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TEL Teliti

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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Teliti LSE:TEL London Ordinary Share KYG8753W1042 ORD USD0.10 (DI)
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 39.50 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

Teliti Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
16/1/2007
18:45
B.F.
Hardman's withdrew their forecast for TEL some time ago for whatever reason.

I would also expect them to give us pretty good update on the first half as it is virtually up.

TDW is saying that the annual report is confirmed as 25th January and that was the day after the release of th results last year.

I don't know how I will contain my excitemnt for that long.

kimboy2
16/1/2007
17:18
jannief - 16 Jan'07 - 10:38 - 125 of 132
"Squareoo, why not ring Greg Hallet again - it may confirm a rumour that he is leaving or has gone !"

What rumour is that - one that you're trying to start?!

I know Greg Hallett and I have no doubt about his strong personal commitment to this company - in which he has made a sizeable personal investment, and also has share options.

SteMiS - 16 Jan'07 - 12:10 - 130 of 132
"Hardman have no forecast (as shown in their January newsletter) and pretty much seem to have given up with TEL. ... "

What Hardman's January 2007 newsletter actually says is that there have been no further developments since their significant positive coverage on TEL in their November newsletter:



My impression is that TEL may not fully realise the importance of getting their results out as soon as possible - they may feel that as they have until the end of January, there's no problem as long as they get them out before them. In this case therefore I don't see the delay as sinister.

And as the half year is almost up, the company should be able to give us a good idea how things have gone in this interim period. Such a trading statement will clearly be very important.

Re. the number of shares in issue last year, please refer to my post of 13th. December:-
Blank Frank - 13 Dec'06 - 20:08 - 90 of 133 edit
" ... The number of shares you are using is actually far too high; the recent increase in the number of shares took place well after the year end 31/7/06; but even if it hadn't, the weighted average number of shares in issue for the year is the relevant figure - i.e. the figure which is taken for calculating earnings per share. In this case the average no. of shares in issue for last year is probably c. 2.8M. on a rough estimate. For pre-tax profit of £400K. this would give eps of c. 14.3p. For pre-tax profit of £500K. it would give eps of c. 17.85p. ... "


B.F.

blank frank
16/1/2007
14:17
I thought the elected officers of the company i.e. the Directors ran the company of behalf of the Shareholders i.e. us, but I see no sign of this with regards to publishing their numbers.

Reporting results of what happened back 6 months ago provides little or no help to Shareholders who want to know how the company is performing now and not during 2005/6.

Very poor show on behalf of TEL and as SteMis pointed out it is not the most complicated business in the world so there really is no excuse taking so long to update us.

blindfaith2
16/1/2007
12:33
Well, we'll have to wait and see what they calculate the average number of shares to be, but the £400,000 (+/- something) will be the key figure.
jonwig
16/1/2007
12:14
ADA now up 45%, into the top 3 as anticipated!

Next stop is top spot :-) (try saying that quickly after a few sherberts!)

2lb
16/1/2007
12:10
On 19/10/06 there was

100,000 granted to vendors of Datatel
1,190,476 in a placing to buy Datatel
634,920 conversion of loan notes
222,231 conversion of preference shares
400,826 gifted back by Ed Smyth

This means 3,329,957 at 31 July 2006

I agree with movement during 2005/6.

My weighted average is about 3.134M, so an EPS of 11.2p.

Not much different and a long way from 20p!

I don't know where the forecast comes from. Hardman have no forecast (as shown in their January newsletter) and pretty much seem to have given up with TEL.

The only way I can see TEL making an EPS of 20p is if they have a large tax credit from bringing the deferred tax asset in the losses onto the balance sheet.

Either way I see no immediate prospect of the share price getting much higher than here.

Assuming no further share issues (!) the average number of shares next year should be about 4.71M. On a zero tax basis, £800k PBT should give an EPS of 17.0p. Maybe we might see 150p n a years time?

stemis
16/1/2007
11:52
Kimboy - yes, I see.

The way I did it, then, should get the same result, but doesn't:
(All divided by 50 from RNS figures)

31/07/05 ... 1.87m shs for 20 days
19/08/05 ... 2.34m shs for 70 days
31/10/05 ... 2.89m shs for 275 days

Average to 31/07/06, 2.73m shs.

