Shell Share Discussion Threads

[sarkasm] 20/11/2017 12:43

calm and silence until OPEC speaks

[waldron] 20/11/2017 11:26

NESTLE SHOULD SHOULD HELP AS WELL

WHAT ELSE

[waldron] 20/11/2017 10:25

CERTAINLY CONTINUES TO TEST THE 2375 SUPPORT

ENJOY YOUR DAY AND WEEK

CHEERS

[sarkasm] 19/11/2017 12:18

LOL

HAVE A SUPER DUPA WEEK

[2hoggy] 19/11/2017 12:09

I had a cousin headhunted to a silicon valley company some years ago and before moving over there he visited and said what an incredible place it was with money being just thrown at problems until they resolved them with the brightest brains available..

He worked in the uk on number plate recognition,trained initially with the forces.

Not a wet week really sarcasm,chuckle..

[sarkasm] 19/11/2017 10:25

as usual hoggy you put a dampner on things




But perhaps they will in time sell their tech sauvy

[2hoggy] 19/11/2017 09:54

They will still lead the world with technology for an awful long time yet.

[sarkasm] 19/11/2017 06:58

Based on OIL, a novel idea that expects USA to be great again


in your dreams america

[ariane] 18/11/2017 22:15

Scrip reference share price announcement date November 23,
2017

Closing of scrip election and currency election (Note 2) December 1,
2017

Pounds sterling and euro equivalents announcement date December 7, 2017

Payment
date
December 20, 2017

[waldron] 18/11/2017 13:43

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS

[grupo guitarlumber] 18/11/2017 13:08

Never mind about kangeroos

its a leaping puma that we should adopt

[grupo guitarlumber] 18/11/2017 10:24

sarkasm
18 Nov '17 - 08:48 - 1543 of 1545 1 0
i popped across to look at the Shell LSE SITE

Not much going on there although i see that you mr gooner has a presence


one has to admit its not as exciting and funny as our advfn site and thread



Sarky

With ADVFN not only is there the quantity,theres quality too

and of course kangeroos,must not forget them

[sarkasm] 18/11/2017 09:23

When will they decide that cap ex will be better spent on drilling for water


when there are more profits to be made of course


sahara is a cavane , veritable aladins cave full of life giving refreshing water




Got camels but no kangeroos

[sarkasm] 18/11/2017 09:17

Aquifer alert: are we drilling to water disaster?
Nov 18 2017 09:00 Mandi Smallhorne

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BURIED deep beneath Saudi Arabia are two fossil treasures: oil, of course, is one. Oil gave Saudi Arabia and other OPEC countries considerable leverage – remember the 1973 oil crisis?

Oil producing countries placed an embargo on oil supplies to the USA, the UK and other countries, including South Africa. By the end of the crisis, in March 1974, the global price of oil had quadrupled, from $3 a barrel to $12.

But Saudi Arabia feared that other countries might turn on it and exploit its weakness, an inability to feed its citizens. So in the 1980s, it decided to tap its other ‘fossil’ resource, water that had collected in an underground aquifer when the region was much wetter, some 20 000 years ago, to grow wheat and other crops.

After all, there were about 500 cubic kilometres of it under the desert, a staggering amount of water.

An estimated four-fifths of that is now gone, three decades or so later. With very little rainfall in the Wadi As-Sirhan basin where the crops are grown (100mm to 200mm annually), the aquifer has not recharged.

“A groundwater account is much like a bank account: if withdrawals exceed deposits, the account shrinks,” writes expert Sandra Postel in her 2017 book, Replenish. “Rarely monitored or regulated, groundwater depletion is the sleeping tiger of global water threats.”

It’s happening all over the world. The enormous Ogallala Aquifer is pumped to grow wheat in Great Plains states like Nebraska, Colorado, Kansas and Texas, producing altogether about one-sixth of the world’s grain. The water in the aquifer has been collecting since the end of the last Ice Age, around 15 000 years ago.

“By the beginning of the 21st century, a third of the world depended on aquifers for drinking water and farming. In China, plagued by drought, the North China Plain aquifer sustains 117 million people in Beijing and surrounding areas. […] aquifers in several of the world’s most productive, heavily populated regions are being drawn down at precipitous rates.

"NASA satellites, monitoring changes in Earth’s gravitational pull, found that 21 of the world’s 37 largest aquifers have passed the sustainable tipping point.”

When news broke that Beaufort West’s dam had run dry, the immediate response on a social media account I belong to was: why isn’t national government providing funds to drill boreholes? We do have large aquifer resources under the Karoo in the Karoo Basin, after all.

It’s a familiar response to water issues in a dry country – echoing Cape Town’s response to its crisis.

So here I am, banging on again about the realities of recharge: “…the recharge in the Karoo formations of South Africa varies between 2 and ∼5% of the annual rainfall”, that is 2% to 5% of an annual rainfall that ranges from 100mm a year in the more westerly and southerly parts to 500mm at best in the more north-east parts of the Central Karoo, and “recharge becomes negligible for rainfall lower than 400 mm” (Beaufort West gets about 160mm per annum, for example).

And that’s now: predictions are that climate change will bring with it significant decreases in rainfall for the Western Cape and Northern Cape; that includes much of the Karoo Basin.

Drill, baby, drill and forget about next year

So do we “drill, baby, drill”, and risk the fate of the Saudi and other global aquifers in pursuit of water now, and never mind next year or the year after?

