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RAF Real Affinity

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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Real Affinity LSE:RAF London Ordinary Share GB0030285596 ORD 0.1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 0.01 0.00 01:00:00
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Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
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Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
- O 0 0.01 GBX

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30/8/201023:43Remember the Polish Pilots of the Battle of Britain33
07/6/201023:20Real Affinity - 2007 the recovery year1,473
08/2/200914:53Join the RAF - NOW !!8
16/7/200711:28REAL AFFINITY - PRICE WILL DOUBLE - BUY NOW !!73
04/6/200723:22RAF - A New Future2,417

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Posted at 26/8/2010 21:55 by saturdaygirl
Gutted i have something in common with you , but respect is due to the Poles who joined ~ the RAF to fly our fighters



Poles and the plane
Posted at 26/8/2010 21:49 by loverat
One in eight RAF pilots were Polish.
Posted at 07/6/2010 22:34 by demac
Hello, anybody out there?

I've had a friend who owns shares in Real Affinity contact me about a call he had from a Canadian Mergers & Acquisitions company which claims to be buying out Real Affinity on behalf of a client company. However, on checking out this M&A company's website it looks very suspicious with links which don't activate and "up-to-date" business news links which are more than a year old.

This company has emailed my friend with proforma documentation on his share holding to complete and return. Intially a representative of this company had phoned him to say that they already held 41% of the stock and needed to gain 51% to take control. Incidentally the price this guy talked about was anywhere between 3p and 18p a share!!!!!

Anyone else had a similar call?
Posted at 01/5/2009 00:19 by dweagle
who they? has RAF changed name?
Posted at 03/3/2009 14:00 by lord santafe
At the time when Real Affinity was going to be taken over by Langbar for 0.45p, speculators where wondering if they should be buying into RAF or LGB. From the perfomance of both suspended shares, the better option would of been Langbar.
Posted at 04/10/2008 11:31 by johnmp
does it make much difference the when, I assume you could sell RAF on the PLUS market but doubt if you will ever get a good price unless someone buys RAF out?

Its a very long wait now, if we have any luck RAF may be reborn in 2/3 years on the aim market, especially if they ever make a profit. One question is have they split up or is it the same old RAF? As far as I can see we have payed off using shares (right now worthless?) and I assume that means RAF is still one company?
Posted at 04/2/2008 13:34 by the_owl
They won't get loans at this valuation, a placing is a definite no no (even if as part of a consolidation). So what to do ...? IMO a low share price with lots of fund & Director interest above is actually quite a good motivator to sort the issues..but how?? They've left it very late, but at least are making an effort to do something ...and they still have a prestigious client base if only they can pull the right levers.


My solution FWIW:

1) They need an AIM shell company (or partner) to confidently invest in RAF to more quickly help them see at least some of the 1.20p value another company saw 2 years ago when an offer was made. Could they for example partner Banks Sadler if they cannot compete?

2) They need a portion of a major corp. hospitality venture e.g. the Olympics, 6 nations rugby, or other big event.

3) They need existing clients to expand ala WH Smith

4) They need to demonstrate what they say (i.e. profits post Mar 2008) suffcieint to cover costs and show the 50% margin they are supposed now to be making as said in previous RNS. Last year achieving 29% was quite commendable.

5) They need analysts to independently give a view and share price target. Is RAF cheap vs its peers? No one knows. A sub par share price is not necessarily cheap if one cannot see the future improving. Nothing RAF has said suggests the level of confidence & integrity they need to show even to get back to par value.

6) Finally they need to be accurate - specially on short announcements such as this. It does no one any favours when an events company cannot even get their web address correct. Sorry, am I the only one spotting that??

Johnmp - as you say its a waiting game now. I think (looking at volumes bought/sold in last year) there are few sellers left. But then not many buyers either.

Still holding.
Posted at 04/1/2008 09:56 by the_owl
Johnmp,
comment was in relation to an RTO. There's no way RAF could place shares or do sleective acquisitions now as the management appear not to trusted (hence the price) - management are responsible for the share price - they cnnot just bl;ame the markets.

RAF want to grow but share price is too low to raise cash, and its hard to win new business (though they did see some success last year).
An RTO whereby they relaunch a new company by taking over/merging with another profitable one (possibly a Ltd co rather than a Plc) would be one way to build scale & profitability. The other company gains in terms of a float, cuts costs and in other ways.

The new shares would float at the audited value/potential value of the combined entity regardless of RAF's existing price - problem solved, everyone happy.

(Ps I have no info this is what they'll do, but it is a clear possibility, and the folks involved in RAF have seen this work elsewhere)
Posted at 02/1/2008 19:02 by johnmp
They took out the loan facility above 0.1p share price At the time that was a good price, since then they have seen the share price fall. If they can cancel this loan facility and then start a new one with a rebased share price then it would be in the best interest of Ross to do so, but not in the best interest of the shareholders. This agreement was signed and sealed at that price, if the share price had gone up 3 fold he would be laughing all the way to the bank. Instead its gone down by 2/3rds so he cries for a rebasing of the share price so he does not loose any money.

Now, as a shareholder I think its wrong. Why I think its illigal is because an agrement had been made and just because its no longer in his favour he wants to renogotiates. He as had ways of getting more by making RAF work.
Posted at 14/12/2007 16:02 by the_owl
Knowing,

it's not the amounts - it's the liquidity, and the trend.

There's no point in taking big positions in small stocks (which one needs to do with micro-cap's) at non-competitive prices (large spreads).

Yes, it looks cheap & the sums involved are peanuts relatively - but it also did so at 0.3p.

The management are not sufficiently demonstrating the qualities we need to set a trend in the share price at these prices (which is why the price is where it is). I believe its (mainly) a communications issue possibly not so much a fundamental business issue.

If you look at Brent's & Bankside's other companies you'll see the same problems and the same non-addressing of them, leading to the same shaped share charts.
If they wnat to be business men, and not give 2 to the shareholders - then so be it. However, they cannot then blame investors for the low share price which ensues when they want, and need to raise cash & if investors sell early. In a way. a lower share price is safer as it avoids investors being exploited - too much - specially when Mr Ross & other bigger entities have share positions at a much higher share price as they do. We'd like to make some profits from our risk too please.

The best way forward maybe for another company to close the gaps that clearly exist in the communications, and then seek to tap the companies' potential.

RAF have said themselves the shares are not attractive (hence the reason for the steps they will take soon as per RNS). When they address this issue & show a clear & credible earnings path on their c£19m t/o, I'll be happy to be more reckless with my share purchases. Till then its a "scale in and buy the dips" strategy.

All comes down to confidence in the end, and the share price tell's it's own story so wise to be cautious (IMO)
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