Invu Share Discussion Threads

[whereareallthemugpuntersyachts] 06/11/2013 13:34

you do have to call into question the judgement of some of the small time mug punter sheep


fenseal3
6 Nov'13 - 13:29 - 341550 of 341551 0 1

Tops, INVU...please you are better than that, priced to delist, i held a few and got out at a loss 0.37p on the day of the rns, i was gutted but looking now, i recovered some dosh...so happier than most.

[smithie6] 06/11/2013 12:57

BTW
worth noting imo that the dirs. could have bt. shares around .2p/share
between Jan and April....and they didnt find the shares attractive


I see that Linden House stopped acting as a re-seller In July
if that is one of hte 2 big re-sellers that INVU has .....then its bad news for INVU
the more worrying aspect is if Linden has decided to re-sell a competing product
instead of from INVU
if INVU product is struggling against better products, perhaps new products, from competition then that is a big risk

"We would like to thank them for the significant number of customers they have introduced to Invu over the years"
...imo Linden must have made the decision, not INVU....since Linden have introduced a "significant number of customers" over the years.......INVU is not going to throw away re-sellers like that, imo


INVU releases updated versions and new products....but so do the competition...
and INVU can only make limited investment in time and money...since it is so small....compared to what the big software companies can do


looks like main activity for INVU is software for accountancy
Sage is in accountancy sector....and Bond International (BDI) does software for accounts processing (and they process invoices as part of their turnover, so they know a lot about it), Bond is a small company but still many times the size of INVU.....and many others, no shortage of competition....a big sector, so I would assume it is hard to find a niche that the big players dont bother with
although INVU does supply to Housing associations, but surely such a small niche that few growth prospects

[29howard] 06/11/2013 12:05

TVZ is bust and suspended, you made 10% on it once, you have to stop posting this very misleading statement about 1500%, on that thread you were ramping TVZ
at 10p+ then so actually it's down 90% from when you first tipped it.

[topinfo] 06/11/2013 10:05

INVU here we go. Dont miss this one. Remember TVZ at 0.22p. It went to 3p up 1500% before it was laid to rest. This will head higher from here leading upto meeting in two weeks time. Thats 2 weeks you have to make money out of it before any decision is made either way. Look at cash and that should chill ya.

[mistermagoo3] 06/11/2013 08:00

freddyslims
6 Nov'13 - 07:33 - 658 of 664 0 3

Topinfo and moreforus you have been reported to the police and fsa and the company has been notified about your post.
Serious action will be taken.



LMAO what a bellend how old are some of these people nah nah nah !!!

[topinfo] 06/11/2013 07:55

I really have not got the time or the inclination to have an argument with you today shenks or should I say Freddy or whatever username you are using today so lets just let the share price do the talking shall we and see who is right and who is wrong!

Bye

[freddyslims] 06/11/2013 07:35

Your thread has been sent to the authorities

[freddyslims] 06/11/2013 07:34

Your post has been forwarded to the company

[freddyslims] 06/11/2013 07:33

Topinfo and moreforus you have been reported to the police and fsa and the company has been notified about your post.
Serious action will be taken.

[29howard] 05/11/2013 22:23

Best thread going this

[topinfo] 05/11/2013 21:57

Lol shenks/freddy has even registered a new username on LSE and trying to de-ramp INVU. Desperate or what except its another newly created avatar lol Posts 5 lmao

[topinfo] 05/11/2013 21:53

INVU Told yas. This will roar back up. 2 bagger easily IMO back to where it fell from. I defo think it wont de-list as wont get enough votes. Company is in great shape with lots of cash and soaring sales and revenue. No reason to de-list whatsoever and therefore major shareholders and PIs will vote against it in my humble opinion. Watch this space!

[smithie6] 05/11/2013 17:34

btw
the home page of their website has

4

blocks of text or image partly placed over another
at the bottom left corner

does not give a good image for an IT company
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long term chart



bad chart imo
imo best to invest in cos. where the chart shows a rising trend
and a long term rising trend....to indicate that the co. (and the bod !) knows what it is doing

investing in stuff hoping it is the end of a long term down trend ..praying for a reverse in direction.....as a general strategy it does not work imo

[smithie6] 05/11/2013 17:30

'Magpie'
'Tyne and Wear'

and no visibility of who own or control these vehicles
or very difficult to find

combined with "A" shares

looks like a cloud has intentionally been created...

to keep shareholders illinformed and in the dark

does not entice anyone to want to buy shares

perhaps part of the reason for the gradual drift down in the share price over previous months.

