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[cheshire pete] 08/10/2020 13:44

WTO fanatics lol....makes a change from no deal nutters.

WTO may have its faults but better than the EU protectionist racket, crooked accounts etc.

[alphorn] 08/10/2020 13:13

Latest news for those WTO fanatics who live on this thread.

Liam Fox has been eliminated and the choice is now between Yoo Myung-hee and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala as the WTO will appoint its first female boss. I would expect Yoo Myung-hee to be selected.

Ngozi is the outsider but very smart. She is a Nigerian-born economist and international development expert. She sits on the Boards of Standard Chartered Bank, Twitter, Global Alliance for Vaccines and Immunization (GAVI), and the African Risk Capacity (ARC). Previously, she spent a 25-year career at the World Bank as a development economist, scaling the ranks to the Number 2 position of Managing Director, Operations (2007–2011). She also served two terms as Finance Minister of Nigeria.

[geckotheglorious] 08/10/2020 12:42

Be Smart Wear A Mask
Dr Chris Martensen.

"Absolute common sense,and studies back up the efficacy of masks"

[minerve 2] 08/10/2020 12:10

Concern over UK cattle slaughtered in Middle East

[xxxxxy] 08/10/2020 11:37

n todays brief: Brexit trade deal chances on the rise, but at the cost of UK giving ground on key issues. Meanwhile, UK strikes deal with Ukraine and Cambridge Analytica 'not involved' in Brexit referendumChances of Brexit trade deal at 66%: Last night Michael Gove put the chances of a Brexit trade deal at 66% as he and David Frost revealed that the two sides have now identified most of the "landing zones" for an "eminently achievable" deal. Gove said that "negotiations are proceeding in a way which gives us cause for steady optimism". ...but at what cost: The real question is, should we also be optimistic? Well according to the Telegraph, British negotiators are close to a deal that commits the UK to remaining subject to rulings by the European Court of Human Rights after Brexit. The EU insists that respecting the ECHR and its court is a condition for cooperation in law enforcement after the end of the transition period. However, under a British proposal put to the EU, either party can trigger a "guillotine clause" that suspends the cooperation agreement if they have serious concerns about the rule of law. State aid concessions: Frost also signalled some progress on state aid, another area that has held back negotiations for some time. He described the recent talks on state aid as "somewhat more constructive" after "a long period in which we've been making little progress". The potential British concession was played down by Frost who said a strong dispute resolution system for status aid, a key EU demand, could be in the UK's interest as well because "other EU countries subsidise quite often more than we do".However, if we're relying on Brussels to play fair after the transition period ends and hold us to the same standard as EU member states who consistently pump state funds into their companies, we all know how that will turn out. Frost did however rule out an "extensive text setting out the detail of how we design our system" saying that any provisions on subsidies "must be proportionate, aimed at bringing about a degree of change in behaviour" and "must be the right instruments for the purpose.""Those are all commitments we are willing to make, and are important parts of a good subsidy system looking at the traditions we have in this country," he said.Fisheries is the final battle ground: On fisheries, no progress has been made. Boris Johnson and Charles Michel agreed to intensify efforts to resolve the fishing dispute during a call last night. The President of the European Council then proceeded to tweet "time for the UK to put its cards on the table".You have to begin to wonder if Charles has had his head in the sand for 4 years or if he's being deliberately ignorant. Frost has been clear on fisheries from the start and with Macron putting up a fight and EU officials apparently blissfully unaware of the strength of feeling in the UK over the issue, this one could go down to the wire.Many across the Channel have accused Boris of not really wanting a deal but in demanding a continuation of the Common Fisheries Policy after the transition period ends, you have to start to wonder if the Commission understands that with or without a deal Britain will take back control of its waters.Cambridge Analytica not involved in Brexit: A three-year investigation into Cambridge Analytica has now ended, concluding that the company was "not involved" in the EU referendum. As you can imagine, Carole Cadwalladr is taking it well on Twitter... I just hope her caps button makes it through to the US election night. Downing Street's hard line on agriculture bill: Ministers have been instructed not to make concessions when the government's agricultural bill returns to the Commons next Monday. The bill was amended in the House of Lords to include a requirement that food products imported in future trade deals meet or even exceed UK domestic standards. This is not the first time the Lords have tried to clip the wings of Global Britain and probably won't be the last, but Downing Street has made it clear that it intends to reject both amendments.The amendments would create rules that are much wider ranging than those in place today and risk having "adverse effects" on trade. A government spokesman said that the UK would not sign trade deals that do away with food standards and that "if a deal isn't the right one, we will walk away". Boris backs Ukraine: The UK and Ukraine are set to sign a partnership agreement that includes a free trade deal, reaffirming Britain's commitment to supporting the eastern European nation in the face of Russian aggression. Boris said that the UK is "Ukraine's most fervent supporter", with the deal representing a convergence between trade and foreign policy since Brexit.£1.3 trillion boost for British business: The government has also secured access for British business to £1.3 trillion of global procurement contracts after two years of negotiations in the WTO. The agreement ensures that British business can compete fairly for overseas procurement contracts and benefits a range of businesses that work with international governments.For the latest news and developments throughout the day, please do follow @GlobalVision_UK on Twitter.Thanks for reading, and enjoy the rest of your day.

