Strat Aero Share Discussion Threads

[bygdennis] 04/10/2016 11:51

Yes kemche, I am sure!!, The costs must be much less than would have been required,

So you think the hearing will go ahead then, even though they've settled?
Who's insane kemche? What do you keep posting for?

[andy] 04/10/2016 11:24

Byg D,

"AS things stand all parties including shareholders (which none of you lot are) should be happy with how things have turned out,"

Are you kidding? They have just capitulated, paid $75K and 11.75% of the company to HS for a court case you said "had no merit"! and you're "happy"?

I wonder what would upset you?



"SA now winning contracts and have improved and integrated their acquisitions to offer a package of services accepted by our government as the best despite the competition"

They have been awarded a small contract with the POTENTIAL for more work, spread over 10 years!

Can you post the link where the government have said AERO are the best please?


And as you know so much about AERO, can you please clarify what the MARGINS are on their contract work?


"so should they need further funds we can consider they would be for further growth. Does this all sound reasonable"?

NO! They need more funds for M & A, cashburn for salaries and running costs.


"If so, Then a fundraising would not be at a huge discount as before!"

Correct, it could be a bigger discount, IMO. Last time people were told HS's case "had no merit" and people invested on that basis. Now they will have to approach the same people again and ask for more money after capitulating to HS, and very possibly at a lower price (IMO).

Well I'd like to hear how those calls go!

0.3p seems to be the consensus, and I would find it hard to argue for a higher price at the current share price.

[kemche] 04/10/2016 11:17

"SA recently raised funds to pay for the hearing (that is not required)" - are you sure about that? The lawyers worked for gratis?

"Does this all sound reasonable?" - No! it sounds insane!

[andy] 04/10/2016 11:10

Byg D,

I don't recall me calling you any names, can you please post just ONE example?

Can you answer this question,do you think AERO will require a placing before Christmas this year, yes or no?

And if so, at what price do you think it will be placed at?

[bygdennis] 04/10/2016 11:07

Have any of you lot been reading and keeping up? Despite SA progressing, all issues cleared up and news that tells us there is much to look forward to you have recognised nothing as positive showing you have less than nothing to offer.
Stig! of course Hulsey could dump all his shares but if you have read his arguments you should find although he seems quite temperamental he has his principals and doubtful he would bite his nose off to spite his face. Even if he does dump that would give others the opportunity he wanted by selling AK and expanding into this sector.
Husey now owns 10 of the shares in SA, He has great knowledge and considered and expert.
AS things stand all parties including shareholders (which none of you lot are) should be happy with how things have turned out, SA now winning contracts and have improved and integrated their acquisitions to offer a package of services accepted by our government as the best despite the competition (pilotov).
Reading the RNS it looks like Hulsey described as Chief executive officer of AK back in the fold? If this is so then who is better qualified?
SA is now moving on from all what you have considered negative over the last few months for whatever reasons you had, You obviously have no intention of doing the same! Taking a chance that things might not be as the news tells us,
SA recently raised funds to pay for the hearing (that is not required) and also for equipment etc: so should they need further funds we can consider they would be for further growth.
Does this all sound reasonable? If so, Then a fundraising would not be at a huge discount as before! SA have work in progress with contracts signed, are in a good place business wise with a full package of services and everything settled.
What realistic price then considering there could be more contract wins and new business before a fundraising? Read up and think about it.!

[andy] 04/10/2016 09:02

Byg D,

I don't recall me calling you any names, can you please post just ONE example?

Can you answer this question,do you think AERO will require a placing before Christmas this year, yes or no?

And if so, at what price do you think it will be placed at?

[pilotov] 04/10/2016 08:39

Hi Andy. I doubt Dennis knows the answer to your questions, unless he is a reasonably senior employee in SA. Even then a company is not going to broadcast its margins as that would put it in a poor bargaining position. However, typically in the aviation training world they would look for a 20% mark-up but that would often be whittled down to 10-15% in contract negotiations and in the face of competition. I imagine that the drone industry would look for something similar. Hope that helps.

[the stigologist] 04/10/2016 08:29

Hulsey will have 50m shares he can dump tomorrow

[bygdennis] 04/10/2016 08:06

Hi Group, SA Has been moving forward since the changes in management months ago, All issues that caused the drop have been dealt with and we now look forward to grow with this sector worth billions over the next few years.
You're posting is going backwards showing you to be completely out of touch, It is a shame you can't offer anything new and apart from name calling anything you say is speculative and nothing to do with reality, if we go off recent news, it gives a very different outlook than what you are trying to imply.

[andy] 04/10/2016 08:06

Byg D,

You continually miss the point, they don't have any money!

Please answer me this, what are the margins on their contracts? It's no good talking about contracts when you don't know the margins!

As an example, how much will they make out of a $50,000 dollar contract in the Far East next year? And the government contract you constantly refer to is only a small one with 'potential' to increase up to £2.5 million, OVER 10 YEARS! So that's £250,000 average annual turnover, but what is the profit?

You sing the praises of this company all day every day, yet cannot answer any of these basic questions. How can you make an investment decision without this knowledge?


IMO, AERO are out of cash, a financing is needed very quickly, what do you think Dennis?

Do you think there will be a financing very soon,before Christmas?

And if so, at what price do you think it will be at?

