Preston Nth.End Share Discussion Threads

[porksword] 09/2/2002 16:56

No Comment!!

LOL!

[bionicdog] 09/2/2002 16:49

does anyone have an opinion on how a defeat at the hands of chelsea would affect the share price?

[spud mackenzie] 28/5/2001 07:14

Come on Preston, show those Bolton boys how it's done today!!!

Good Luck to all PNE followers!

(Sorry it's not a financial post.)

[honister] 27/5/2001 20:52

The huge prize for the club winning promotion to the Premiership makes tomorrow's playoff final even more crucial, says Peter Sharkey




Playoff winner will hit the jackpot




FOR one side in tomorrow's First Division playoff final, the concluding act of the Football League season will signal entry into the ultimate footballing plutocracy, the Premiership.
The financial bonanza is within touching distance for Bolton and Preston, one of whom will be guaranteed a minimum of nearly £11m by gaining promotion. This figure excludes money to be earned from television appearances, gate receipts and a decent cup run.

Unusually, each of the sides involved in the playoff final is an integral part of plcs quoted on the stock market. Indeed, so impressive have Preston's on-field performances been since mid-March that the plc's share price has outperformed the FTSE index over the same period. This is a far cry from August last year, when the club sought to raise £7.5m by floating on the Alternative Investment Market; instead it raised just £1.75m and had to delay the flotation.

In financial terms, Preston is the smaller of tomorrow's Cardiff combatants; its latest accounts show a turnover of £3.37m, of which 99.7% (£3.36m) was spent on wages. Should the Premiership ultimately beckon, few, if any, Preston players could expect to earn in excess of six figures.Preston would, if promoted, have one of the smallest grounds in the Premiership, with attendances reduced further as Deepdale's South Stand is redeveloped.

Meanwhile, Bolton's last submitted accounts show that it spent £8.6m of its £12.5m turnover (69%) on wages. Its modern Reebok Stadium has coped comfortably with the demands of the First Division. The club has already committed itself to freezing season ticket prices to increase average attendances beyond this year's disappointing 16,000.

By gaining automatic promotion, Fulham and Blackburn have already guaranteed themselves a share of Premier League riches and a collection of revenue sources that could be more adequately described as raging torrents rather than streams.

Take prize money; for the Premier League season just ended, more than £70m was distributed to each club in increments of £336,422 according to final League position. Manchester United finished with £6.7m while Bradford collected £336,422. Next season, the incremental increase will be nearer £550,000; the 2001-02 champions can expect to earn more than £11m in prize money.

Premiership clubs also receive an equal share of the League's centralised revenues; this season's total was £125m, or £6.3m each. The latest BSkyB contract, which starts in August, will raise the value of this equal share to £10.3m.

Overall, the minimum revenue distribution to clubs during season 2001-02 will be £10.87m, or 43% more than Fulham's gross turnover for the year ended June 2000.

Live and recorded television income will add further to the pot of a promoted club. Each can expect an increase on the £523,014 paid to both sides playing in a live game; current estimates are that this figure will rise to £857,000. Even recorded highlights, worth £53,290 to Premier League sides this season will, under the terms of the new ITV contract, be worth nearer £87,000 next term.

[no1jacko] 01/5/2001 15:41

There is no great investment value in PNE. Most shares in the issue last summer were bought by fans on the understanding that they would make little if any money out of them and on the understanding that there would be no dividend for three years. The issue was also heavily undersubscribed.
I got in at £4 six years ago and sold at £5.85 after they won promotion to Div 2. I see little opportunity for such good returns in the near term.

As long as they make it to the Prem I shall be happy, although I believe they could cling on and not be relegated immediately. Their squad is highly organised and motivated plus in their manager David Moyes they have a highly ambitious boss who has strong support from a prudent forward thinking chairman in Bryan Gray. Don't bet against them. Yes I too am a PNE fan

[barnabee] 24/4/2001 15:39

Arthurp8,

Refer to ahkeen's post. I think that the promotion possibility is already priced in anyway. Your not going to make any big money off it antway. Look at more under-valued stocks which took an un-fair turn for the worse when the market dipped e.g. Chorion, Scoot, etc.. Happy investing. P.S. This is all coming from a P.N.E. fan!

[ahkeen] 24/4/2001 15:23

Arthurp8,

Leeds United are valued at £34 million, I believe.

They have several playes worth £15-20 million EACH, are in the semi finals of the Champions league, in a good position to qualify for Europe next year, (Champions League on 2 fronts, ie winning it, or 3rd place in Premier League) have a massive fan base, and own their own ground.

On that basis I wonder what PNE can really be worth, even if they do achieve promotion?

Best regards,

Andy.

PS can Bournemouth have Steve Robinson back please?

[arthurp8] 24/4/2001 15:13

Up 7.5p on two days trading totalling 881 shares

[ahkeen] 24/4/2001 00:32

Arthurp8,

Blackburn will go straight up IMHO.

Play offs, possibly, PNE, W.Brom, Bolton, and Birmingham.

Play offs are a total lottery, favouring teams that finish the season on a strong run. Burnley and Wimbledon still cannot be discounted for this reason.

Current form suggests PNE have as much chance as anyone via the play offs.

Personally, IF PNE were promoted, I cannot see them being more successful than Bradford this season. One for the brave I think.

Andy.

[stevo123] 23/4/2001 16:34

don't forget that they are guaranteed the big Sky circa £8m for the year they go up, each year they are there AND the first season after they go down. So, even if they go up and bounce straight down again they still benefit to the tune of over £15m over two seasons. That was the Watford gamble - go up, spend nothing, go down immediately and hope to return with a team strengthended by Sky's cash. Hasn't quite worked that way so far but not a bad strategy nonetheless.

[arthurp8] 23/4/2001 16:19

But Barnabee how can they be overvalued at a market cap of only 7 million. That values them at under 15 million, and of they made it into the premiership even if they were relegated straight away they would benefit to the tune of at least 8-10 million pounds. Not only that but they are a team that alreay gets decent gates.

[barnabee] 23/4/2001 09:29

The PNE shares are way over-valued. They were released at £4.50 and have slowly gone down from there. They might go up a bit if they get promotion, but get out when they do!

[arthurp8] 23/4/2001 08:33

I have seen numerous threads on footballing stocks, however none on Preston North End. Now after there 3-2 win yesterday against the underachieving Watford they are virtually guaranteed a play off spot. As ever the play offs are an eventful thing, however they have an outside chance of promotion to the premiership. Granted there run in includes both Blackburn and West Brom, but they could well face both of these teams in the playoffs. Yet there share price has fallen from 240 to 212. I would have thought that the 1 in 4 chance of promotion should have seen a surge in price due to anticipation.
Since Preston only got promoted last season no-one would have expected them to perform as well as they have, and even if they do not gain success in the playoffs then they will definitely be there or thereabouts next season.

I do not currently hold any Preston shares, however am tempted to buy in on the chance of promotion via the playoffs. I do hold Millwall shares (bought at 1p at the start of the season) and they are virtually guaranteed promotion now, but I am seeking other opinions.

Comments please...