[k38] 08/10/2020 11:23

The Clintons choose well.. two idiots easily controlled.

Democrats playing the cart of "colour" but the reality is she has nothing to offer.. I was surprised by her ignorance (I watch it) and her incompetence as a politician.
She is good for a secretary to Hillary but that's all.


In other words, she has not what it's take to be in WH and maybe one day become a president.

[minerve 2] 08/10/2020 11:11

"I've been on a few strategic teams"

The local pub quiz. :)

[alphorn] 08/10/2020 11:09

Ut - how to prune the park's trees?

ROFLMAO

[geckotheglorious] 08/10/2020 11:06

Interesting to see how the press reports the VP debates last night.

From the Guardian
"Pence-Harris vice-presidential debate: five key takeaways"
Not surprisingly the guardian is gushing with praise for Harris ,and their article is full of her quotes...and the tone the guardian adopts,oozes pro Democrat.

eg "Pence cut in on Harris a lot less – perhaps because one of his early attempts was witheringly cut down by Harris."






VP Debate Post-Mortem: Pence Trounces "Gaffe Machine" Harris

Summary (of the nine discussion topics):
1. COVID Response - Pence won - a body-blow slamming Kamala on vaccines: "stop playing politics with people's lives."

2. Health Of Candidates - Tie - neither candidate answered but if we had to pick, Pence shaded it as Kamala discussed herself.

3. The Economy - Pence won - the vice-president crushed Harris on Biden taxes (briefly silencing her over Trump tax cut repeal).

4. Climate Change - Pence won - perhaps surprisingly but Harris was unable to recover from being cornered on her sponsorship of the Green New Deal

5. China - Pence won - Harris facts all over the place and Pence closed with Biden's "cheerleading" for China.

6. Foreign Relations - Tie - both candidates parried each other's running mate's performance

7. The Supreme Court - Pence won - Harris refused to answer the question of packing the court and Pence was frank about being "pro-life."

8. Racial Justice - Pence won - again rather stunningly, Pence crushed Harris on misleading quotes and soundbites

9. Transfer Of Power - Pence won - while Harris went "vote now", Pence reminded the audience that Harris party spent the last four years trying to overturn the previous election

Pence dominated Harris as finally, questions were asked and answered and facts were checked!






And WSJ's Kimberley Strassel, the second half...

First half of debate was muddy. Second half is Pence's. She had no answer on foreign policy; no answer on court-packing; and doesn't have much of an answer on law-and-order. #VPDebate

— Kimberley Strassel (@KimStrassel) October 8, 2020

[alphorn] 08/10/2020 10:48

The company, which controls the third-largest bank in Kazakhstan and operates a payments and ecommerce business..........
London is the obvious choice.........

