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PNL Personal Assets Trust Plc

480.50
1.50 (0.31%)
28 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Personal Assets Trust Plc LSE:PNL London Ordinary Share GB00BM8B5H06 ORD GBP0.125
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  1.50 0.31% 480.50 480.50 481.50 481.50 479.00 479.00 741,389 16:28:10
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Trust,ex Ed,religious,charty 3.82M -14.29M -0.0394 -121.95 1.74B
Personal Assets Trust Plc is listed in the Trust,ex Ed,religious,charty sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker PNL. The last closing price for Personal Assets was 479p. Over the last year, Personal Assets shares have traded in a share price range of 458.00p to 486.00p.

Personal Assets currently has 362,350,372 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Personal Assets is £1.74 billion. Personal Assets has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of -121.95.

Personal Assets Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
17/5/2013
14:45
As I understand it PNLs primary function is the preservation of capital. This is only really a positive feature in a falling market. Under performance in a bull market is not a positive.
I'm up about 3% on this from last summer. Allowing for the meagre dividend this is the worst performer of all my trusts. My fear is that with its overweight position re gold this will continue to flounder.

james93
17/5/2013
14:22
Without 25% of my funds invested here I would probably be poorer
backwoodsman
17/5/2013
13:54
James - If you are unhappy with the recent performance of PNL then you don't really understand what it is designed to do.

The FTSE is up 20+% over the last 6 months. So what!

PNL isn't designed to track it - up or down - but to preserve and grow capital whatever the markets throw at it.

So far it is absolutely bang on acheiving that.

I get my excitement in other small cap stocks that fly or die........ but whatever happens PNL trundles onwards and slowly upwards. Just as I want it to.

argoal
17/5/2013
13:30
Do you have the right thread?
stupidboypike
17/5/2013
12:47
This trust really needs to pull it's finger out. I have about 9% of my funds invested here and it's going nowhere. Losing patience.
james93
16/5/2013
09:48
On 31st March 2013, gold was listed at 12.4%. So what with the massive fall in the gold price in April, I would guess that they have added some more during this month.
jeff87
13/5/2013
16:14
Gold is listed as 12.2% on 30th April 2013.
clausentum
24/4/2013
11:18
Jimbo, thanks for that.
Willgo back in now the ship has steadied, noting that PNLis reported to have reduced its gold holding a short while ago but % not indicated in the report I read.

davidbh
24/4/2013
10:40
Jimbo, nice balanced post if I may say.

Best regards SBP

stupidboypike
24/4/2013
09:36
I agree, need to keep some exposure here and other places of same ilk.
elmfield
24/4/2013
09:25
Gold price fall may already have ended DavidBH. I'm reading of tightness in physical supply all over the place, not just on the Zerohedge websites of this World. Important to recognise the most significant fall in price was in the futures market rather than the physical market. Yes, the latter fell aswell which seems to have bought buyers of the metal out in force. Difference in price of a George V Sovereign was only in the order of GBP 20 between before and after the fall, which meant GBP 255 per coin became GBP 235. As somebody who bought a couple before the fall, I can live with that.

Given how steady PNL has been, and how defensively it is run, I would not sell out on a drop in the price of Gold. The reasons for holding Gold as an insurance policy have not gone away. If anything, they are intensifying. Don't let the sky high Dow and FTSE trick you into thinking all is well with the World...

jimbo55
16/4/2013
21:40
Re Issue of equity @£353.10
and NAV @34881 on 15.04.13
and gold reserve @ 13.9 ofshareholders'funds.

I sold out @ 35331 today.

Will join again....when?
Whengold price ends its drop/NAV stabilises.
Any other ideas as to "when"?

davidbh
11/4/2013
15:24
elmfield: snap - all wrapped up in the ISA to boot. My other investment trust is SMT.
walter walcarpets
11/4/2013
14:37
elmfield worth looking at fev also
jatin724
11/4/2013
14:00
Any profits I am lucky enough to make get put to bed here, seems sensible to me.
elmfield
10/12/2012
10:52
Norman Lamont:
What's been your best investment?
Putting money into an investment trust called Personal Assets Trust [up 57% over five years compared with a 9% fall for the FTSE 100]. Its objective is the preservation of capital.

I prefer investment trusts. The fees are less than open-ended funds and the manager does not have the distraction of redemptions or new money coming in. Also, trust managers do not have to spend time marketing their products in the way open-ended fund managers have to.

jatin724
23/7/2012
10:10
Jeff

Their gold was taken out of GBS and put in an "allocated" account with JPM where it sits to this day. Why,if they had concerns about GBS actually having any gold and did not consider using a commercial vault like Viamat beats me. You would think Robin would pay attention to this especially after the trouble MF Global customers have had in trying to get their money back out of JPM.

Nothing wrong with PNLs returns and the thinking behind their asset allocation, however it would not be the first time that a bunch of provincials in Edinburgh have had the rug pulled from under their feet by the big boys

Have a read of this ...

bhagwhan
04/7/2012
20:51
Jeff

I would not get too carried away with this one. You cannot criticise the asset allocation as the results speak for themselves. However what makes me worry is the company that they keep. It would not be the first time that canny investors such as Robin Angus in Old Reeky have been ripped off when they play with the big boys. Remember Edinburgh is very provincial is more Andy Stewart than Wall Street.

My first worry is where is the gold at the minute? In times past the reports made mention of Seb Lyon using PHAU and the press reporting him taking physical delivery of his share. However the stuff that popped through the letter box the other day makes no mention of PHAU and just lists a "Gold" holding. Regardless as if PHAU actually has all the gold that it says it has, what really makes me worry is their relationship to JP Morgan as custodian. Have a read of the second last para on page 37 of the annual report. I wonder how confident Robin is of JPM with regard to their recent multi bullion losses and Blythe Master' s manipulation of the bullion market. If the gold is with JPM I would kiss your pension fund good bye or at least 12% of it.

cockneyponce
20/6/2012
20:21
The managers' statements, from today's final results, are a most depressing, yet very accurate read about investing at the moment.
jeff87
18/6/2012
18:49
Indeed it has.
analyst
17/6/2012
10:33
I think the price jumped because someone, late in the day, bought 1.8 million pounds worth. Hopefully it will go back to around its NAV price on Monday.
jeff87
16/6/2012
22:15
40T. It isn't a unit trust but an investment trust; traded like an ordinary share in the market. Sorry I started this hare running; low profile is best.
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