Provexis Share Discussion Threads

[librag] 20/12/2016 11:03

So, next step is a phase 1 trial which shouldn't be too expensive. Please please please have a JV set up soon.

Reality check ... for those lucky enough to have normal blood pressure ... say 120/80, dropping by 20mm Hg systolic puts them in the falling over range.

I'll be taking partial profits in a little while. GL.

[gunsofmarscapone] 20/12/2016 10:39

Hi Bernie

I have been accumulating here for a few years now but literally doubled holdings after the last share dilution. Its impossible to always achieve an optimised entry to a share but I really felt that the inflexion point had been reached. So now I have my final holding nicely in the green.

That is the back story for my involvement, I had been taking fruitflow rather sporadically for several years in FF1 form ie Sirco, FF2 optiflow, another rather large tab which I discontinued and now, FF2 plus Omega 3 daily for about eight months (approx) direct from Provexis.

My systolic pressure was hovering at 130-135 in May but now is always and consistently 115-120 so therefore I was not as you will understand, in high blood pressure but in pre-high blood pressure. Nonetheless I can confirm that FF2 has almost definitely contributed to my extremely good improvement in blood pressure particularly now that we can show a highly significant clinically proved benefit.

Yes one or two lifestyle improvements have no doubt helped but a 20 point reduction in under two months is imo, an absolutely stellar result.

I now have 2.1 mil fully paid up shares and a small derivate long position in Pxs which I will never relinquish, or rather I might let a few go at 20p+ or retain for dividends should that be the decision of the board eventually.

O/T but my other buying targets are Sxx (no rush) and Red (Vanadium flow batteries) which I have traded twice in the past year. Some commodities also, perhaps associated with the above tickers....

[senor_sensible] 20/12/2016 07:50

Blood pressure update, promising results, more work required to get optimum dosage, should see some interest on the Shares today :-)

[wheelds] 19/12/2016 23:42

Magazine then goes on to the benefits of Fruitflow plus omega 3 and videos and where to buy from:-

[wheelds] 19/12/2016 23:21

Good coverage of the benefits of our Fruitflow in this magazine:-

[librag] 16/12/2016 15:45

Bernie and guns; if you've increased your walking at the same time as starting FF, you can't say anything. Should have been a lazy git like me for another 6 weeks. :)

I'm sure you know, exercise drops BP. Good news for guns either way.

[bareknee] 16/12/2016 14:32

Guns

Aye, the BP results should be interesting

What's the change in your systolic been in the last six weeks ? By that I mean what are the actual numbers rather than the delta ? I think the trial was concentrating on people with systolic values >= 135 so it's be interesting to see where you fit in relative to that.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you start taking Fruitflow ? Was it reading about it on here or something else ?

[gunsofmarscapone] 16/12/2016 12:08

Incredible really but Pxs almost equal to my other best performer in the porty, Bor.

I think we could see another considerable uplift on BP trial results unless; the info has already leaked and the share price has this built in already. Personally my BP is 15 points lower (systolic) after consuming fruitflow for six weeks however walking has increased to 90-120 mins a day from about 20 mins so may not be clinically significant.

[wheelds] 16/12/2016 02:43

"The strategic collaboration agreement between DSM and BY-HEALTH will focus on the development of new products that contribute to cardiovascular health, to include the establishment of relevant evaluation and testing procedures to accord with Chinese technical and regulatory standards."

[wheelds] 16/12/2016 02:33

Hoping with results next week we will get a clearer picture as to collaboration deal with China health company- In my opinion:-

First priority will be lowering production costs now we are in China and that's what DSM is up too. IMHO
And if DSM can Improve our profits relative to over heads we are on our way to become profitable, and that's what DSM's business plan in China is seeking to achieve for us IMHO (as DSM is already a profitable company.)
Supply must meet demand and in China there's plenty of Tomatoes at a much lower cost then in Europe.
So Partner up with a Chinese company and its factories to produce our Fruitlow plus omega 3 etc. at a much lower cost then at present.
Then around March time 2017 also support the re-launch of our Sirco drink across Europe and China and increase advertising in China etc. of the benefits of our Fruitlfow now passing the Chinese code of practise on top of the European Food Safety Agency code of high standards.
And if all goes to plan from March 2017 supply of our Sirco, Fruitflow plus etc. and even new Fruitflow products now produced in China at a lower cost DSM/PXS will be able to meet increased demand and DSM will be doing a good job in getting Provexis into a profitable company much quicker so they can then, withing their rules, put in a good offer to buy Provexis out.IMHO
Or DSM and the Chinese company collaboration deal is aimed at buying us out.IMHO

[bareknee] 15/12/2016 18:23

Wheelie remortgaged his house ten years ago and invested in PXS ( when the share price was north of 3p ). It's now less than a penny

Fair play to him if he's spotted the peaks and troughs and sold and bought accordingly to turn a profit on the proceeds from remortgaging his house, but, if it smells fishy it's generally a fish :)

Nuff said

BB

[lafin] 15/12/2016 17:16

re my last post,

Mr Wheelbarrow was going on and on about a fruitflow product in Finland called FreeStream.
These were the reviews on the website(When I typed" going on about" I meant he put up links that didn't work to a product with not very positive reviews and I found it amusing.
It's not worth looking up.

