Silanis Share Discussion Threads

[moosh2] 18/12/2015 12:16

woop. got mine today :)

[russman] 17/12/2015 19:22

My cheque arrived today 17th.
Does a little dance, shouts, screams, hurrrrrrrrrraaaaah.
1:1 a share pays out 67.2 c (US).
Putting the cheque in the Bank first thing
Still got possible escrow payout to come.

[russman] 15/12/2015 09:30

Crikey - Matty has emailed to say cheques were mailed out Monday 14th Dec.

[russman] 12/12/2015 09:44

I have not heard from Matty & not had a cheque /letter.
varies - any luck with Matty or your nominee?
I am guessing that the Crest account has been closed so the registrar should have issued a certificate to your nominee.
I was expecting some further paperwork; not sure about Canada, but you cannot fiddle around with shareholdings in this country without informing them.

[parvez] 11/12/2015 12:19

my son has heard nothing at all from his broker :(

[varies] 02/12/2015 09:47

Russman
Thank you so much for keeping us informed

[russman] 02/12/2015 09:06

According to Vasco website, the deal completed on 25th Nov as planned.
I am hoping my cheque will be mailed today Wed 2nd Dec.
Nominee holders (unless you have filed a letter of dissent) will have been exchanged into Amalco shares.
You need to check that your nominee has sent the "letter of transmittal" (obviously you would have to authorise them to do so). I do not think that the Paying Agent will send a cheque without it.
I will tell you when I receive a cheque.

[varies] 01/12/2015 10:24

Russman.
I too am waiting for a reply from Matt Lane to my latest message. He has been very helpful so far.
I am glad to see that you think that, if the offer is voted through, there is no reasonable time limit. They have over 80% of votes in the bag.
Whilst I would like to receive the proceeds sooner rather than later, my worry has been that latecomers may be left holding their shares !

[russman] 30/11/2015 22:53

I have not heard from Matty yet.
If you are still on nominee I would pose your queries to Matt Lane.
I would start kicking your nominee up the proverbials. Very Hard.
It is a done deal; if you do not fill in the paperwork you go to the back of the queue. If it is voted through, there is no reasonable time limit.
Please let me know any problems, I have read the brick (every page).

[varies] 30/11/2015 17:26

Parvez
I am in the same situation as your son. My shares are held through Barclays Nominees Ltd. They are in a Barclays Stockbrokers MarketMaster account.
Russman told us about 4 weeks ago that he had received the bulky takeover package by post, having got his name (so I understand) onto the share register.
Your son and I are several steps behind him.
Barclays Stockbrokers Corporate Actions Team are in Glasgow whereas Barclays Nominees are in London. The Team have still not received this package but I do not know whether it ever reached the Barclays Nominees. Does your son hold his shares through Barclays ? If so, then he will be in a similar position.
I have given the Team Matt Lane's email and asked them to seek his directions but believe that they have not yet obtained an answer from him. His address is [e-mail]
I am trying to impress upon the Team that this matter is urgent because we are meant to lodge the completed forms "in a timely fashion".
Whether there is a time limit, I do not know.

[parvez] 30/11/2015 15:26

Hi there
Can someone advice. My son holds some shares is Silanis through a Broker Nominee Account. He has had no correspondance from his broker. what should he be doing if anything at all?
cheers

[russman] 26/11/2015 08:23

I have chased Matty for an update.
I can find no other option than collection at the Bank.
5 to 7 week wait. Will not have cash before Xmas.

[varies] 10/11/2015 09:28

Russman
Thank you so much for looking to see if the brick was available on-line.
Like you I am delighted to hear of Matt's confirmation of the 1 for 1 ratio.
I will check my e-mails in a moment to see if he has written to me too.

[russman] 10/11/2015 05:32

Spooky - Matt has emailed.

He confirms
1:1 share exchange for our shares. Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
No sterling payout option : May try and find another Dollar option.

I have posted my signed forms.

