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[cobaltsky4] 11/10/2016 11:15

Turkey's Dangerous Moves in Iraq
by Burak Bekdil
October 11, 2016 at 4:00 am


Turkey's primary concern is not to drive ISIS out of Mosul but to make it a "Sunni-controlled city" after ISIS has been pushed out. And this ambition jeopardizes the planned assault on ISIS.

Turkey's pretext is that its troops are in Iraq to "fight ISIS." That does not convince anyone.

In a span of five years Turkey has had serious political and military tensions with several countries in its vicinity: Israel, Syria, Russia, Jordan, Egypt, Cyprus and Greece. Most recently, Iraq has also joined the club of hostilities surrounding Turkey.

Despite the Iraqi government's vehement requests that Turkey withdraw its troops in Iraq, Ankara shrugs it off and says it will maintain its military presence in the neighboring country for "Iraq's stability." What a nice neighborly gesture! Behind the Turkish indifference lies sectarian concerns and ambitions.

On October 1, Turkey's parliament extended the mandate of Turkish troops deployed in Iraqi territory by one more year. The troops are stationed near Bashiqa in northern Iraq -- as unwanted guests. That sparked a row with Baghdad and may further complicate the cold sectarian war between the Sunnis in the region, supported by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, and their Shiite enemies, supported by Iran and the Shiite-controlled government in Baghdad.

[cobaltsky4] 10/10/2016 22:10

10.10.2016 Author: Ulson Gunnar
US’ Destruction of Syria will take UN With it


The United Nations has never looked more impotent, irrelevant and politically motivated in its actions than it has regarding the ongoing conflict in Syria.

It has categorically failed to take an impartial stance on the conflict which has raged for over 5 years now. This includes a failure to properly identify the conflict as a foreign-funded and backed proxy war rather than a “civil war,” as well as identify and hold accountable those nations fueling anti-government hostilities within and beyond Syria’s borders.

By failing to do so, the UN has undermined its own credibility, credibility required to ensure the Syrian government and its allies adhere to international law and observe human rights as they execute security operations aimed at restoring order and stability across the country.

[cobaltsky4] 09/10/2016 20:25

The 70,000 post-coup arrests are now at the heart of the Turkish government's propaganda war
From high-ranking military officials to university professors, those imprisoned since the attempted coup now total 70,756 - although some have been released

Robert Fisk Istanbul



from comments

Robert Ellis

The Independent is guilty of hypocrisy on the Turkish issue. As a well-known commentator on Turkish affairs (Google 'robert ellis turkey') I have contributed 18 articles to the Independent since August last year and my latest, "How Erdogan's Turkey is modelled on the Third Reich", on 23 July received 4K shares. The next day it was removed as their foreign correspondent in Turkey had received threats. The understanding was that it would be reposted after he had returned safely but this never happened. Instead the article was deleted from the Independent's archives. There was an outrcry, for example in the Press Gazette, but the Independent maintained this was "an editorial decision". Nevertheless, the impression remains that the Independent - in contrast to The Spectator and Boris Johnson's limerick and the Germans in the Jan Böhmermann affair - has capitulated to Turkish threats. On 18 July the Independent's deputy managing editor Will Gore wrote: "for the media in this country to give Erdogan a free pass would be a gross failing, not least in the eyes of independent Turkish journalists whose work has been hampered by the serious erosion of press freedom in their homeland." But this is precisely what the Independent has done by withdrawing and deleting my article from its archives.

[mrs tubs] 09/10/2016 13:27

Now Jeremy Corbyn is even being heckled by PEACE activists who say he is on Assad's side in Syria
Jeremy Corbyn yelled at as outside Stop to War coalition's conference
Protesters angry at Labour leader for failing to call for Syria regime change
Some protesters escorted from TUC's Congress House in London for rants
By JESSICA DUNCAN FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 20:58, 8 October 2016 | UPDATED: 01:56, 9 October 2016

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[jordaggy] 03/10/2016 04:35

NO. But he can issue an 'executive order' and have him assassinated...

[donald trunk] 01/10/2016 23:15

SHOCKING REVELATIONS

What's REALLY Happening in Syria

[big black dog2] 23/9/2016 19:00

It Is Now Official: Turkey Declared That They Do Not Intend To Fight ISIS. Instead They Want To Expand Erdogan’s Ottoman Caliphate Into Syria And Iraq

by Walid Shoebat on September 22, 2016

[big black dog2] 23/9/2016 19:00

good points. if clinton gets in she might try to finish off assad, and that could enable the caliphate to spread in syria. if trump wins, one would expect isis to become more frustrated and plan more attacks in the west. but would trump allow turkey to expand in syria/iraq? possible if you believe the isolationist rhetoric, but i find it hard to believe.

[loverat] 23/9/2016 18:46

I think Clinton will probably win. Clinton is definitely the biggest danger - she hates Russia and has a history of destroying the Middle East and very close ties to Saudi Arabia.

Her eyes when she mentions Russia are quite wild and menacing.

Trump is not suitable but I tend to measure politicians by their rhetoric. If they come out with controversial comments they are usually far more moderate when in power. And vice versa.

Clinton pretends to be a moderate but she is a deranged warmonger whose history of destruction in the world is not compatible with her liberal credentials in terms of policies.

[big black dog2] 23/9/2016 18:37

do you think there will be a spark before the election?

why are you so certain clinton will win?

do you think clinton or trump is more likely to result in WW3?

[loverat] 23/9/2016 18:33

Not really. But given the number of states involved in Syria it was always going to be sooner of later that there will be a clash between US and Russia.

No trust left and vastly differing views on the conflict - the US thinks breaking up states and installing 'democracy' is the answer - Russia more geared to stability.

What is happening now is a sharp escalation in incidents and no trust whatsover between Russia and US. It is basically a global energy war which is escalating.

Over the next few weeks I think there will be a spark, a major incident or red line that will plunge Russia and US into direct conflict. The other scenario of course is that Saudi Arabia or Turkey take a direct and open role (beyond simply supporting terrorism)

In truth any spark could set off a whole chain of events. The difference now is the US is spoiling for a fight and Russia not backing down.


P.S I see I did not mention Syria in my post so hope this helps explain the scenario I think is likely. Syria will be the flashpoint imo

[big black dog2] 23/9/2016 18:15

Loverat

can you please be more specific on how it will pan out?

[loverat] 23/9/2016 17:59

With the way things are going and the nasty rherotic coming out of Washington this last week I predict WWW111 or a very major war within 6 months.

Stock up on tinned food imo

Any historian cannot fail but see the parallels between 1930's Europe and the state of the world today. The evil of WW11 is there as are the alliance blocks of WW1

Whether the last 3 months of Obama's presidency is remembered for world conflict - or the arrival of the mentally unstable Climton, all the signs are there.

Let's see if I am right.

[au24] 18/8/2016 16:16

Loverat
What do you make of this-

Russia is Dead Serious About Fighting ISIS, So Why Washington Isn’t?
hxxp://journal-neo.org/2016/08/18/russia-is-dead-serious-about-fighting-isis-so-why-washington-isnt/


hxxp://journal-neo.org/2016/08/18/russia-is-dead-serious-about-fighting-isis-so-why-washington-isnt/