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[callumross] 28/10/2007 12:24

great find, radarlove!

[radarlove] 28/10/2007 11:23

Anybody read the article in 'The Sunday Times' today about the AD? Interested to hear people's opinions on the said feature.

I am sceptical about the journalist Alan Schofield. He wrote a misleading piece on the device in 'The New Scientist' back in the Spring.

GERM WARFARE SYSTEM TO KILL HOSPITAL BUGS

Technology invented to defend Britain against biological weapons in the cold war is to be used by the NHS to try to destroy superbugs.

The air disinfection units, designed to kill germs circulating in hospitals, have been approved after tests at Porton Down, the government's bio-warfare research centre in Wiltshire.

Among the first to install the devices will be Maidstone and Tunbridge Wells hospitals trust in Kent, where it emerged this month that unhygenic conditions had resulted in the deaths of at least 90 patients from the clostridium difficile (C diff) bug. Rose Gibb, the Trust's CEO, resigned.

The first disinfection units at Maidstone will go into operation this week. They are on trial at hospitals in Sunderland, Manchester and Carlisle and early test results have been approved by the NHS Ethics Committee. They show that in less than one hour in an enclosed room, the machine can kill 98.5% of germs in the air, including drug-resistant strains of C diff, E.coli and MRSA, another common hospital-acquired infection.

The new steps came amid further controversy over Maidstone hospital. It emerged last week that Glenn Douglas, the new CEO, and George Jenkins, the replacement Chairman, had both gone on holiday shortly after their appointments.

Gordon Brown has already announced a programme to 'deep-clean' all hospitals, but experts believe cleaning the air is essential in addition to elementary measures such as disinfecting surfaces and washing hands.

"We're washing hands more than ever but infections are going up. Something else must be going on. The aerial route is the most significant source of infection in the clinical environment," said Clive Beggs, professor of medical technology at Bradford University, who has been leading NHS research on controlling hospital-acquired infections.

"The average person sheds around 300m skin flakes every day into the air. Clouds of flakes go into the air, some go through ventilation systems and most settle back onto surfaces."

The disinfection unit works by generating chemicals known as hydroxyl radicals, by which can kill bacteira in confined spaces by mimicking the action of chemicals in the human body that kills bacteria.

The technique was first developed in the 1960s when scientists at Porton Down were looking for ways to combat airborne germs.

Professor Derek Ellwood, part of the original team and now an advisor to Inov8, the company producing the devices, said, "We now know there's a direct relation between what's going on in the atmosphere and actually killing organisms. This atmospheric disinfection machine is going to kill bacteria and viruses."

[radarlove] 28/10/2007 11:12

Anybody read the article in 'The Sunday Times' today about the AD? Interested to hear people's opinions on the said feature.

GERM WARFARE SYSTEM TO KILL HOSPITAL BUGS

Technology invented to defend Britain against biological weapons in the cold war is to be used by the NHS to try to destroy superbugs.

The air disinfection units, designed to kill germs circulating in hospitals, have been approved after tests at Porton Down, the government's bio-warfare research centre in Wiltshire.

Among the first to install the devices will be Maidstone and Tunbridge Wells hospitals trust in Kent, where it emerged this month that unhygenic conditions had resulted in the deaths of at least 90 patients from the clostridium difficile (C diff) bug. Rose Gibb, the Trust's CEO, resigned.

The first disinfection units at Maidstone will go into operation this week. They are on trial at hospitals in Sunderland, Manchester and Carlisle and early test results have been approved by the NHS Ethics Committee. They show that in less than one hour in an enclosed room, the machine can kill 98.5% of germs in the air, including drug-resistant strains of C diff, E.coli and MRSA, another common hospital-acquired infection.

The new steps came amid further controversy over Maidstone hospital. It emerged last week that Glenn Douglas, the new CEO, and George Jenkins, the replacement Chairman, had both gone on holiday shortly after their appointments.

Gordon Brown has already announced a programme to 'deep-clean' all hospitals, but experts believe cleaning the air is essential in addition to elementary measures such as disinfecting surfaces and washing hands.

"We're washing hands more than ever but infections are going up. Something else must be going on. The aerial route is the most significant source of infection in the clinical environment," said Clive Beggs, professor of medical technology at Bradford University, who has been leading NHS research on controlling hospital-acquired infections.

"The average person sheds around 300m skin flakes every day into the air. Clouds of flakes go into the air, some go through ventilation systems and most settle back onto surfaces."

The disinfection unit works by generating chemicals known as hydroxyl radicals, by which can kill bacteira in confined spaces by mimicking the action of chemicals in the human body that kills bacteria.