[wheelds] 15/12/2016 15:42

EXCELLENT REVIEWS ON THIS SITE!



Hoping for interim results next week and hoping for news on just how we are really doing.

[librag] 15/12/2016 15:16

la finland;
Have you started the Xmas tipple early? I don't know WTF you're on but I'll have a shot of it.

[lafin] 15/12/2016 11:01

Finland is a not a large country.
Only 2 reviews.
" Arvioiden lukumäärä: 2
Arvioiden keskiarvo: 2,5
Huomaamaton vaikutus (26.7.2016)
En osaa kertoa, mitä lisähyötyä tuote tuo. Tosin en ole syönyt kuin neljä pakettia näitä kapseleita.
Hyvä tuote (15.1.2016)
Tuote hyvä, mutta saamani paketti oli niin vanha, että parasta ennen päivä on mennyt ennenkuin paketti on loppu. Eihän näin voi olla. Tuskin enää voi nettikauppaa käyttää"
.
translation lol
"Number of ratings: 2
Average rating: 2.5
Unobtrusive effect (07/26/2016)
I can not tell you what additional benefits the product brings. Admittedly, I have not eaten like four packets of these capsules.
A good product (15/01/2016)
Product good, but I received the package was so old that the best before date has passed until the package is finished. Surely this can not be. Hardly no longer be able to use online trading."

[librag] 15/12/2016 10:09

Bernie, better still, tell him to avoid every key on his keyboard.
:)

[bareknee] 15/12/2016 09:48

Wheelie

just use caps for http ffs !

eg

[wheelds] 15/12/2016 01:14

hxxp://www.life.fi/FreeStream
thats http

"Freestream Fruitflow WSTCII"
(2)
"26,90 €"

"hxxp://www.life.fi/epages/life.sf/fi_FI/?ObjectPath=/Shops/HLT/Categories/Myymalat"
thats http

"hxxp://www.life.fi/epages/life.sf/fi_FI/?ObjectPath=/Shops/HLT/Categories/Myymalat"
thats http
they have an awful lot of shops selling our Fruitflow

[senor_sensible] 14/12/2016 08:08

Hi Libra, keep topping up on dips and selling on peaks with AGL, doing ok with it.

Looks like PXS has found new baseline, lets hope it moves to next level and consolodate there, resistance along the way but long term should be ok

[librag] 13/12/2016 12:01

Morning SS.
I'll stick my neck out and say that the memory trial will fail. It's not that FF might not have an effect it's just that the trial design is underwhelming.
Hope I'm wrong though.

Thoughts on AGL? I topped up again just on yesterday's low (nice aim for a change).

[librag] 13/12/2016 11:56

Saw this (see below) on the other channel ...
Worth saying that if (and it probably will) FF has antihypertensive effects, there will be a huge opportunity and a huge risk.
Blood pressure is a clinical endpoint and as such, pharmaceutical-grade clinical trials will be needed before any medically viable claim can be made. EFSA will have nothing to do with it. However, I suppose it might be possible to say that FF "helps maintain normal blood pressure" and then we're in similar territory to blood flow claims. Hence a slghtly better overall claim than currently.

There's no doubt in my mind that FF will be able to claim an effect on blood pressure mechanisms. But here's the rub. If blood pressure itself is affected, then side effects and dose range must be considered and that will warrant proper clinical trials. Early phase trials aren't too expensive but the later ones certainly are. This is a JV waiting to happen and hopefully we won't try to go it alone. We don't have the expertise and it will cost huge sums. So PXS will be looking for money and we'll have to have lots of patience. The rewards however could be substantial. Just my 10p's worth.
GL.

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10:01
BP Proof of Principal Study
DrHorrible
What are peoples views regarding the next steps following the blood pressure proof of principle study of 12 people.

Assuming a positive outcome,

What studies would be required next and for what purpose?
How many study subjects/people would be required?
How long would they take?
What would be required to obtain EFSA health claim?

I'm sure the next steps will be included in the results RNS.

[bareknee] 13/12/2016 11:44

SS

Not seen anything.
DSM put



the above on their site a couple of weeks ago about a similar trial, but that one didn't include Fruitflow

[senor_sensible] 13/12/2016 09:39

Any update from this trial yet?
hxxps://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01766180

[wheelds] 13/12/2016 01:51

With all this media coverage and the China collaboration deal, and the fact that governments around the world, including China and America are getting concerned about the cost of caring for patience suffering from heart problems; and with our interims due this December 2016, lets hope all is good for share price to reflect the potential of our Fruitflow healthy blood circulation product in the global market world of today.

[wheelds] 13/12/2016 01:39

Article 12/12/2016 promoting the benefits of our Fruitflow.
It seems according to article, more people suffer from heart problems in cold weather.

hxxp://dispatchweekly.com/2016/12/cold-weather-can-affect-blood-circulation/
that http