[the stigologist] 04/10/2016 07:51

Growth is amazing...

Maybe we can look forward to 100%+ increase in litigation with partners next year?

Or 100%_ increase in equity issues to fund new 'opportunities'

Or multiple equity issues to acquire new businesses to take our minds off the lack of organic growth?

[bygdennis] 04/10/2016 07:29

Same group same posts, This technology is not a dream, it's here and if you can't grasp the the benefits it brings then i feel sorry for your stone age mentality.

Now we have the technology to move forward and if you keep up will have with improved power the answer to all the old problems thought impossible even a few years ago.
SA is not all about drones, you do have an idea what SA have developed because you do post about some individually to make iffy comments but never post about everything SA have or do with it,
They have an advanced package of services recently fully integrated that our government recently approved over any other, so your puny remarks on single items show You read and learn nothing (or want it ignored for some season) hoping people will take what you say as how SA are developing into a future that has started to come to life in a big way.
You all keep trying to demean me but apart from calling me names there's nothing you've ever posted that disputes what i answer your posts with, And that's all i do! Point out what you say is irrelevant to what lays ahead is happening, I post so much because you just carry on misleading and belittling anything and everything with no regard or respect.
Reliable news, expert views, and recent contracts won informs us this and this is only the beginning of what is to come, And quickly too as it is doubtful any government or industry would want to be left behind because of anything you lot come up with as it doesn't make any sense!, except maybe to those who haven't bothered to keep up with news and you can't deny it's coming thick and fast and all good.
Let's see what you have to say about what is and not what was for a change, There's not much chance of that as has been the case for months,
Can't you lot at least be a little realistic about the benefits and advantages SA already have in place and are a leader in this sector worth many billions over the next few years for a start, the services they offer obviously cost money to develop It's called investment and how things work, and now is the time to start getting rewards from it as can be seen.
It is happening as the interest and volume here now is proof people are waking up to this in a big way and as the news keeps coming, confidence and momentum will grow especially now everything is clear and nothing to stand in the way of further progress.
OH! One more thing my friends! It looks very much like this is the last time you will have anything negative to post, You are finished, here's nothing left now for you to carry on with.
Everything now is up to date and cleared away, the accounts are up to date but with the contract wins and work in progress could only improve so there's nothing more to come you can hope for that could be considered negative.
News from now on should be be what anyone would expect from a worldwide leader with a proven package of services of new technology in a fast growing sector.

Anything to add before you retire? better to bow out gracefully! or have you an alternative to give that this sector is not the success is is and gathering pace rapidly!

[rogthepodge] 04/10/2016 01:07

can you repeat the please Andy?

[andy] 03/10/2016 20:39

bgydennis,

"Certainly my namesake is paranoid - he thinks that every critical post lowers the share price and that every repeated riposte from him raises it again! He is one deluded fruitcake!"

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Exactly!

[andy] 03/10/2016 20:39

bgydennis,

"Certainly my namesake is paranoid - he thinks that every critical post lowers the share price and that every repeated riposte from him raises it again! He is one deluded fruitcake!"

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Exactly!

[bgydennis] 03/10/2016 20:14

Yes Rog, you're right, they DO think that what they say matters! Serious investors , however, don't base their decisions on chat site tittle-tattle! Certainly my namesake is paranoid - he thinks that every critical post lowers the share price and that every repeated riposte from him raises it again! He is one deluded fruitcake!

[kemche] 03/10/2016 20:12

Nicky should realise that I cannot raise or lower a share price as I am an insignificant bod with just an opinion - albeit a polar opposite of that of the resident cheerleader. If I had the power to influence a share price I would not find myself in my present abject state of penury that BygD so kindly alluded to in his earlier post.

I will however admit freely that I have learnt a lot from Nicky Name and for that I owe him a debt of gratitude.

[rogthepodge] 03/10/2016 20:05

Dennis

I am merely stating what I have observed

they THINK that every little bit of undermining helps

why else bother?

[pottermagic2310] 03/10/2016 19:51

BYGD... SA have already announced they need more Funds... so they do.
Their own Facts & Figures present very clearly that they operate at a huge Loss, every day of every month of every year.
Their very best chance of securing sufficient funding to see them through continuing "growing pains" that might lend itself to securing more & more Contracts in multiple Sectors they claim to be targeting, is surely to secure around £2million.
To do that, based on some simple Maths, they'd possibly have to give away 1/2 of the Company.
To do that, they'd possibly have to consider doubling the number of Shares in issue, approximately.
All of this suggests an share price at some point in the near future, perhaps this quarter, maybe as soon as November, of about 0.3p... which is near enough the share price I suggested a few months ago, having understood the calamitous situation SA was facing, the lack of good, highly profitable Business being secured and the general 'burn-rate' (Losses) being repeatedly incurred.
The above assumes of course that the existing Business, operating as it does currently doesn't secure a handful of new Contracts worth approx. £2m in value to be serviced over just the next 2-3 year period elapsed... which would be quite a 'game changer'.
I'm happy to hold-out for the Fund raise to complete and take a punt at anything below 0.4p/Share
;-)

[ionlypostafterbbms] 03/10/2016 17:36

You mean while listing Google, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Amazon, Northrup etc they've made a mistake by leaving AERO out?

Very odd.

LOL.

[bgydennis] 03/10/2016 17:27

Surely some mistake here?