Metalrax Group Share Discussion Threads

[pvb] 13/5/2016 19:47

Dividend for unsecured creditors, but as they won't be paid in full there will be no distribution to the shareholders. :-(

See above link if interested.

[pvb] 24/10/2015 12:41

no pennies left for us small shareholders?

'fraid not.

[meijiman] 02/6/2013 21:52

Non as the criminals have taken the lot.........

[maltatrader] 02/6/2013 17:28

no pennies left for us small shareholders?

[meijiman] 09/5/2013 14:47

Perhaps you are right. The board is, or was, clearly criminally incompetent ........

[boystown] 09/5/2013 12:47

How on earth can it be that we get nothing back here from the administrators when NTAV at the last count was around£8.3m / 8.5p per share – particularly when Specialist Engineering with almost ¾ of turnover was making a health operating profit?

There's something that doesn't smell quite right here IMO.

[meijiman] 19/4/2013 09:04

If I ever come across any of these clowns in the real world i will certainly endeavour to scupper their chances of gainful employ. They are little short of hopeless incompetents. On a par with the idiots at HBOS.

[imastu pidgitaswell] 16/4/2013 15:02

She's doing a great job, according to her LinkedIn profile (which is strangely silent on recent corporate developments at Metalrax...):




Group Finance Director Metalrax Group Plc Public Company; 201-500 employees; MRX; Mechanical or Industrial Engineering industry

January 2012 – Present (1 year 4 months) Alvechurch,Worcestershire

AIM listed Metalrax Group PLC is a midlands-based supplier of specialist engineering and consumer durable products with turnover of £63m and EBIT of £2.4m. Since 2008, I have been a member of the executive board that has restructured the group from over 20 trading entities to 7, returning the group to profitability, having reduced borrowings from over £24m to £8.5m as at June 2012.

Key responsibilities:
• As a member of the Metalrax Group PLC Board, responsible and accountable for the success, direction & governance of the Company
• Responsible for the financial well-being of the Company
• Relationship management with key stakeholders including the pension scheme, share holders and bank
• Driving financial performance, strong financial control and Acquisitions/Divestments


And there you were thinking she had messed up...

[maltatrader] 16/4/2013 14:45

wonder if Caroline Green is up for the CFO of the year award.......

[pvb] 16/4/2013 14:43

Yes. I've heard nothing more and frankly don't expect to. It has been sold off, vanished without a trace as though it never existed. The website was whisked away into oblivion within hours. You could contact the Administrators, but my guess is they would just tell you "It has been sold. We are no longer involved.".

It is good to know that at least businesses_ were saved and people still have employment, but as to we 'owners'(sic), well we obviously counted for nothing. Wouldn't surprise me there are still some shareholders who don't even know about it. Makes you wonder about the status of 'shareholders' in companies. The reality is, when it comes to it, we just don't seem to be relevant.

[maltatrader] 16/4/2013 14:25

no news........is this a 100% write off?

[diku] 09/4/2013 22:57

But its all very cleverly worded so they are always off the hook....statements are worded in such a way it can have various different meanings/outcomes....its how one inteprets/understands it...

[simon templar qc] 03/4/2013 22:02

There were a number of warnings at the interims but maybe not enough. Investors need to look carefully at the statements as if at any point they were misled they can hold directors responsible.

[somerset lad] 03/4/2013 21:47

Were the directors under a duty to advise the market of the likely breach of the banking covenants, their actual breach, the lenders' refusal to waive, and the appointment of PWC?

[hastings] 02/4/2013 22:38

It happens oh too often and there is a familiar theme, many cases are foreseeable, others less so.We all know the outcome for the private investors and protestations inevitably fall on stony ground. It would appear that only when bigger fish get hooked do the ripples begin to spread.
An interesting read here,for those interested in an appalling story, the full trail of which remains intact on line from some years previous to the article below.

[meijiman] 02/4/2013 19:43

good points. The biggest issue for me is why the incompetent clown Richardson was allowed to continue running this into the ground. What an utter waster that man is.
the chairman is a spineless incompetent.
The FD a self serving loser. She should never get a plc FD job again.
Ho hum onto the next recovery story.........

