Premier Utilities Trust Share Discussion Threads

[kvu] 17/12/2004 15:26

Closed puts at 1.40 for +0.10

Nas looks strong and spx looks like it could complete a fifth wave down along with the nas and do a quick double bottom so will jsut wait for the bounce.

[stoic warrior] 17/12/2004 14:55

kvu - my goodness, no worries, my friend; it never crossed my mind! I too, get incredibly busy ... Just passing an idea ...

[kvu] 17/12/2004 14:52

SW

Sorry for not responding to your comment yesterday.....I didn't mean to come across rude or anything, jsut I was really busy. I tend not to trade stocks so much with all the market sillyness going on with re-weightings, buy backs etc etc. That kind of activity is harder to absorb in stocks so I tend to stick with index trades where you can be a lot more technical with analysis.

Also went short at the close last night on some more spx futs at 1207 and closed at the gap down today at 1199.25 where support came in on the down trend again. I have just entered some nas puts on the jan 40.625 stikes at 1.30. I am thinking the nas will head towards 1628 some point today so i am holding my main fire power for that. I find it easier to use the NQ05H futs for charting and analysis to trade the qqqq as its shows volume and the indicators work better. After all the qqqq are a tracker to the nas so its all the same anyway.


Best

KVU

[stoic warrior] 17/12/2004 14:41

Thanks kvu ... I did not know that ... that will explain a few things :)

[kvu] 17/12/2004 14:24

For anyone who trades the QQQQ options and stock itself, they might like to know that the options got re-weighted last night/this morning and hence instead of the options having a $1 interval whole numbers, it is now weighted at .625 number intervals. So the $41 put/call is now $40.625 put call. As the options have been re-weighted $0.375 less on the previous strike prices the stock value should be down roughly the same at the open. Hopefully, charts will be updated to show the discount in historical data and to show a small gap down situation than should be the case.

[kvu] 16/12/2004 20:02

Closed futures SPX short at 1200.75 and took spx puts at 26.30. The QQQQ puts are still working, however half have been taken off the table at 1.55....

Later....nas looks set to bounce so taken all qqqq puts off the table at 1.55

[stoic warrior] 16/12/2004 17:44

kvu - if you short the occasional share as well as indicies, look at Lucent (LU) ... with the Sprint merger in the US and recent weakness in VOD in the UK the LU chart looks interesting ... I am just now short the March UK spread at £3.77 (instead of US option put).

[kvu] 16/12/2004 17:15

SPX just did a nice spike out of a wedge. Looks like a good fifth wave so took some spx jan 1215 strike puts at $20.90

[kvu] 16/12/2004 00:48

Taken an ES05H (S&P 500 Futures) short on at 1208 with a stop placed at 1215.

[stoic warrior] 14/12/2004 20:17

I am also postured to short, kvu, but I feel there is more topside tonite ...

[kvu] 14/12/2004 20:07

Taken a position on the QQQQ puts tonight around 2 mins back. Came in on the Jan $41 puts at $1.15 when QQQQ's trades 40.54.

[energyi] 13/12/2004 21:52

A retest of the recent highs
...
and here's GE

[collection agency] 13/12/2004 19:35

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[energyi] 13/12/2004 19:18

Dow-10620+: took on some more puts here

[energyi] 09/12/2004 22:02

Covered most of my Puts today at a decent profit.
Some small ones left

[mad mac] 09/12/2004 15:38

I'm looking for an NDX drop to 1520 or so over the next few days, to be followed by a strong Christmas rally. Just a guess, really, but it just doesn't feel like the bear has yet awoken.

[stoic warrior] 07/12/2004 20:49

More bullheadedness than skill this turn, kvu ... I was damned if I was going to book a minus sign on this trade ... right now I'm watching to see if this is a proper downturn to hold the Jan puts or a spike down to play.

[kvu] 07/12/2004 20:35

Nice one stoic. I closed out my QQQ puts at a small loss last week, but enjoyed a healthy profit on my calls. I got a bit spooked with the rally towards the end, as even though I saw it happening, I expected less volume and less power, but it was to be a fifth wave as expected. Oh well, you cant grab them all.

Be well. KVU

[stoic warrior] 07/12/2004 20:09

Closed my QQQXO (NAZ Dec puts) from last week, spiked down to be in good profit finally; will continue to ride the Jan puts I opened on Monday the 6th.

[mad mac] 03/12/2004 17:03

How significant do you think the bolly hit is, EI? I guess if it falls on Monday we'll know.

[energyi] 03/12/2004 16:37

Top of SPX bolly was hit today



big drop in Bond yields is helping the Builder stocks today

[mad mac] 03/12/2004 10:59

Actually, looking at the longer term charts the current level would be a fairly implausible top. I expect to see a higher level before the bear market resumes, maybe Dow 10900, S&P 1250?

[kvu] 02/12/2004 19:07

Thanks Mr E.

I missed up the entry on the QQQ's yesterday, but you cant get them all eh? Not sure if the top is in myself at today's high, but am keeping an eye on it.

[mad mac] 02/12/2004 18:47

Could today be the top? Nice clean dome 'cupola' shape to todays charts!