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LONR Lonrho

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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Lonrho LSE:LONR London Ordinary Share GB0002568813 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 10.00 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

Lonrho Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
04/2/2013
17:02
Will take some time to unpick the sorry mess that Lenigas will have left here and in any event it's still the old boy network at the top of this.
Leni has found new more exciting vehicles with which to hoodwink & fleece investors via the inflated salary funded by endless equity dilutions rigmarole. He'll not be worried about this mess any longer.
Suspect things will have to get a lot worse yet and some aggressive shareholder activism to remove White et al and start over.
Shame really. With decent, honest & competent management this should be doing so well but, now with this number of shares in issue it'll take along time to move in a +ve way for investors.

mattjos
04/2/2013
16:50
Well I bought in today for the first time, a little bit of a punt, but they have some good established businesses, in the fastest growing economies, seem to have cleared the decks a little bit and come clean on a few things, so should see see a return to growing revenues and profits going forward. Time will tell.
hippo
04/2/2013
16:45
Am I clutching at straws thinking the profit warning is actually not such a bad thing. Obviously it is bad in itself but management do seem to recognise the problems and are attempting to address them. I suspect it would have been kept hidden not so long ago.
kingsize
04/2/2013
15:24
Stpalm. Worked it out higher up the thread mate...
zcaprd7
04/2/2013
15:16
It looks that the new management are clearing the decks and writing/off the previous management's mistakes.
The underlying message going forward is positive and augurs well for the future.

silverlandfinance
04/2/2013
12:34
Crazy volume today!
bernieboy
04/2/2013
11:30
How much would that be per share zcaprd? to save me doing some numbers. thanx in advance.
stpalm
04/2/2013
10:59
Still waiting to buy these when they are valued at the fastjet stake...
zcaprd7
04/2/2013
10:21
Lonrho's trading statement today has the shares down 26% at the moment. Is the former executive chairman, David Lenigas, still a shareholder?

The trading statement has a painful reminder note that he was given a bung back in September of some 8m shares "in lieu of notice and other benefits." It cost Lonrho shareholders £0.9m although to him it's now worth about £0.4m less.

However, as with past shocks at Lonrho (and there have been many like today since 2005) expect the price to rally back from 6.5p to above 7p today and a bit below 8p tomorrow.

Perish the thought I'd be lumped in with derampers but a spade is a spade.



kibu

kibu
04/2/2013
10:08
Interesting to note from today's trading update that some of the "divvies" that Lonrho caught with their fishing tackle were so small that they lost more money again.

It's only a trading update and not the accounts but it's hard to see how even Lonrho's conjuring can manage to add these figures to their humungous Retained Earnings deficit and magic a dividend payment this side of Christmas 2015.

With so many broken promises, the sad reality is that Lonrho's still stuck on de ramp.


kibu

kibu
04/2/2013
09:59
New broom same dirt. Begging bowl anyone?
kemche
04/2/2013
09:58
If I was in charge of Lonrho at present, I'd be tempted to do a 'kitchen-sink job' now that Lenigas has stepped down.
However, I have had the impression for many years that this company isn't managed properly and is a mess from top to bottom. The repeated 'delays' in so many areas cited in the report suggest just this. It is the role of management to look ahead and avoid delays - That is what it is paid handsomely for.

tommyjnewton
04/2/2013
09:51
Does seem that way. Will we see a bounce shortly? Seems to me some big NTs going through on the buy side, and small AT trades on the sell....or am I just seeing what I want to see.......

DL

davidlloyd
04/2/2013
09:48
Looks way overdone - or is it just me!?
bernieboy
04/2/2013
08:42
kibu - 26 Jan'12 - 22:27 - 1304 of 1305

Thanks to your post above I avoided this - You were absolutely right - a disaster zone. Was originally recommended by a broker back in 06 at 30p but I was doubtful about Lenigas so avoided "thankfully with hindsight -

Relooking after L's departure but while the words are rigth the figures tell a differnt story.

Decision to be made - Is the trading statement a kitchen sink job before a recovery or more of the same and continuing waffle ?

