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[standish11] 18/9/2018 11:34

Aviation Daily
Rolls Reaffirms A350 Diversion Unrelated To Trent 1000 Issues
Sep 17, 2018 Guy Norris | Aviation Daily
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LOS ANGELES—Rolls-Royce said further inspection of the Trent XWB-84 engine involved in the Sept. 11 diversion of an Iberia-operated Airbus A350-900 to Boston confirms there is no link to the service issues experienced on Trent 1000-family powerplants.

Although Rolls cautioned it is too early to know exactly what caused the inflight shutdown on the flight bound from New York to Madrid, the first for any Trent XWB in service on the A350, the engine maker is believed to be looking closely at engine control or quality issues among possible causes. The aircraft is one of the youngest A350-900s in service, having been delivered at the end of July.

“As a precautionary measure, we have decided to remove this engine for additional examinations. The Trent XWB engine fleet has enjoyed the smoothest entry-into-service of any widebody engine and we continue to see the engine achieving market-leading levels of reliability,” the manufacturer said.

The A350-900 was at 41,000 ft., 70 nm southeast of Halifax, Nova Scotia, when the crew reported they were shutting down the left engine. The aircraft returned for a landing at Boston about 90 min. later.

Rolls is keen to distance any suggestions of a link between the Airbus event and the widely publicized engine problems that have hit the Trent 1000-powered Boeing 787 fleet over the past two years. The Trent XWB architecture is substantially different from that of the Trent 1000, particularly around the intermediate pressure spool which incorporates a two-stage turbine compared to the single-stage unit on the earlier engine.

[minerve] 17/9/2018 11:55

standish

I was just clarifying your situation. Many on ADVFN lambast the FT because they hide behind the refusal to pay the subscription when, as investors, it should be the first place to subscribe IMO.

Maybe rather than lambasting the FT you should be lambasting the tabloids and then the FT will not have to get into the game of trending towards the lowest common denominator.

Nevertheless I have removed the final paragraph, you are quite right, and I am in the wrong.

[standish11] 17/9/2018 10:25

Minerve

I was merely attempting to have a rational discussion about the over reaction in the media regarding the shutdown of the engine. I referred to the FT specifically because I expected it to have more insightful coverage of the incident. The tabloid press also referred to an emergency landing but most people understand that they are in the business of sensationalising stories.
I hope that on reflection you will accept your final paragraph is unworthy of you.

[minerve] 17/9/2018 09:50

standish11

I don't think we can truly pinpoint what caused the sell-off in the market, we can only assume. I personally don't believe the issue was whether it was an emergency or not. I personally believe that is irrelevant to investors. What is important is whether it was engine failure and if so why.

[standish11] 17/9/2018 07:59

Minerve

I agree that the reason for the engine shutdown is the critical factor. By describing the the landing as an emergency when it clearly wasn't augmented the sell off in the market. As Rolls have not issued an RNS relating to the incident suggests to me that there is no reason to suspect a fundamental flaw in the XWB version of the Trent. The engine which was shutdown had only been on the wing for a few months whereas many XWBs have been in service for up to 3 years without incident.

[standish11] 17/9/2018 07:47

Minerva

I agree that the reason for the engine shutdown is the critical factor. By describing the the landing as an emergency when it clearly wasn't augmented the sell off in the market. As Rolls have not issued an RNS relating to the incident suggests to me that there is no reason to suspect a fundamental flaw in the XWB version of the Trent. The engine which was shutdown had only been on the wing for a few months whereas many XWBs have been in service for up to 3 years without incident.

[minerve] 16/9/2018 21:39

standish11

What provoked the sharp drop in the share price was concern that reliability issues maybe extending to other engine models. An engine shut-down or an emergency landing may both signal that this _maybe_ the case. Therefore it is irrelevant whether it was an emergency landing or not. What matters is what causes the emergency landing or the engine shutdown. It is also irrelevant whether the A350 can fly on one engine or not. Rolls-Royce investors want Rolls to sell engines, be reliable and have low cost service, maintenance and repair.

