Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Taihua LSE:TAIH London Ordinary Share GB00B1GC5F60 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 3.125p 2.75p 3.50p 3.125p 3.125p 3.125p 102,136.00 07:38:38
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Pharmaceuticals & Biotechnology 357.7 -315.3 -391.9 - 3.27

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
10/2/2017
15:09
Are you taking your full tender at 3.28 odvod?
oxtail2015
10/2/2017
11:30
good arbitrage if anyone interested - I am selling 100k at 3,1p
odvod
09/2/2017
22:01
These new happenings at the factories what time scale is this over?.If not reported will this break aim rules and make the tender non legit due to withheld/misinformation.If a large amount of money spent should this not be voted on?.I wont give my shares away at these prices but i think the board are getting cheap shares,and with the trades the last few months something stinks here someone knows something.That nan yang character also interests me
oxtail2015
09/2/2017
21:23
Oxtail, I remember hearing prof Chen years ago say "The London listing was good to keep as they may need to raise funds in future" lets just say it was a comical moment at the meeting. Alas though a fundraising/share issue has been carried last year but the amount raised from the UK and rest of the world without Mr Tao Ji who had underwritten it was less than £10k before costs. So last year there was a 25% dilution of almost everybody's holdings and this year will probably see a 25% reduction of mainly UK investors shares via the buybacks. All legal as such and nobody is holding a gun at anybody's head to sell up but at the end of the day the core owners of Taihua will be a Chinese based group and some people may say or opinion that they maybe are connected. All this substantial reduction of small shareholders for about 3p ish and then the company will have 75%+ in hands of a group that maybe in concert. A full disclosure of the situation at the factories in Luonan could scupper the buyback and sink the situation of a possible forced 75%+ buyout in the future.
lyonst5
09/2/2017
21:16
I am very much pleased to see the website updated this evening and now mostly to the compliance of rule 26. We now even have the new GMP certificate on there also. This is good progress. Though i'm not sure about Taihua still having a Certificate of Suitability EDQM and going down the injectables road but hope the glitches can be ironed out asap.
lyonst5
09/2/2017
17:26
Q; I believe it possible that it would be easy for at least 30%+ of the private shareholders to combine in to get a director elected to the board and so to have some influence and force through some changes. The only problem would be who would want the job ? Anyone think this tender is to counter this,and is in the boards interest not shareholders?.I am not sure if our new buyer/nan yang has reduced that % figure, will many share holders sell down at 3.28 if so that over 7% gone.I feel any chance of a an elected director are small. The excuse for the lse listing was always "may need to raise funds in future" how could they do this without more unwanted diluting.Would be in all interests to buy pi's out and future funding can come from private backers/banks.would be interesting to know what bigger holders like jtcod would accept.
oxtail2015
09/2/2017
16:44
no takers at 3.3p. I was selling some more
kaos3
09/2/2017
08:02
DB, Visits to the companies factories by shareholders and Non Exec's are few are far between, so i was very dismayed at what occurred and the reasons given when the investor was trying organise the flights for the visit. I followed this up with the company and the asked why the investor was given the cold shoulder when wanting to visit China operations. The answer being that it was because the company was so busy with the GMP inspections and they had no time. I gave the view that shareholders that are prepared to make the time and expense to visit China should be treated better especially when the directors from China do not make even the effort to attend meetings in the UK and their expenses are paid from the companies coffers. The resulting situation was that the shareholder sold down the a substantial holding due to their approach.
lyonst5
09/2/2017
07:41
Lyonst5........Your comments regarding the shareholder who sold out due to not being able to visit the site, are they based on personal knowledge, or is this something you have heard third hand so to speak? If this is true, then I agree, that is totally unacceptable. I imagine that there are a few on here who accumatively hold quite a large percentage of Taihua. I dont know if you are in personal contact with each other, but if the feeling is mutual amongst you all, then I doubt it would be diffucult to appoint a spokesperson who is known to the Board, to express our joint concerns. It would be better as a group rather than as an individual. I agree with all you say, but is it too late for our leopard to change its spots!!!
duplicate book
08/2/2017
22:50
And actions and not resignations are needed if i've rubbed somebody up the wrong way here tonight. A quote from ML King "If we stand and say nothing it's as if we're agreeing". Sorry for my timing of my posts of late, i am currently on the road as such. So stand on your feet dying than die begging on your knees.
lyonst5
08/2/2017
21:13
Oxtail, i agree. The current state of the company is basically unknown to 99% of its western shareholders. The current state of affairs is known by the board of directors but not being disclosed to their shareholders via RNS or the website or normal means of contact. This is unacceptable. I personally do not have the time to go out to China at the moment to visit. The last attempt by a shareholder last year after the changes were made to visit the factories was knocked back and subsequently the substantial shareholder sold out completely due their attitude. The problem was the state of affairs at Taihua before the upgrades was pretty shocking, maybe a few holders who have visited in the past know how bad it was. So losing the EDQM and lack of progress over the years was no surprise. Apparently to my knowledge that is not that case now. If the company believes what i just wrote is untrue please then please give counter augments to what i have just posted. And regrettably Advfn is Taihua's Investor Relations though you can call or email me if not here is best. And i would like to see some extra information from the company and Nomad before the buyback closes so their investors/owners can make a rational choice. P.S. It pains me to see long term holders sellout though the blatant obnoxious behavior of the company. I noted hornblower threw in the towel recently as well. If this was U.K. or better still N.I. based company then they would tow the line and keep within the law or else. The gravy train continues though and guess who is at the receiving end of the rough end of the pineapple here ?
