/2016 11:20

should not be ignored.

Do you think a tree shake is going on? I do.

[drw1] 13/9/2016 09:12

Transense will receive a grant to develop SAW torque sensors for the large diameter shafts required for this project and the work required to integrate these sensors into the newly developed wind turbine designs. Involvement in this project came about as a result of work already underway with a major wind turbine gearbox design house. There is an increasing demand for wind turbine monitoring systems and Transense is positioning itself to exploit this emerging high value market as it develops.
(from the transense website)

[joeblogg2] 13/9/2016 08:58

crazy marked down 5% but still they want 2.49 to buy. Not long to go before presentation.

[sojourno] 13/9/2016 08:57

"...so far..."
The GE link is clear.

[drw1] 13/9/2016 08:56

Well let's hope the potential advantages of our tech in windpower play a major part with any new projects going forward.
Looking forward to next weeks presentation.

[amt] 13/9/2016 08:54

Not sure if you can at this time link windpower to TRT success. No income so far except grants if I recall correctly.

[sojourno] 13/9/2016 08:46

Potentially paradigm shifting:-



"The Obama administration unveiled their gargantuan National Offshore Wind Strategy last Friday. If executed, this joint plan by the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) and Department of the Interior (DOI) could possibly output 7,200 terawatt-hours a year, which would be enough to provide “nearly double the total electric generation of the United States in 2015.”

Could that do for us what CBD did for GWP? (Which I also gave a heads-up to first!)
A US listing would be exquisite if it comes anywhere close!

[dieseltaylor] 08/9/2016 19:17

Good then the learning and implementation curve would be very short. Provided my connection-fu is working well.

[monty68] 08/9/2016 18:12

Siemens have been working on SAW technology nearly as long as Transense.

[piggyinthemiddle] 08/9/2016 17:30

JP told us a lot of things.....-(

[sojourno] 08/9/2016 17:15

JP told me they were targeting Siemens as long ago as 2006.
...but they would be anyway!

[dieseltaylor] 07/9/2016 16:13

Just out of curiosity I counted the number of patents lodged by Siemens since August 1st ; just over 100 it seems in the many fields they operate in.

[dieseltaylor] 07/9/2016 16:03

Getting warnings on patents can be interesting.

Interesting reading. My money is on Siemens being the mystery partner for TRT as they have obviously been working hard on maximising and incorporating SAW's into machinery.

And Siemens are very big boys indeed.

As to whether it is their own research/ and someone else I think that very unlikely as so few European conglomerates fit the bill alluded to by TRT last year. How and when it translates to the bottom line - assuming that they are serious in using it I cannot say. My guess is the shareholder meeting and analyst report will be to discuss that.

However as researching and incorporating costs money I suspect they are serious.