Plutus Powergen Share Discussion Threads

[1savvyinvestor] 14/9/2017 09:29

good luck with that!! If you put a stop loss there the market makers would certainly hunt you down...but a buy order. Hope not!!

[gspanner] 14/9/2017 09:04

Put a cheeky order for 500k at 1.95, lets see.

[folderboy] 14/9/2017 09:02

OK - In that case I will take an extra bottle of water and make it a year.

[1savvyinvestor] 14/9/2017 08:40

Lol! I will be very surprised if we are not comfortably higher at the end of your walk. I reckon once the six new sites are up and running and the £50 m deal is agreed we should go well over 3p never to return

[folderboy] 14/9/2017 08:36

Certainly not short term - been here what seems like a very long time. Guess a little too nervous and time to go out for a long walk - say 6 months!!

[gspanner] 14/9/2017 08:35

usual 10% drop on £25k of stock sold... though may be bigger trades posted later.

[1savvyinvestor] 14/9/2017 08:34

Folderboy. If you are short term the market has made a call . If you have any belief in what plutus are doing you will know this is a classic tree shake with traders with concentration of a gnat reacting to a total lack of understanding!

[folderboy] 14/9/2017 08:30

Market made no call? Maybe. Hope you are right and that I am worrying unduly having added rather a lot.

[codydotcom] 14/9/2017 08:29

Will have to have a proper look later, as I have a busy day. On first viewing, it doesn't fill me with joy. Will try to put any concerns into words later.

Have a good day all

[gspanner] 14/9/2017 08:27

Formatting a bit out, but love the table!

[gspanner] 14/9/2017 08:26

Full Year No of Sites EBITDA
---------- ------------ ---------------
1 3 GBP3,576,689
2 6 GBP10,511,445
3 9 GBP18,034,178
4 10 GBP24,567.293

[1savvyinvestor] 14/9/2017 08:25

The market has made no call on this . Just a few myopic short term traders

[folderboy] 14/9/2017 08:21

All very positive - but it looks as if the market has an alternative reading. Added on the first fall (too early it seems).

[1savvyinvestor] 14/9/2017 08:20

Anyone selling on this rns is clearly exceptionally short term . 6 sites up and running this year. 9 next plus very likely 8 gas sites by 2019. Good investment requires looking forward beyond your nose!

[gspanner] 14/9/2017 08:17

So there is a loss of £200k before financial chicanery, half that of the year before. Will disappear as the new sites open.

[gspanner] 14/9/2017 08:11

You got there before me isa... Exactly.

[isa2020] 14/9/2017 08:08

So...One working site makes just over £million, (PPG take 20% plus Management fee) round £350,000 to button line. PPG have six in total, by this time next year £2.1 million cashNow Gas, they estimate £3 million per site (PPG take 80% plus Management fee) round £2.5 million to button line per site ".. We started this process in the new year, and now have 80MW of projects in planning and a further 120MW in the pre-planning stage..."This time next year - 6 Rockpool and 4 Gas sites, running guesstimate income of £12 million (too start) No wonder they can get bonds of £50 million. With current market cap, shares in issue , I would say each new site is worth £0.01 to share prices (in a year's time with 10 sites and income of £12 million, share prices should be 10pDYOR

[gspanner] 14/9/2017 08:02

Yes I liked the fact they were obviously not flogging dead horses with regard to planning permission. Also bond issue to finance £50mil of the forthcoming sites. Would need a fairly juicy coupon I would have thought 8-9% - will be interesting to see.

[1savvyinvestor] 14/9/2017 07:51

Longest statement I have seen from them . Medium term the future is absolutely sparkling!! The revenue created by gas sites could be £25 million per year. Liked the mix of honesty and excitement. Didn't try to brush anything under the carpet. Planning permission has been a real struggle and obviously cost the group but all in the past for diesel sites. Planning should be easier for 8 gas sites. Not surprised big lenders willing to lend with the potential levels of return on gas sites . Stunning . Will the market wake up today or will the short termers complain about lack of current profit? We shall see!

[montynj] 14/9/2017 07:24

Very comprehensive Final Results...full of useful information....Very bullish outlook which is no surprise. Still a very strong buy.

[rhug1966] 13/9/2017 16:15

Maybe nothing can replace TRIAD but there are still significant TRIAD revenues to be had in the next 3 years. Full TRIAD payments this year for 6 sites and then reductions for the next two years. Plutus will make hay while the sun shines with TRIAD but they also have other irons in the fire which makes Plutus an exciting prospect in the medium to long term.
Not worried about the short time johnnys trading between 2 - 3 p

[maybesum] 13/9/2017 16:02

"extremely excited" was the actual wording in the 10th august Rns with regards to the outlook for Plutus. That is a good reason for accumulating while the share price is low as it is right now.

[montynj] 13/9/2017 15:52

Found them thanks

[montynj] 13/9/2017 15:49

Who are UK power

[maybesum] 13/9/2017 15:41

Bit of daily selling leading to a consolidation in the share price ---- Crumlin and the other four 20mw powerplants nearing completion which will send the share price rocketing in my view....... that moment is almost upon us. The last two rns's are recommended reading. The BD are "very excited"-------- I like that in my board! Strong buy.