[russman] 10/11/2015 04:42

I cannot find the brick online.
I can scan the 2 forms that need signing if that is a help?
1 form is personalised but I am sure you can tippex over.
You could try CST Trust Co although they are only the paying agent.
[e-mail]

[varies] 09/11/2015 09:58

Russman
I wrote to Matt a week ago and have had no reply. Perhaps he is taking a holiday.
I asked him if I could view the offer documents on-line. I cannot see these on either the Silanis or Vasco web-sites.
I will write to him again tomorrow if I hear nothing today and ask him to confirm that we are to receive I Amalco for every SIL share.

[russman] 09/11/2015 06:01

Strange I have not had a reply from Matt.
I asked:-
i) was it a 1:1 share exchange between our shares and Amalco?
ii) are there any options for paying out in Sterling clearing through London?
If anyone else could also email him these queries, we would be very grateful.

[varies] 04/11/2015 10:07

Russman
Many thanks.
I am glad to hear that we get Amalco shares on a 1 for 1 basis.
I will get on to Barclays Stockbrokers again prontissimo

[russman] 04/11/2015 00:43

Well I have read the brick.
It says 1:1 exchange our SIL to Amalco but strange no reconciliation given; I will have to ask Matty for clarification.
Never used Barclays; I would keep a close eye on them, it is a very short timetable.
It is a done deal, we do not have a choice. Get the forms in pronto.
The brick says no Canadian tax payable; I am subject to UK Capital Gains Tax.
Went to Lloyds, there is a 4 page form for non-sterling cheques. Yes it costs, yes it takes 3 weeks. I will ask Matty if there is a sterling option i.e pay out in Jersey to "muddy" the trail. No harm in asking, we are paying their fees.

[varies] 03/11/2015 09:46

Russman and Moosh2
Thank you both so much for your posts.
50p per share is about 10 x what I thought these shares might be worth before news broke of the Vasco deal. Profits for the Silanis Group seemed to be only a distant prospect
I stand many steps behind you since my shares are still held in a Barclays Stockbrokers account but hope that I shall arrive at the same happy destination.

Russman
It would be much appreciated if you could post your conclusion about the conversion rate of SIL into Amalco when you have completed your further study of the papers.

[moosh2] 03/11/2015 09:19

russman!

halfway through the read of it all zzzzzzzzzz. really needs a thorough read though. not liking the indemnity liabilities we're forced to accept but heyho. canadian tax position is sort of explained in the gumpf but i had a look on canada tax agency site and it does go into it a bit more in detail if you look hard enough. i think the bit for Non-resident qualifying shareholders which says no tax is required to be paid - that might be true for Canada tax, but i think tax might still require payment according to the non-resident's own country - that should've been included i think. although the general disclaimer in the pack of 'this is not financial advice' probably covers that. assuming it probably needs declaring somewhere on UK foreign income/cap. gains etc. - i've not really looked yet.

[russman] 02/11/2015 23:34

Yes. Large paper brick gave my Postie a Hernia.
Initial read of headlines seems okay.
I have got to check 1 of our SIL converts into 1 Amalco share.
The offer is US0.77 per Amalco share; less 10c held in escrow (hope to be paid later after adjustments).
Got to double check these forms, they need to be 100% correct.
Got to check the Canadian tax position.
Got to check with my Bank whether they can cope with a very large dollar "deposit". Money Laundering etc, who knows never had this happy problem before.
Happy as Larry.

[varies] 02/11/2015 11:46

Russman
Did America awake today ? Let us hope so, that the news is good for us SNS shareholders and that it comes soon.
The very recent earnings report from Vasco Data Security tells shareholders how pleased their board is with the Silanis Technology acquisition which uses up only part of their spare cash. No suggestion of cold feet there.

[moosh2] 02/11/2015 10:31

eeeek. paperwork. emailed Matt to ask about the withholding tax thing. not entirely sure if the W8BEN form is suitable for Canada and not sure where i'd have to send it to!!

complex

[russman] 27/10/2015 08:54

Hoping for the offer document email today.
When America awakes.