[alphorn] 08/10/2020 10:35

The issues in the above post are enormous for the major global UK groups in terms trade routes, pricing and the management of supply chains; both from a strategic point of view and system implementation. Anyone who has been on the strategic team for a major European (geographical) group for something like the introduction of the €uro will understand.

[alphorn] 08/10/2020 10:24

max - looking at potential time scales for negotiation and implementation of trade deals and ignoring the fear mongering 10 years etc.

This may be an indication from a study of 20 deals. The answer was one and a half years, on average. And more than three and a half years to get to the implementation stage.

So, going back to my question if Boris does not make an EU trade deal the UK will have a situation where on 01/01/21 there will be some sought of trading which at the moment is an unknown until a second form of trading with some countries when new trade deals are implemented.

This is clearly not an ideal situation for a country to find itself and helps to explain why it seems clear that Boris, Gove and Frost will want a deal. The issue, as posted many times, is selling what may appear to be a U turn to Joe Public.

(Hence my bullish view).

[scruff1] 08/10/2020 10:12

From what I can gather it is slightly less but largely still open. Then again despite the pretence at transpacerncy the SM is pretty much a closed shop. As usual we will find out a few days after they have closed. Will be difficult to know unless its announced - apart from share price movement

[stonedyou] 08/10/2020 09:56

No EU no cry
No EU no cry
No EU no cry
No EU no cry
No EU no cry
No EU no cry

said said

said I remember how it used to be
In the government yard in Great Briton
oba-obaserving the remainer hypocrites
yea mingle with the good people we voted out

good friends we have voted out
bad remainers we have lost
along the way yea
In this bright future we voted for
can`t forget your past
so dry your tears you idiot remainers

No EU no cry
No EU no cry
Hey Brexiteers don`t shed no tears
No EU no cry
said said said I remember how we used to be
In the government in Great Briton
And then BREXIT would make the fire and lights

I say our loved UK was burning
through the nights
And we will sing dance
I say of which we gone from the "HATED "EU
our hearts and will carriage us
And we will push BREXIT through

Out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!

So no EU no cry
No EU no cry
Remainer little sister
Don`t shed no tears(Lol)
No EU no cry

[chavitravi2] 08/10/2020 09:50

Does anyone know if MW have fully closed their short yet?

[stonedyou] 08/10/2020 09:47

No EU no cry
No EU no cry
No EU no cry
No EU no cry
No EU no cry
No EU no cry

said said

said I remember how it used to be
In the government yard in Great Briton
oba-obaserving the remainer hypocrites
yea mingle with the good people we voted out

good friends we have voted out
bad remainers we have lost
along the way yea
In this bright future we voted for
can`t forget your past
so dry your tears you idiot remainers

No EU no cry
No EU no cry
Hey Brexiteers don`t shed no tears
No EU no cry
said said said I remember how we used to be
In the government in Great Briton
And then BREXIT would make the fire and lights

I say our loved UK was burning
through the nights
And we will sing dance
I say of which we gone from the "HATED "EU
our hearts and will carriage us
And we will push BREXIT through

Out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!
out of the EU gonna be alright now!

So no EU no cry
No EU no cry
Remainer little sister
Don`t shed no tears(Lol)
No EU no cry

[sr2day] 08/10/2020 09:30

a no deal will send this down initially to 22p.and it is looking very possible.i am not adding until the matter is resolved.my holding is at 52p.a second tranche would be risky.better wait and buy on the up even dearer.

[renewed1] 08/10/2020 09:20

Dex right on the money!!

[xxxxxy] 08/10/2020 08:39

Great Barrington Declaration...Harry Flashman8 Oct 2020 8:23AMOver 104000 signatures now. Awesome - the medical science allied with critical thinking and common sense over hysteria  is winning!https://gbdeclaration.org/... Daily Telegraph