The technique was first developed in the 1960s when scientists at Porton Down were looking for ways to combat airborne germs.

Professor Derek Ellwood, part of the original team and now an advisor to Inov8, the company producing the devices, said, "We now know there's a direct relation between what's going on in the atmosphere and actually killing organisms. This atmospheric disinfection machine is going to kill bacteria and viruses."

[kemche] 23/10/2007 17:31

looking a little rosier...

[utterly pointless] 23/10/2007 15:41

Encouraging little bounce today... I wonder if they have a contract win or something...

[kemche] 21/10/2007 22:36

UP, same here - surely they must have moved on with the NHS - slow as they are. If we are not having any luck here then they must improve their marketing skills stateside.

[utterly pointless] 21/10/2007 17:35

Let's seee... but I guess finals will be released in November and it will be the forward looking statements I'm interested in...

[kemche] 18/10/2007 21:30

In fact compared to yours mine appears Utterly......etc,etc

[kemche] 18/10/2007 21:29

Not an Utterly Pointless investment then....!

[utterly pointless] 18/10/2007 21:22

have purchased 200,000 at an average of 24p. I've made profits trading this previously. my take is that this has a very high potential upside - and frankly if this product can't be sold in this climate then it's obviously no sort of a product - but that it's essentially quite a risky investment. I'll probably give it six months and if there are no substantial sales, I'll be looking to sell at a 50% loss or thereabouts. DYOR, naturally, but that's my take...

[ronmikeh] 18/10/2007 13:16

Nice to know we are all in the same boat.

[kemche] 18/10/2007 12:57

RMH, I'm in at the same SP

[callumross] 18/10/2007 12:31

patience will be rewarded soon

[ronmikeh] 18/10/2007 12:21

kemche. I went in at 32p. still holding and hoping.

[kemche] 18/10/2007 10:39

RMH, without contracts it's trading on hope. If they do manage to secure any with the NHS or even in the US then it will fly otherwise lack of news will see this drift. I'm still in by the way.

[ronmikeh] 18/10/2007 10:19

With all the hospital virus scares.I would have throught this company would be doing well,or am I missing something?

[ronmikeh] 15/10/2007 13:37

Seems to be networking in the right places.Looking forward to a recovery in share price. In at 32p.

[callumross] 15/10/2007 13:21

I see the company was a platinum sponsor of the 5th International Bird Flu Summit in Las Vegas a couple of weeks ago and the CEO David McDonald was presenting to delegates.

11:45 - 12:00


Breakthroughs in Science and Technology
to Combat Spread of Seasonal Pandemic Influenza
David MacDonald (Confirmed)
Chairman
Inov8 Technologies Limited
England

[baggywrinkle] 12/10/2007 15:07

Isn't it strange how, in mid summer, when there are few bugs around, the share price goes ballistic, then in autumn, just as flu jabs are being given and we have headlines about C.Diff (a target bug for AD) at Maidstone NHS Hospital killing many people, that the share price nosedives.

There seems to be a dearth of news about the progress or otherwise of AD. When there is an announcement I guess the share price will move significantly one way or the other.

[slapdash] 12/10/2007 14:46

another great SCSW tip!!!! not... slapper

[callumross] 12/10/2007 13:25

the results, as MJ crocket says will be lossmaking, but in a sense historic. The existing environmental business did have a lossmaking first half but this was, as I recollect due to the weighting of contracts towards the 2nd half, and was anticipated to be profitable in 2nd half. The set up costs and the costs of the reverse takeover will result, I guess in a number of one-off costs, making the year to 30/6/07 lossmaking. However, I would be surprised if the company, as a whole was not trading profitably now, and of course we will be updated on the progress to date for the new product. I, like mjcrockett, waited a number of years for success in this company, and also took the opportunity to cash in most of my chips when the shares rose so strongly in the early summer. Must admit, it is now looking interesting again at these levels, as impatient holders exit. Results, I believe will be published around the time of last year's i.e 8th November.

[mjcrockett] 12/10/2007 12:26

I sold some months ago, but may get back in one day. I would caution that the final results due out within the next couple of months may not be very pretty. last we heard the existing Inov8 business was losing money fast and there will be substantial set up costs for the new devices. I guess the company will be looking for some positive news to issue along with the results, but I would not rely on it.

MJ

[kemche] 12/10/2007 12:00

RMH, still here nursing a loss - let's see what transpires.

[ronmikeh] 12/10/2007 08:33

Has everybody sold up and left. I expect you will all be back when share hits 40p+.

[ronmikeh] 10/10/2007 16:36

Showing big loss to date. I will sit on them for now, unless anybody thinks different.