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KIN Kin Group

3.15
0.00 (0.00%)
Last Updated: 00:00:00
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Kin Group LSE:KIN London Ordinary Share GB00BZ7M6059 ORD 0.5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 3.15 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
18/7/2004
10:28
So the franchise board have tried to cut up rough on qualifying quotashares! But have failed to get them thrown out this year but will be back for more next year. Also look to see that 2004 rates are 98% of 2003 rates.
paddyfool
18/7/2004
09:44
what a tease you are, ratty.
ursus
15/7/2004
07:31
is ed at the crease?
ursus
14/7/2004
20:26
fair enough.
ive run out of time and have to go.
thanks for the food for thought.

regards
rambutan

rambutan2
14/7/2004
20:24
yes, all the ilvs say "kiln is, in many ways, a unique organisation"

that is their mantra

25 whores
14/7/2004
20:21
isnt that what all the ilvs say?
rambutan2
14/7/2004
20:19
Kiln is, in many ways, a unique organisation.
25 whores
14/7/2004
20:15
post 130 not 132!
rambutan2
14/7/2004
20:05
if you're referring to post 132, that is the solution, not the problem.
25 whores
14/7/2004
20:02
and is that problem just kilns or a more common one?
rambutan2
14/7/2004
19:50
thats enlightening 25w (or whoever!).
anything else to add?

rambutan2
14/7/2004
18:12
thanks ursus, but surely we can exclude wun - too big; hardy - too successfull; goshawk - ex lloyds; and highway and cox - ex lloyds.

so that leaves chu - unanimous agreement that too cheap plus held by good assortment of value institutions etc; kiln - also looks good; atrium - another good-un, but not sure about how shareholdings spread; svb - cheap but dangerous?; beazley - dont know anything about it; also caitlin? - again i have no knowledge.

rambutan2
14/7/2004
18:01
they are (if you include businesses that once had but no longer have a lloyds association)-
A - the biggest four
amlin
catlin
brit
hiscox


B - the rest

wellington
hardy
cox
goshawk
highway
chaucer
kiln
svb
beazley
atrium

ursus
14/7/2004
18:00
Could be Cox as well?
andyv
14/7/2004
17:39
so, kiln, chaucer, atrium, svb, beazley? not hardy surely - wheres he get nine from?
rambutan2
14/7/2004
17:29
so this time it looks serious.
rambutan2
14/7/2004
17:10
still looking good...

14 July 2004

Kiln plc

Presentation to Analysts

Kiln plc ('Kiln') will be hosting a presentation for analysts this evening.
Peter Haynes Chief Financial Officer, Robert Chase Director of Underwriting and
members of the underwriting team will present an overview of the current rating
environment.

Following Kiln's AGM statement of 23 June 2004, the rating environment is
continuing to develop better than predicted; Kiln is achieving overall renewal
rates that are 104% of 2002 rates and 98% of 2003 rates.

On Syndicate 510, the 2004 gross incurred loss ratio at the half year point
stands at exactly 8%, which is marginally better than the same point in 2003.
The principal reason for this is the Property account, where rates have held up
better than expected during this period; the property loss ratio on 2004 is some 4 points better than it was at the same time in 2003. Kiln has taken maximum advantage of the excellent underwriting conditions in the property market, writing a significant volume of business at favourable rates. The syndicate still retains material capacity for the remainder of the year for renewals and the usual contingencies.

Note to editors:

1. Rate changes by class of business:

The following table shows current rates as a percentage of those 12 and 24
months ago. It is drawn from the classes of business that make up Kiln's
flagship Syndicate 510, which accounts for 80 per cent of Kiln's underwriting.

July July
2004/2003 2004/2002

Accident & Health 103.62% 112.14%
Property 98.24% 104.02%
Reinsurance 98.86% 100.53%
Marine 94.01% 105.38%
Aviation 98.93% 103.25%
Syndicate 510 Total 98.06% 103.87%

2. Presentation to Analysts

A copy of the presentation is available on the Kiln website:
www.kilnplc.com

rambutan2
13/7/2004
10:14
come on ratty - spill the beans.
ursus
09/7/2004
10:57
they also say that a rat knows when to leave a sinking ship?
although on the face of it kiln looks pretty good at these levels, doesnt it?

rambutan2
09/7/2004
08:49
How come hes now withdrawn that remark?
paddyfool
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