[smithie6] 05/11/2013 17:28

"(a) first, to the holders of every class of shares in the capital of the Company other than the A Shares, pari passu and rateably among them, an amount equal to the nominal amounts of capital paid up or credited as paid up on the shares held by them; and

(b) second, to the holders of every class of shares in the capital of the Company (including the A Shares), pari passu and rateably among them, an amount in proportion to the nominal amounts of capital paid up or credited as paid up on the shares held by them;

(B) the Directors shall have a general and unconditional authority pursuant to section 551 of the Companies Act 2006 to allot further A Shares up to an aggregate nominal amount of GBP2,000,000 for a period expiring on the fifth anniversary of the date of the passing of the relevant resolution adopting the changes to the Articles;"

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A) proportional amounts of capital.

0.16M of ord. share nominal share capital (shares x nom. share value, face value of 0.001p)
and 3.1M of A shares nominal share capital
and X M of deferred share capital
total 4.7M

(the difference is made up of deferred shares capital....which are intended as being useless with no rights)

ratio of 20:1 between A shares and ord. shares
"an amount in proportion to the nominal amounts of capital paid up"

so
is there a risk that ord. shareholders could get just 1/20th ...and A shareholders get 19/20ths of the pie/company in some circumstances ?

imo the mkt is not aware....
and thinks that ord. shareholders will receive 100%

and also that there are 160M shares

Not true if you read the docs. 470M shares and the traded ord. shares only get a % in some cases

what % is not clear to me in different cases....but the papers clearly state, relative to the capital....
and the ord. shares are 0.001p shares and the A shares have 10x the capital, ie. 0.01p

(if the A shares were intended to be equal to ord. shares, just with priority in a closing up or sale situation then surely the A shares would be 0.001p shares as well and not 0.01p, 10 x the cap. of an ord. share)

B) As I posted. more A shares can imo be issued....this could happen at a time that suits the A shareholders and the chairman or his mum is a large holder of A shares.

the ord. shareholders may hence suffer more dilution at any moment
and if de-listed, they wont even know !
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Cliff
whats you opinion on the info in this post ?

[smithie6] 05/11/2013 17:19

Cliffpeat
"have rights to vote"
I think you meant "no rights to vote"

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you dont think that the A shareholders will end up controlling the co. ?

if they coughed up 3M and cap. value is now approx. 1M
then surely they will want to have most of the company, sooner or later.

and the chairman is part of the A shareholder team.
You think he will act in his interests or in the interests of ord. shareholders, where he is a minority shareholder.
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ANy why did they not just issue more ord. shares....??
so that people would then be able to understand what was/is going on.
"A" shares. Farce imo. (I dont hold)
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If cap. value is less than 3M then surely all of that 'belongs' to the people that coughed up 3M. The A shares.
Is that not a very -ve factor ?

[smithie6] 05/11/2013 17:13

"Under the AIM Rules, Rule 41, it is a requirement that any cancellation of admission to trading on AIM must be approved by not less than 75 per cent. of votes cast by shareholders voting in a general meeting."

The meeting is at 9am.....at a building in the countryside !
Virtually no one will be there !
imo indicates that they dont want anyone to be there !!
Why ?
Avoid questions ?

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75%

There are about 35% of the total from 3 big holders.
One is Goldman, big holder of A shares.

If this 35% votes NO, and 5% from the dirs.
then imo they will achieve 75% of the votes cast

NOTING
that most PIs will not bother to vote.....many of their nominee holders will not allow them to without making a payment imo.
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In any case
the A shares have preference over the ord. shares in various cases...
the A shares cancelled 3M of debt.....
cap. value is approx. 1M.

ie. the A shareholders will want , or expect, to be the majority shareholders
and quite rightly too !

if cap. value goes to 2M, then still less than what the A share paid
if cap. calue goes to 3M then equals what the A shares paid

Does the cap. value need to multiply by 3 before there is any excess compared to what the A shareholders paid ?
...to me, the risk/reward looks completely unattractive
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[cliffpeat] 05/11/2013 17:06

Smithie6 - re: Liabilities per your post 610.

The annual accounts at 31 January 2013 Note 15 explains that £1m of "Trade and other payables" was deferred income. Accounting rules require income billed in advance to be spread over the period to which it relates. Assuming this item is for software maintenance and/or licences then it is not a cash flow liability (and for many/most similar companies there is often relatively little associated cost to be incurred against this income).

This £1m can be ignored(virtually)when assessing the "working capital" - and that makes the cash balance much more relevant in my opinion.

I have most of the recent prolific posters on filter as this board so apologies if this point has already been made.

The accounts at note 19 state that the A ordinary shares rank in priority to the ordinary shares with respect to any distribution of assets of the Company on a winding up but have no rights to attend and vote at general meetings of shareholders.

I have added since the de-listing announcement.

DYOR and all just my opinion

edited "no" rights to vote

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