[standish11] 15/9/2018 22:18

Minerva
The reference to an emergency landing is what provoked the sharp drop in the share price Engines are shut down for various reasons which are nor necessarily due to a technical problem e.g. bird strike. The captain did not even declare PAN PAN which is less serious than declaring an emergency.It is also worth bearing in mind that the A350xwb is certified to fly up to 370mins on one engine.

[minerve] 15/9/2018 21:22

Standish

The FT article did state that it was unlikely to be similar to the Trent 1000 issues. Whether the flight made an emergency landing or not is irrelevant. If the engine had to be shut down mid-flight that is enough.

[standish11] 14/9/2018 09:32

Fake news from the FT. The Iberia A350 did not make an emergency landing. The share price reaction over the last couple of days suggests that the engine problem is unlikely to be similar to the Trent 1000 issues.

[minerve] 12/9/2018 17:55

A technical failure in a Rolls-Royce engine forced an Iberia flight bound for New York from Madrid to make an emergency landing at Boston’s Logan airport on Wednesday.

Pilots made an in-flight shutdown of one of the Trent XWB engines with engineers due to examine it later in the day, Rolls-Royce said. - FT

Explains today's share price action.

[dafrog] 10/9/2018 15:19

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[heorot1] 10/9/2018 14:55

Actually, the MQ-25 order is for only 4 aircraft each powered by a RR AE3007N turbofan. Not exactly a big contribution to Rolls' bottom line. Boeing has 6 years to supply the four with deliveries due by 2024. And the prototype hasn't even flown yet.

[dafrog] 06/9/2018 20:25

hxxps://www.rolls-royce.com/media/our-stories/press-releases/2018/06-09-2018-rr-to-power-boeing-mq-25-aircraft-for-us-navy.aspx

[rayrac] 02/9/2018 21:59

Yes, but they need new orders, GE and Prat seem to be taking them. There’s been some lax engineering on their engines sad to say. Can they get it right from here? Got too!

The Obama US isn’t the same as a Trump US..They’ll do anything to push their own!

[dafrog] 31/8/2018 12:50

They do much more than manufacture commercial aircraft engines. Expect USA operations have sold quite a few to military. The Osprey has RR company engines.

[rayrac] 31/8/2018 12:41

I suppose they will eventually sell an engine? It's been months!

[minerve] 28/8/2018 10:19

Rolls-Royce offers data analytic expertise to nuclear reactors - FT

[thecashmoney] 27/8/2018 18:14

Check nuog ,well worth a look if you're looking for growth short term ,deal expected to send it sky ward

[thecashmoney] 27/8/2018 18:13

Just do your own research and ignore the noise is my advice,it's quite obvious that NUOG /MFDEVCO is on the cusp of transformational news .Comms from the company via tweets says negotiations are drawing to a conclusion,last rns from chairman states it's progressing .Recent podcast designed to be non promotional imvho .Think of it like buying a car ,you don't tell the other parties how much you love it ,you say it needs new tyres , exhaust is on its way out etc ,you want the best deal possible . According to my research it's a win win win for all involved. OSX-3 owners want more from their asset , dommo current operators need cash revenue to raise to develop other assets.Mfdevco obviously will be truly transformational as the podcast states it will put mfdevco in a very forward position,with most of the steps allready completed,alot of money has already been spent and will put this company in a very advanced state compared to its current market capitalisation.CM

[sbs] 09/8/2018 22:58

If Warren East keeps fixing things, this will continue to go up in fits and starts.

The coming recession will help oil prices down and air cost and profits disproportionately... And the global instability will help military sales.

Maybe it will slip before it goes back up, for those who want to gamble on news flow.

[robs12] 03/8/2018 19:49

"a period of outperformance vs market for next few years".
Absolutely agree. I will probably buy back in at some point.

[grahamburn] 03/8/2018 19:39

True, but then he wouldn't have been able to make a purchase over the past few weeks.