Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Scs Upholstery LSE:SUY London Ordinary Share GB0002199924 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 6.50p 0.00p 0.00p - - - 0.00 05:00:10
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
General Retailers - - - - 2.20

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11/3/200909:18SUS 12m cash~7.5m profit~32m mkt cap~downturn overdone?607.00
06/12/200714:19SCS Upholstery - good value play258.00
22/11/200512:32Another for the fundamentalists SCS Upholstery90.00
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27/10/200317:33Co-founder Wylie cashes in his chips!1.00

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21/6/2008
21:20
warrenc: I guess its crunch time for SCS this week . They've got to announce something with regards to fund raising or administration , with month end looming . Looking at LOL i can see there fund raising failing if the share price stays sub 5p .
18/6/2008
23:08
csmwssk1: CSMWSSK1 - 14 Jan'08 - 09:46 - 250 of 512 edit 20% drop in lfl cannot be accomadated by any business what alot of tosh, what do you do ask the landlords to take a 20% cut in rent and the council a 20% cut in business rates, they are fixed costs and are the biggest costs to any retailer, more than wages. kiwihope - 14 Jan'08 - 10:10 - 251 of 512 ... let's just wait and see shall we ... ydderF - 27 Mar'08 - 04:33 - 302 of 512 kiwihope/Arthur L - but inventories have increased by 3.8m, and they have said that the exceptional spend on advertising was all in the first half with benefits in the second (we are already 1/3 into the second half and the statement says confident of profitability in second half). Against this background, if inventories hadn't risen it would be worrying. csmwsski - it is certain the SCS can't go bust by the 31st March, but they may go bust in future, but this possibility seems to be well provided for in the current share price. Looking at the figures and statement I think the company now has time to manage themselves out of the crisis, which is what the statement suggests they are doing....Thing is, if they don't go bust it is likely that this will be a ten bagger over 3/5 years, so as I see it, the play is a bet on the probability of each outcome, even if you believe the odds are 50/50 it is an attractive gamble to a risk seeking investor....we'll see
27/3/2008
04:33
ydderf: kiwihope/Arthur L - but inventories have increased by 3.8m, and they have said that the exceptional spend on advertising was all in the first half with benefits in the second (we are already 1/3 into the second half and the statement says confident of profitability in second half). Against this background, if inventories hadn't risen it would be worrying. csmwsski - it is certain the SCS can't go bust by the 31st March, but they may go bust in future, but this possibility seems to be well provided for in the current share price. Looking at the figures and statement I think the company now has time to manage themselves out of the crisis, which is what the statement suggests they are doing....Thing is, if they don't go bust it is likely that this will be a ten bagger over 3/5 years, so as I see it, the play is a bet on the probability of each outcome, even if you believe the odds are 50/50 it is an attractive gamble to a risk seeking investor....we'll see
20/2/2008
19:42
darrin1471: Historically ScS has always moved on very little volume. Every purchase and sale I've made in ScS has moved the price by 5-20p (The share price was in pounds then). The spread also used to be a killer.
14/1/2008
12:58
rcturner2: Trouble is CR it doesn't matter what your sales are if you are making a loss. Come the interims it could be bad news, making a loss, falling sales, cash turning into debts. If the share price is the sum of future profits at the moment it could still be overvalued.
14/1/2008
08:16
csmwssk1: I warned you all, sell, sell, sell, these are going down and lol share price will go with it.
13/1/2008
18:28
kunalkoth: CR/RC: I did a DCF model on SUY and forecast a brutal 15% decline in revenue this year (2008) and 5% the next, recovering to 2% growth then on to terminal. I prefer to look at free cash flow as this is the only thing that matters, I think. Income statements and balance sheets can be massaged. My free cash flow in 2008 comes £-3.4m and £-1.5m in 2009 rising to £0.4m when sales recover to terminal. Not great, however DCF shows the value of these cash flows to imply a share price of 46p. If you picked up at 40p, you probably got a pretty good deal in my opinion, as my forecast revenue decline and margin squeeze was pretty awful. Having said that, as you say, market doesn't care and will do what it likes no matter what the fair value of an investment is - with this sentiment I think a LoL style warning will mean at least a further 20% decline. I will buy below 40p, anything above that I think is pure speculation and not worth the trouble. I also got hold of the accounts way back till 1998 and found that in the 2003 slowdown SUY wasn't that badly affected. Though this recession is quite a lot different. In summary I think there is some decent value in this below 46p, deducting a margin of safety to make it 40p. I feel the business can still remain solvent as it does have cash and the free cash flow wasn't as terrible for this year as I had envisaged when I first looked at it.
13/1/2008
17:03
cockneyrebel: I'm not sure RC. SCS did £3.8m pre-tax profit in H1 (ex property sales). Looking at the way earnings balance out it looks touch and go for a profit/loss but they will have made a loss in H2 imo. I think the balance sheet cash is enough if they've maintained the sales decline at the AGM statement level or reduced the decline from then. If they have fallen to the LAN 25% sort of decline it's not good. My punt is purely on the Chairman buying £500K worth @ recently and the fact that I think there's 10p of value in these as a bid target for the name and sales hopefully. The worry would be that the Chairman's buy was an attempt to jack up the share price if they need to do a placing or issue. Like I've said, it's a mad bind punt that I can afford to lose. If they still have a load of cash and sales decline is recuced then they could head well north. If it's bad they hae further to fall. One thing I'd add, I reserve the option to sell or buy more shares at any time depending on how I see it at that time - before I told off for selling whenever I do by the investment policeman! CR
05/1/2008
14:10
shiny1000: www.ft.com/myportfolio In summary, I believe many stocks have fallen too far, presenting excellent long-term buying opportunities, although in one or two cases I moved in too early. Let us look at some anomalies comparing what I term "real" worth and current market prices. Take Bodycote, where the Sulzer board was seemingly prepared to pay 346p for a recommended bid in May. "Too little" said Bodycote. Its share price is now 190p. So who got it wrong - the boards or the investors?
31/12/2007
08:41
ydderf: the share price will go nowhere until L and G get rid of their holding...as to LGD - no, just a loss in a year which ended in overall profit - SUY is an INVESTMENT crookney, i.e you buy a wad of the shares and carry on with your life (if you have one outside of footsballs), glancing occasionally over the next 3 years or so at the share price until it reaches your target of a fiver, whereupon you sell and buy a house in the Cote with the profits........
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