Unless very stong evidence that it is the former I intend to stay on the side.

Thoughts ?

pugugly
23/1/2013
08:03
A company's objections to the threat of increased competition is never serious, merely specious and self-serving.
valhamos
23/1/2013
07:51
It seems that there are serious objections from all remaining South African airlines to Fastjet's proposed take-over of the failed 1time Airline.
esteenfeldt
14/1/2013
15:09
Off Topic, Lonrho,

On Topic, African investment.



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Katie Koch, senior portfolio strategist at Goldman Sachs Asset Management, says Nigeria has a number of interesting investment opportunities.

To discuss the investment case for Africa, UK-based financial services firm Hargreaves Lansdown interviewed Anthony Eaton, manager of the JM Finn Global Opportunities Fund; Katie Koch, senior portfolio strategist at Goldman Sachs Asset Management; and Mark Dampier, head of research at Hargreaves Lansdown.

Cont...

tenapen
14/1/2013
10:08
This was a reply on trip advisor to a general complaint which was understandable. They will get there. There are other parts to Lonrho.
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Denis W, Directeur général at Grand Hotel Kinshasa, responded to this review
7 December 2012
Dear Guest,

You took time to share your comments following your stay at Grand Hotel Kinshasa, and i thank you very much.

Your comments on the quality of your stay hold my attention, and i understand your frustration. My entire team joins me to show our sincere apologies.

The Head of departments and their team have been informed about your observations, they will ensure that the quality of our services is provided optimally in the future.

Thank for your reference about renovation of the main building and swimming pool
''we'' Lonrho Hotels group took over the management of Grand Hotel Kinshasa, we committed to develop the standards of Grand Hotel Kinshasa such as our hotels else in Africa.
I hope that this unusual experience does not leave you a bad memory of the Grand HotelKinshasa.
Satisfying our customers is central to our priorities, and i hope we will be pleased to welcome you again soon in Kinshasa.
Thank you for your approach, i beg you to believe, Dear Guest, the assurance of my best consideration

mirandaj
14/1/2013
08:35
"Easysquat, Easyerror, Investment stutter?"
14 January 2013

It seems that parts of the building where Lonrho/Easyhotel plan to establish their first African hotel were more damaged than expected. The landmark site, built in 1893, and occupied at street level by McDonalds has not been officially occupied for a decade. Squatters earlier stripped parts of the building according Renney Plit, COO of Afhco Group, the owner.

Yet "Lonrho has signed a 30 year lease on the Stuttafords site" was reported on BB posters' cherished website proactiveinvestors on 3 April 2012 with the headline 'Lonrho to open first easyHotel in Africa by the end of 2012.' It didn't happen.

Afhco's website has been as quiet about the matter as Lonrho's, and Easyhotel's, since the end of May 2012.

The Easyhotel saga is part of an established pattern in the Lonrho chain of ventures that includes Fastjet.

Discussion about the runway lengths and quality of African airports is, thankfully, underway. These are relevant to the future direction of Fastjet/Fly540. Will the routes unsuitable for A319s be sold or retained with different aircraft? No doubt the BoD has considered these issues. However, the BoD of Fastjet is comprised of "experts" who have been losing money for SEVEN years running an airline in Africa and others who have success in Europe. It's a curious mix and ripe for hubris.

Fly540's issues with fuel costs and pilot recruitment have been commented on via CAPA (quoting Lonrho), Fly540 managers in the press and various articles on ETN. Litigation threats against Fly540 could well affect Fastjet. Clearly there are interests ranged in heating up the share price that reject cold facts and discussion in public forums..

Lonrho has announced other Fly540 launches since 2006 that never reached the end of the runway. (Two never left the hangar.) When you get to your destination, you need somewhere to sleep. Easyhotel? A leatherette seat at OR Tambo would presently appear to be the best Lonrho can offer or a bench at the corner of Rissik and Pritchard.

The BoD has made teasing comments about a dividend. Present developments at Fastjet and Easyhotel will not help clear the P&L deficit anytime soon.




kibu

kibu
14/1/2013
08:24
lonr still being rerated.
still waiting
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