lyonst5
08/2/2017
09:57
5k a lot of cash for something the board should tell you for free.nick should know what is going on but he is selling down?
oxtail2015
08/2/2017
09:48
One of the Luonan factories, the photo is on the UK website. Coordinates 34° 5'3.18"N 110° 8'59.26"E No recent unpaid imagery is currently available since the rebuilding work. I had a rough quote of £5k for a satellite to get a new set done.
lyonst5
07/2/2017
21:50
DB. I can see the reasons for keeping the listing as the company see the London listing as a prestige thing and opens a lot of doors in for them in China. The big problem I see for them is they have no idea about being transparent and answerable to shareholders or U.K. regulations and I can see some sort of slap on the wrists soon from Aim etc over their blatant failures to comply. If the underlying business is sound then there is no need to remain listed, all profits could be divvied up between the owners and no need to tow the line with the pesky regulators and constant carping on from us shareholders and also extra costs. I think eacn wrote here a few years ago about the similar traits of parasites and shareholders, maybe he could pop back and refresh the theory and give some thoughts on the current situation. The company is currently holding back information and leading to a false market, with the buyback finally announced this I believe now is deeply troubling. Any directors should know their responsibilities to their shareholders also the nomad as well know theirs. P.S. If the company was anyway interested in being a normal plc the directors would attend meetings in the U.K. and have at least some interest in investor relations. A reverse takeover is a possible route here though the retooled factories and huge forsythia base alone is a current bargain. The new Chinese holders do not seem to have pharma backgrounds to my knowledge so i dismissed the idea of a reverse takeover but still a possibility.
lyonst5
07/2/2017
21:13
Lyonst5.....extrapolate that theory in post 10203, but instead of heading down the 'private' road, what about a reverse takeover? What say our new Chinese investors, and in particular, our recent buyer are concerned, or connected to a Company which would find Taihuas existing listing, and business model somewhat attractive on a more 'International' scale? Not saying.....just asking.
duplicate book
07/2/2017
19:31
In the context of a UK takeover offer, where a bidder obtains acceptances of at least 90% of the shares it is offering to buy in the target company (which is not the same as 90% of the total issued share capital) and acceptances of at least 90% of the voting rights carried by the shares it is offering to buy, it can require the remaining non-accepting shareholders to sell their shares on the terms of the offer by following the procedures in sections 974 to 991 of the Companies Act 2006. For information on the compulsory acquisition procedure, see Practice note, Buying out minority shareholders. something i found on google^
oxtail2015
07/2/2017
19:17
Have any investors reading this ever been involved in a compulsory purchase.If so what is the lowest price stock can be bought/valued?.Out of all the assumptions i have read on this thread that sounds the best one Lyonst5.
oxtail2015
07/2/2017
18:52
Maybe not seeing the wood for the trees comes to mind here. A few million (Taihua's war chest) is spent on upgrades and improvements then they suddenly they have new Chinese investors throwing money at them like there is no tomorrow for a slice of the action. In the past the company has steadfastly refused to pay a dividend even when they said they would then now when the coffers are at the lowest ebb then a suddenly a buyback. Taihua has been getting in a more shoddy state every year since IPO, even by using google earth you can see that. Now things have changed and the new GMP even attains to work carried out, but silence from the company is deafening. And after all that money spent would you think they would like to show the results off to us ? But no and why not ? The company is showing all the hallmarks of wanting to go private. I'm fully expecting a Chinese concert party of 75%+ after the buyback and then compulsory purchase/ scheme of arrangement of the remaining shares. P.S. And then throw into this mix the many millions of shares being bought over a period of months without a TR-1 being issued.
lyonst5
07/2/2017
18:39
This magical e mail address could hold all the answers taihuapharm123@163.com. "we are aiming to become a major international force in the supply of our products". international! wtf lol could you let shareholders know how this is going to happen.
oxtail2015
07/2/2017
18:11
How much has been spent on this extension? no cash info in trading update.Harvest sold in one so not for storage.Is this the reason shareholder refused visit.interesting!!!!
oxtail2015
07/2/2017
17:56
Oxtail, From the amount of money spent on the factories and the new holders in China to all and sundry it appears that things are happening. Even from the only photo in the public domain, the Luonan factory has gained an extension of 2 floors and i think full of shiny stainless steel goodies, but for what it will be all used for i am at a loss but i do believe the company knows, well unless they are all suffering from a bout of amnesia.
lyonst5
07/2/2017
17:32
When they have the shares from the tender it will be in their interest for the price to rise.We could start getting good news!,if anything 3p should be a solid base heading forward.Big loss for nick! could this be his exit? he has no sway over the board he has just been payed as a translator really.
oxtail2015
07/2/2017
10:53
got it lyonist5. did not know about refusal. which is big warning sign. nick hinting selling more than allocation is also a big warning sign. not reporting, web, selling crop in a minute, low selling share price of the previous ceo, prepaying all the land lease in advance etc. that is why I took profits on my trading stock. now down to the point. is this a good value at this price - imho yes but the culture of the Co has to turn around asap
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