£400,000 รท 2.73m = 14.6p

jonwig
16/1/2007
11:38
jonwig
I have taken the shares in issue on 21/12/06 and subtracted those issued since the year end and pro rataed those issued during the year.

kimboy2
16/1/2007
11:24
Kimboy - aren't you using share issues, etc. which happened after the relevant year end?
Shouldn't we be looking at shares in issue between 01/08/05 and 31/07/06?

Will have a quick look again.

jonwig
16/1/2007
10:51
The number of shares in issue was given in;



The total was 5,076,758 at 21/12/06. However this was some 5 months after the year end and there had been issues since then.

On 19/10/06 there was
1,190,476 in a placing to buy Datatel
634,920 conversion of loan notes

That would leave 3,251,362 at the year end.

On 31/10/06 there was a placing of the equivalent of 400,000 shares.
On 28/10/06 there was the equivalent of 150,000 given to westcom as part of the acquisition.
On 13/9/06 there were the equivalent of 467,826 share given to Cassydora. Though 407,826 were gifted back to the company on 19/10/06.

I calcualte if these are weighted pro rata the number of shares in the EPS calculation would be about 3.05m.

If the profit after tax was 350k then the EPS would be 11p.

I have no doubt missed something/miscalculated so I am open to correction.

kimboy2
16/1/2007
10:38
Squareoo, why not ring Greg Hallet again - it may confirm a rumour that he is leaving or has gone !
jannief
16/1/2007
09:29
Theysaid the results would be 'broadly' in line with expectations, which I presume means a bit less.

Only problem is its so long ago I have forgotten what the market expectation was (other than disappointment).

kimboy2
16/1/2007
09:24
I very much agree with your last sentence, but they seem to get away with it.
jannief
16/1/2007
07:52
You would certainly have thought so. Six months to get your results out is very poor; its not as if they have a large dispersed group with overseas companies and joint ventures.

Although they have twice confirmed they are trading in line with market expectations, I'm finding it hard to believe there is not a bunny away here and we aren't going to get a poor set of results. I hope I'm wrong, but I have little faith in the management to deliver what they say.

stemis
15/1/2007
17:24
I can't see the results giving the share price much of a fillip - if they were going to be good they would have got them out sooner !!
jannief
15/1/2007
11:33
The only similarity I can see between MAI and TEL is that if you turn MAI's graph thro 180o it's close to TEL's.
blindfaith2
11/1/2007
18:18
MAI (Maintel), the closest comparable listed company to TEL, has today reached £2 a share for the first time:-



As at 11-Jan-2007 18:01:20
201.000 +2.00 +1.01%




TEL may?!

B.F.

blank frank
09/1/2007
18:37
The first rise in TEL's closing mid price since mid October is not to be sniffed at, even if the increase is only a penny:-

As at 09-Jan-2007 18:17:56
75.000 +1.00 +1.35%

Bid Offer Volume High Low Last Close
72.00 82.00 1,916 77.00 76.30 75.00 on 09-Jan-2007

Last 5 trades
Time/Date Price Volume Trade value Type
13:41:58 09-Jan-2007 77.00 629 484.33 Ordinary Trade
10:08:56 09-Jan-2007 76.30 1,287 981.98 Ordinary Trade
12:44:08 08-Jan-2007 70.88 4,500 3,189.60 Ordinary Trade
12:07:24 05-Jan-2007 71.00 1,000 710.00 Ordinary Trade
14:07:08 04-Jan-2007 71.00 105 74.55 Ordinary Trade



Hopefully this is an encouraging sign ahead of the final results expected next week.

B.F.

blank frank
09/1/2007
11:50
...from 70-78 (yesterday) to 72-78 today.

Talking about leaving results till the last minute, TEO put out their FY numbers at about 11:30 on Friday 29 December - just an hour to spare.

I think that's very bad, and they should be at 7:00am on whatever day.

jonwig
08/1/2007
16:42
Square> being thick as usual. I'm guessing Tel is TMG so who's "he" ?
blindfaith2
08/1/2007
15:04
Square> is that known or a guess and although not quite dead we do move at a very leisurely pace here but not through choice.
blindfaith2
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