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[dlg3] 28/3/2017 01:08

2017 FINALISTS
After a rigorous adjudication process, the esteemed Africa Energy Awards judging panel has shortlisted finalists for all categories at the awards.

African Energy Leader of the Year
Mahama Kappiah, Director, ECOWAS Centre for Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency (ECREEE), Cape Verde

Gerrie Bronkhorst, General Manager, Eskom - Clean Technologies, Group Capital, South Africa

Bartholomew Simiyu, Director - Energy Projects Camco Clean Energy, Kenya

[tullynessle] 27/3/2017 21:32

Industry news.......



Independent (Ireland)

Monday 27 March 2017

Ireland's race against time to avoid €360m EU renewables fine

This year will be a defining one for the energy sector - and the threat of hefty fines for missing EU targets has focused minds, writes Simon Rowe

With the Government in a race against time to avoid a potential €360m fine from the EU for failing to hit renewables targets, 2017 looks set to be a defining year for the country's energy sector.
If Ireland fails to meet a binding target of generating 16pc of energy from wind, solar, biomass and other renewable sources within three years, a penalty of up to €120m will be imposed by the EU for every 1pc the State falls below target.
The clock is ticking down to the 2020 deadline and Minister for Climate Action Denis Naughten is under pressure to implement policies to help avoid or reduce the potential bill facing Irish taxpayers.

Ireland is only halfway towards meeting its targets, with just 8.6pc of energy consumption derived from renewables.
Even in a best-case scenario, experts predict the State will fall short by 3pc, leading to a significant bill.

Article continiues.....

[dlg3] 27/3/2017 17:39

net we already power cars by coal its called oil....

For decades, scientists have known how to convert coal into a liquid that can be refined into gasoline or diesel fuel

[vatnabrekk] 27/3/2017 16:41

PHE and AFC are teaming up later this year to produce electricity from waste. I have shares in both.

[luminoso] 27/3/2017 16:04

Have PHE got their act together now, shavian ? I gave up on them a year or more back and have not followed the story. I feel happier here and at VRS, thats for sure.

[netcurtains] 27/3/2017 15:02

....cont..
To buy shares in the new coal powered car:

To purchase shares in Cyclone Power Technologies, please contact a registered broker. The symbol is CYPW and is traded on the OTCQB.

[netcurtains] 27/3/2017 13:46

i know this sounds daft - but would it be possible to power a car using coal?

I mean there is zillions of tons of the stuff just lying there all over the planet.
Might as well use it.

From the net:

In the 1990s, a Volkswagen R&D spin-off called Enginion claimed it had built a steam engine that had comparable efficiency to ICEs, but with lower emissions. In recent years, Cyclone Technologies claims it has developed a steam engine that’s twice as efficient as an ICE. As of today, though, neither engine has found its way into a commercial vehicle.

[shavian] 27/3/2017 12:59

Guys, thanks for the excellent research and the civilised debate. There's an interesting sideshow to this starting to emerge at PHE, whose demonstration landfill-to-gasification unit will shortly be established at the Thornton Science Park of University of Chester. This will also produce energy as a by-product, which could easily be stored by RED in future. Meanwhile Cambridge Nanosystems have derived a practical method of producing graphene from Natural gas.

So we could soon have poo>energy>gas>graphene! What fun.

Edit: just doubled my holding in RED

[pugugly] 27/3/2017 12:26

dig3:> A lot of excellent posts - and good database. Re ITM - Originally invested at float at 50p and with luck (largely as felt over hyped sold in the £2.00 - £3:00 area) Just hold a small rump to allow me to kick current management who (imo) are failing to gain traction - Their conversion of surplus wind/solar power to Hydrogen appears to offer a solution equalising supply and demand BUT is power wasteful - Hence my interest in REDT and need for data on cost effeectiveness before moving - I trust you can see where I am coming from. Too many have tried too many different technologies in this area only to crash and burn.

[dlg3] 27/3/2017 12:07

So as you see Hydrogen a non starter and of no threat to REDT...and $500 billion for the USA alone would buy a lot of storage machines with out building a transportation system to transport the fuel..

[dlg3] 27/3/2017 12:04

Once the technical hurdles are crossed, hydrogen's huge price tag may still make the technology prohibitive. A recent analysis by the Department of Energy projected that a supply network adequate for even 40 percent of the light-duty fleet could cost more than $500 billion. And that leads to a classic chicken-and-egg problem: How do you get millions of Americans to buy hydrogen-powered vehicles before there's an infrastructure in place to refuel them? And how do you get energy companies to build that infrastructure before there's a potential customer base?

[dlg3] 27/3/2017 12:03

PUGUGLY due diligence is very important, but it would appear you need to alter your approach as you invested in IMT even after your research...they have been messing around with hydrogen for the last 50 years in cars, but you only have to look at the Germans and their zeplins and look what happened to them !!!

[dlg3] 27/3/2017 11:57

HURDLE 2: Storage

At room temperature and pressure, hydrogen's density is so low that it contains less than one-three-hundredth the energy in an equivalent volume of gasoline. In order to fit into a reasonably sized storage tank, hydrogen has to be somehow squeezed into a denser form.

LIQUEFACTION: Chilled to near absolute zero, hydrogen gas turns into a liquid containing one-quarter the energy in an equivalent volume of gasoline. The technology is well-proven: For decades, NASA has used liquid hydrogen to power vehicles such as the space shuttle. The cooling process requires a lot of energy, though-roughly a third of the amount held in the hydrogen. Storage tanks are bulky, heavy and expensive.