[simon templar qc] 02/4/2013 19:28

Electronica,

I agree with most of your comments apart from last one.

You look at EKTs 5 year history they have generates considerable cash but its gone on excepetionls. Pre exceptionals EKT made good profits overall.

MRX just wasn't making it at the most basic level. Cashflow wasn't good and debt was too high at MRX. Also a pension deficit at MRX where as EKT has nothing to worry about on that level.

Lots of things Elektron can do as you know one of their worst operations is under offer.

I did predict this a while ago now, I do not want to gloat over investors losses.

Sorry to all investors here who have lost their money.

[electronica] 02/4/2013 19:02

Simon T

Lousy management
Excessive debt
Underperforming subs

As goes MRX today so goes EKT tomorrow.

[pvb] 02/4/2013 19:01

Interesting Comment by 'goldenboy' on a DT article here:



But is this E J Bowman (Birmingham)? Not a new co. AFAIK.

[simon templar qc] 02/4/2013 18:27

Nearly went under in 2009

"In 2009 Metalrax announced a refinancing deal after chief executive Andrew Richardson had previously warned it would have been 'unable to continue as a going concern' without new banking facilities"



Telegraph say...

[charo] 02/4/2013 15:24

easy, dont pay creditors walk away from pension deficit reduce costs through redundancy,refuse to fulfill uneconomic orders,exit unoccupied properties, all with the security that you can collect 80% minimum of debtor book screw customers in short term then sell the assets as going concern shorn of liabilities and excess costs ,for a mammoth fee,protected by law.great scam and anyone with the legal protection could do same.administrators know nothing about management and lots about debt collection and debt avoidance it is an industry that needs cleaning up.especially since the growth of the prepack.

[simon templar qc] 02/4/2013 15:14

Here we go:



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Almost 400 jobs saved by Metalrax rescue deal

Last updated: 2nd Apr 2013 at 14:47pm

By Edward Devlin, Midlands Correspondent

"Almost 400 jobs have been saved as Birmingham-headquartered Metalrax has been sold out of administration to a group of companies headed by Bowman Birmingham Ltd.

The group announced in a statement to the Stock Exchange this morning that it had suspended its shares from trading on AIM as it prepared to enter administration. The company employs about 450 staff.

Will Wright and Mark Orton from KPMG were today (2 April 2013) appointed joint administrators to AIM-listed Metalrax Group plc and its subsidiaries Metalrax Engineering Support Services Ltd, Metalrax Specialist Applications Ltd and Down & Francis Industrial Products Ltd.

On appointment, the administrators sold the business and assets of the niche engineering group to Bowman Birmingham.

The group will trade as Arc Specialist Engineering and is backed by specialist private investors which have committed to a significant investment programme in the company.

In addition, as part of the transaction, solvent share deals were completed for two companies within the group, both of which were not affected by the insolvency process: Metalrax Housewares Ltd, which was sold to Cable Capital Partners Ltd and Metalrax Overseas Holdings Ltd, which was also sold to Arc Specialist Engineering.

The deal has secured 387 jobs.

Will Wright, joint administrator from KPMG said: "The group has experienced difficult trading conditions for some time, primarily within their consumer durables division. While the group's management team has divested in recent years to focus upon niche areas, trading in this division has led to a significant drain on the group's financial situation.

"Being able to sell the business and assets, together with shares in solvent businesses within the group, has been a great solution to securing a future for the business and more importantly just under 400 jobs."

[boystown] 02/4/2013 15:11

It still means we'll get nothing or maybe a few buttons as the way the system works - the Administrators pay themselves first and have a vested interest in maximizing their own costs. So the 8p per share in NTAV will end up dribbling away.

This courtesy of Wiki:

"There is a general concern that the pre-pack administrator, in agreeing to the pre-pack in consultation with the company's management team (and usually its secured creditors), favours the interests of the managers and secured creditors ahead of those of the unsecured creditors. The speed and secrecy of the transaction often lead to a deal being executed about which the unsecured creditors know nothing, and which offers them little or no return. "

[simon templar qc] 02/4/2013 14:55

Sounds like a pre-pack administration.