I say No. Not No to ever drilling – No to doing it blind, risking a resource which could, in the immediate future (I’m thinking the next three decades) be a crucial insurance policy for a country facing hugely uncertain water prospects.

“Poor data is a key problem. Big projects to map groundwater reserves are still ongoing, but there are few measures of how many people are taking water out. The government has traditionally relied on people’s goodwill to hand over that information.

"There is no national control over the drilling of individual boreholes, unless a municipality has a specific bylaw to that effect. Legislation only kicks in when it comes to the industrial use of borehole water. In effect, anyone can drill a hole in the ground and suck up as much water as they want.”

This is too important to mess around with, to do piecemeal and without attention and study. We’ve in effect done it that way for long enough, and where has it got us? Let’s start by making sure we understand what we have and how it’s already being used.

But we also need to have an urgent, transparent, non-partisan and inclusive conversation about water – right now.

Let’s call on everyone (citizens and scientists alike) for thoughts, research, ideas, from the small-scale but effective – water harvesting and greywater use in every house and business – to grand schemes: can we find ways of artificially recharging aquifers, as some places globally are doing with recycled water, for instance?

Should we consider evacuating people from some of the harder-to-supply small towns? Is it at all feasible to direct precipitation from extreme weather events into potential storage spaces underground – and how safe would that be?

Only air is more important than water. In a rapidly changing environment, we simply cannot afford to get it wrong.

Mandi Smallhorne is a versatile journalist and editor. Views expressed are her own. Follow her on Twitter.

[sarkasm] 18/11/2017 08:48

i popped across to look at the Shell LSE SITE

Not much going on there although i see that you mr gooner has a presence


one has to admit its not as exciting and funny as our advfn site and thread

[sarkasm] 18/11/2017 08:43

November 28, 2017 Management Day in London
November 29, 2017 Management Day in New York

Analysts should then beable to give updated views as to future trends and share price targets
by month end

[sarkasm] 18/11/2017 08:12

LOL Phew what long posts

great for a giggle

keep them coming just like the quarterly dividends

[waldron] 18/11/2017 08:06

HOGGY WHAT CAN I SAY

EITHER YOU ARE BUSH

OR YOU ARE ON A SURE WINNER ALLOWING YOU

TO PUT YOUR WINNINGS IN ZE POUCH AND SKIP MERRILY TO THE BANK BY NOEL




IN THE MEANTIME HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND

[waldron] 18/11/2017 07:26

chuckle thanks for that fj Sad NO..................MYOPIC alittle....YEEEEEEEEEEEER

gute morgen,buena dias,bon journo et bonjour

i can really understand your love of history and books especially those about Shell and the OIL INDUSTRY

I too love books and i know we hear NEVER SELL SHELL,in my home its never throw a book
away and at worst find it a new home

LUCKILY WE HAVE SUFFICIENT ROOM AS WE LIVE IN A BARN IN AMBIANCE OF ART so musique and threatre are our pleasure pasttimes

WE HAVE RENOVATED MANY HOUSES OVER THE YEARS SO HAVE COLLECTED MUCH OVER THE YEARS
AS HAVE BOUGHT............. AS IS AND SEEN

SURPRIZING FINDS

WORLD WAR ONE 6 VOLUMED BOOK SERIES THICK AND PICTURED, printed just after the great war

F1 TYRES

OLD TRAIN SETS,COIN COLLECTIONS,STAMP COLLECTIONS ETC ETC ETC

anyway enough of that

i believe that we tend to read and see what we want to see

ignoring even in plain sight the weaknesses and cons of our infactuations


i like to understand both sides of story,TRYING TO GUESS WHETHER IT INDICATES A HEADS UP OR TAILS DOWN. In your case it seems that you have a head on both sides of the coin,




i prefer not only to embrace change but also try to
think outside the box. WHAT IS GREAT, THERE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING NEW TO LEARN

SADLY THE MEDIA NOT ONLY GOES OVER BOARD WITH FALSE,FAKE OR ALTERNATIVE NEWS IT DROWNS ONE IN IT. TODAY WE EVEN CAN READ CONTRADICTORY ARTICLES THE SAME DAY

At present the Darvas range seems to give 2375p to 2475p with a possible downside


I HOPE I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND,EMPATHY AND HUMANITY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME. eye problems do however cause irratic posts. GETTING OLDER SOMETIMES IS NOT SO GREAT


BLAH BLAH BLAH HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND

cant stop

dog to walk
horses and birds to feed and water

[fjgooner] 18/11/2017 00:01

@Waldron,

Good evening from your perceived company sponsor - however, sadly I have no association with that fine company whatsoever. I am merely a shareholder with an interest in its culture and heritage.

First off let's point out the obvious, despite the link above (1535) - both Brent and WTI are moving sharply higher today. That freebie 6% for the Xmas tree looks like its starting to bake itself in already.

Shell will therefore have a great Q4 despite key maintenance and downtime.

However, I like to take some time to reflect, gently, on those events that have come before us. Context informs us well.

On the 18th October, 1957, Shell celebrated its 60th anniversary with a rather nice hardback publication with multiple authors and dozens of colour prints (an extravagance for the time).

You can get a copy of this really nice book at:



Ten years earlier, our Chairman at the time considered that we were too close to the recovery of World War II to feel comfortable enough to commission an extravagant book, so publication was limited to a "brief and modest item".

By 1957, such an item was justifiable and it is a great book to add to a collection - it is a book of superb quality.

And - yes - I know that I am sad.

FJ
:)