COMPRESSION: Some hydrogen-powered vehicles use tanks of room-temperature hydrogen compressed to an astounding 10,000 psi. The Sequel, which GM unveiled in January 2005, carries 8 kilograms of compressed hydrogen this way-enough to power the vehicle for 300 miles. Refueling with compressed hydrogen is relatively fast and simple. But even compressed, hydrogen requires large- volume tanks. They take up four to five times as much space as a gas tank with an equivalent mileage range. Then again, fuel cell cars can accommodate bigger tanks because they contain fewer mechanical parts.

[dlg3] 27/3/2017 11:55

HURDLE 1: Production

The United States already uses some 10 million tons of hydrogen each year for industrial purposes, such as making fertilizer and refining petroleum. If hydrogen-powered vehicles are to become the norm, we'll need at least 10 times more. The challenge will be to produce it in an efficient and environmentally friendly way.

FOSSIL FUELS: At present, 95 percent of America's hydrogen is produced from natural gas. Through a process called steam methane reformation, high temperature and pressure break the hydrocarbon into hydrogen and carbon oxides — including carbon dioxide, which is released into the atmosphere as a greenhouse gas. Over the next 10 or 20 years, fossil fuels most likely will continue to be the main feedstock for the hydrogen economy. And there's the rub: Using dirty energy to make clean energy doesn't solve the pollution problem-it just moves it around. "As a CO2 reducer, hydrogen stinks," Romm says.

Capturing that carbon dioxide and trapping it underground would make the process more environmentally friendly. In July, General Electric and BP Amoco PLC announced plans to develop as many as 15 power plants over the next 10 years that will strip hydrogen from natural gas to generate electricity; the waste carbon dioxide will be pumped into depleted oil and gas fields. And the Department of Energy is largely funding a 10-year, $950 million project to build a coal-fed plant that will produce hydrogen to make electricity, and likewise lock away carbon dioxide to achieve what it bills as "the world's first zero-emissions fossil fuel plant."

Whether carbon dioxide will remain underground in large-scale operations remains to be seen. In addition, natural gas is a limited resource; the cost of hydrogen would be subject to its price fluctuations.

[dlg3] 27/3/2017 11:52

HYDROGEN WAS JUST A DELAY TACTIC....

At first glance, hydrogen would seem an ideal substitute for these problematic fuels. Pound for pound, hydrogen contains almost three times as much energy as natural gas, and when consumed its only emission is pure, plain water. But unlike oil and gas, hydrogen is not a fuel. It is a way of storing or transporting energy. You have to make it before you can use it — generally by extracting hydrogen from fossil fuels, or by using electricity to split it from water.

And while oil and gas are easy to transport in pipelines and fuel tanks — they pack a lot of energy into a dense, stable form — hydrogen presents a host of technical and economic challenges. The lightest gas in the universe isn't easy to corral. Skeptics say that hydrogen promises to be a needlessly expensive solution for applications for which simpler, cheaper and cleaner alternatives already exist. "You have to step back and ask, 'What is the point?'" says Joseph Romm, executive director of the Center for Energy & Climate Solutions.

[dlg3] 27/3/2017 11:48

link here .... it is very interesting to watch..

[dlg3] 27/3/2017 11:41

pugugly only fools would invest in hydrogen, although it does have its market, Hydrogen takes more power to produce than it gives in return, so why go to the trouble of producing renewable power then converting it back to electricity, when each time you convert you suffer loss..just store it in a battery until you need it !!!!.. hydrogen was pushed by the oil majors because they knew it was a non starter...take a look at a film called "who killed the electric car"....Exxon mobile spent 100,s of million $$$$ trying to stop renewables taking hold.....they still are !!!

Exxon lobbying: New documents reveal push against electric cars ..

Exxon is lobbying the UK government to stop them pushing for electric vehicles as a way of tackling climate change or air pollution, according to documents obtained under Freedom of Information rules (FOI) by DeSmog UK.

The documents reveal the firm lobbied UK transport department officials in three separate presentations given after the UK signed up to the Paris agreement on climate change last year.

[pugugly] 27/3/2017 11:10

dig3: No wings - neither short nor long - Looking for coys with momentum sales of profitable products - i.e. Long IQE - having been stuffed by ITM. Hence DD reseach on REDT If it works then I am missing a great opportunity but at the moment keeping powder dry.

[dlg3] 27/3/2017 10:54

PUGUGLY If you feel that way I would sell up if I was your good self... oh I forgot you are the Angel sent to protect the innocent and your reward will be your wings...not the short you currently have !!!!

Good luck either way....

[dogrunner11] 27/3/2017 10:53

Confidentiality agreements

[pugugly] 27/3/2017 10:50

If I was think of installing one of their power systems I would require it - or they would not get an order - Same applies to buying their shares - The lack of information makes this (for me) a no go area. Off to find a deeper data pool.


PS. It is their kit so I cannot see how they can hide behind client confidntiality - Possibly something missing in their sales contracts.

[vatnabrekk] 27/3/2017 10:08

My reading of this is that the data belongs to the client, not to RedT, so legally RedT cannot divulge it?

[fieldhouse] 27/3/2017 09:51

PUG,
This is new technology. redt do not want the competitors to know the state of play.
The same applied to PDNC. Nothing wrong with that stance.

In the Telegraph this am.
National Grid are to change their strategy to reduce demand when there is excess solar and wind.They will pay large consumers .45p kw to use more at peak production times.
It will save building several new gas power stations.
We are clearly into a phase of power shift and conservation.
Battery storage will have a huge part to play.

[pugugly] 27/3/2017 09:36

To me this phrase "We cannot share client data from Gen 1 market seeding sites" is the KILLER. Message received (but probably not intended) is that there are problems. If successful then (imo) they should be shouting from the rooftops - "We have a success" I will say no more!!