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[clocktower] 04/10/2016 12:46

They could be keeping stum because they maybe able to beat the drums loudly before long sinkyj.

Having Screwfix deal fixed up they will have added a fair bit to sales I expect, plus I would not be surprised to see a few commercial deals announced before long.

All the chips seem to be starting to fall into place but still a little way to go to prove it.

[sinkyj] 04/10/2016 12:09

Yep, Alexa (Amazon Echo) is a the most impressive little bit of kit I've seen for a while. I've had one for a long time. It took our guys a only a few days to integrate into our system and no Apple approvals.

It shouldn't take Lightwave long to do the same. Unfortunately, it will be cloud to cloud so a bit laggy on the current Hub but still impressive.

[sinkyj] 04/10/2016 11:41

Nice to see back in Screwfix. Will not be the same stocking order as B&Q but they are the same group.......


I know we like get on the company's case, but Apple are a difficult company to work for. Below is actually an extract on how Homekit has and will continue to fail. I've heard this directly from other sources who told me their Homekit sales were so far not worth the cost of development. The company sell a none Homekit version that works with all phones at a lower cost which outsells the homekit version. A link with Apple would do wonders for the share price hopefully, but long sought after profit? Not so sure.

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First, in order to work with Apple, companies need to be certified and approved by their Made For iPod (MFi) program. MFi is a licensing application program originally launched in 2005 to regulate the plethora of third-party iPod accessories. It has since expanded to include all i-devices and Apple's HomeKit home automation framework.

The MFi application can easily take a year to process, and HomeKit requires a separate certification. The HomeKit certification, which is operated manually and isn't actually listed in Apple's guidelines, will require at least an additional six months. When all the certification and licensing is complete, every single product requires an eight-week testing process before it's market ready. And of course, there are certification-testing and licensing fees at each level.

If your company and product have actually managed to jump these hurdles without going out of business or becoming technologically irrelevant, congratulations.

And if that's not enough, Apple also mandates that device makers and manufacturers buy core components from its proprietary suppliers. In all my time in manufacturing and product development, I've never had a worse component supplier -- excruciatingly long lead times, unresponsive and ever-changing terms and conditions that make for a frustrating process -- to put it mildly.

Apple's suppliers aren't the only party guilty of changing agreed-upon terms.

Apple itself frequently alters its testing requirement and HomeKit SDK. That's why HomeKit eligible third-party products are so scarce.

[clocktower] 04/10/2016 10:29

40 Products available from Screwfix - gaining traction it seems:



Also available:

[jmf69] 03/10/2016 17:56

Company year has ended. What are the odds on another profit warning?

[gozo] 27/9/2016 16:23

Congrats on becoming a shareholder (again) Clocktower! ;)

[clocktower] 27/9/2016 12:47

From May 2015:



Could Belkin now be interested in LWRF in many ways they would melt together rather well imo.

[clocktower] 22/9/2016 10:56

True gozo but it shows a lack of respect for the rules and PI`s and the general standard of corporate governance imo. Barry Gamble buy was before that as far as I can recall and seemed to be at a time and by design to help others unload stock bearing in mind the knowledge the board had about the trading etc - still that was just my view at the time, which seemed to bear fruit when the facts became known.

Question is - why have they gone so silent for so long if sales are going well.

[gozo] 22/9/2016 10:35

I take your point on the RNS not being issued....that was poor and should of been rectified....but....City financial sold a whole raft of different stocks at that time...their parent group BNY Melon were being sued in the states...so not LWRF specific.Since that time we've had John Sinclair adding to his holding, Barry Gamble buying a stake and committed capital backing the company plus potentially lucrative additional distribution agreements with ERA.

[whoppy] 22/9/2016 10:18

Does anyone know what this company is doing at the moment? A simple question I know, but one that seems difficult to get answered or find out.

[gozo] 22/9/2016 09:28

When you say 'another large shareholder' which one was that?

[clocktower] 22/9/2016 07:52

With another opening markdown it seems as though the slide will continue due to the lack of news from LWRF and it could be another larger holder has had enough and just wants out.

[gozo] 16/9/2016 11:20

Yes agreed minione.It's my understanding that a new hub is needed to accommodate the apple homekit chip....this shouldn't be too far away now. Will also add two way protocol at the same time.

[minione_pm] 16/9/2016 08:59

Hopefully a stronger second half of the year, they are still very quiet on the HomeKit compatibility. Especially now Ios10 is out.

[clocktower] 15/9/2016 16:24

SP still slipping though gozo due to the lack of news, as trading has been light.

[gozo] 15/9/2016 14:52

Just catching up with the thread - thanks for the links...good to see the App getting a good review.I notice in clocktower's smart summit London link, they mention LWRF having 400,000 devices now in the market place. That's quite a jump from 250,000 which was mentioned in the April agm statement.

[clocktower] 14/9/2016 14:27

Radmiser - how long has LWRF been promoting the branding?

[nar1] 14/9/2016 11:58

Good articles positive review of products