Intelligent Energy Share Discussion Threads

[ibug] 14/2/2017 12:46

Stig___Zilch pollution tech.

[the stigologist] 14/2/2017 12:40

I must be very old I still end up calling this Intelligent Environments

[ibug] 14/2/2017 12:36

There are no known plans for such a move. The share price would have to be very much higher to make that viable....IEH have no plans to cash up convertible notes IMO...lol@pUG the Drunk...Hobo lol

[pugugly] 14/2/2017 12:09

Before wveryone starts rushing in suggest check the latest Edison note re dilution by the convertivle loan notes issued Jnune 2016 - If all converted more than double the number of shares Also a Rule 9 waiver - Ouch !!

[ibug] 14/2/2017 12:04

The share price is getting increasingly more confident and volitile on a daily basis as expectations of more commercial deal anouncements mount.

Perhaps a sharp recovery will be in the offering on scalable drone deals news.

[ibug] 13/2/2017 13:02

The cost of H2 gas is set to drop to $3:50 USD/kilo through cheaper production techniques. The US are already supplying at that price for trucks.

Therefore H2 gas is much cheaper than oil products.

[dean windass] 13/2/2017 12:32

As I've said before, it's the political weight of the air quality that will give this weight. We are stuck with centuries of urbanisation which has brought the air quality in the capital of the UK with 13 million people to dangerous levels. London, especially post Brexit is fighting other capitals for business. Other capitals are further ahead than London. The rich want their kids breathing clean air. The UK wants the rich to base themselves there and pay taxes.

As far as police cars go ... I reckon electric cars are no good because of the amount of time needed to charge the cars and the cost of paying officers to do nothing whilst they sit in a charging car. Incredibly inefficient and it also creates a great excuse for skyving.

[filster] 13/2/2017 11:51

Hmm... an interesting article. Of course the current cheapness of Oil at the moment is slowing interest in alternative energy sources.

It would be interesting to see the set up of a domestic HFC co-generation system when using LPG or Oil as the primary heating fuel source. The cost benefit could be there or thereabouts. I think there are a handful of HFC powered or co-generation houses in the UK. But there is plenty of opportunity with quite a few properties off the main gas network.

[ibug] 10/2/2017 10:33

Development of longer range HFCs is already in the works using nanotubes tech plates that early tests suggest will give a car a range of 800 miles.


LITHIUM batteries have a long history of fires and explosions and a short lifespan. Although H2 powered transport is behind the curve in terms of infrastructure deployment it is catching up rapidly with investment projects being developed everyday.

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[filster] 10/2/2017 10:19

Yes but the point you are missing is that battery technology and the use of the power stored is improving all the time. Tesla improved their range with a FoC OTA update to the Model S range. It's around the 250 to 280 mile mark. Once you start getting in to the 300 or 400 mile range HFC could well be dead in the water. They also give you a 100 or 140 quick charge within about 30 to 40 minutes.

From their own website "Tesla is the only EV manufacturer capable of charging vehicles at up to 120 kW, which equates to about 170 miles of range in as little as 30 minutes."

So this negates a lot of your argument, of course Tesla are the market leader.

Five H2 refuelling stations VS how many petrol stations? 500? 1,000? A massive difference in the scale.

[ibug] 10/2/2017 09:07

The range of batteries has always been very low with long charging times. H2 powered cars often have a range of 350 to 400 miles on a 3 minute charge. Trucks have been developed with a 1000 mile range....Cars promise to go the same way IMO.


H2 powered transport is far superior in terms of range and lifespan. A battery car can only be charged 1000 times before needing to be replaced at a cost of at least 5000USD. A fleet car will need a new battery every three years...Where as an H2 cell lasts about a decade.

About refuelling facilities ....London have five H2 refuelling stations...A return to base for fuel is not actually needed.

[filster] 10/2/2017 08:47

Just to keep focus and balance...

"
Now the force is planning to trial five hydrogen powered vehicles as emergency response vehicles, though the pilot scheme will be limited to areas close to the five hydrogen cell charging points in the capital.
"

I think they have also indicated that they will be refuelled 'back at base' which could provide an interesting solution to the refuelling issue that is obviously one of the bigger issues facing HFC take up.

I think one of the major issues is the tipping point of range. If the battery technology gets too much better too quickly and cheaply then HFCs could be bypassed.

[ibug] 10/2/2017 08:39

IEH ARE MEMBERS OF THIS SCHEME LEADING H2 DEPLOYMENT/ DEVELOPMENT ACROSS EUROPE.


The most ambitious fuel cell vehicle deployment promises to expand access to clean-energy transportation

BRUSSELS--Hydrogen Mobility Europe (H2ME) – the ambitious multi-country, multi-partner project to demonstrate that hydrogen can support Europe’s future transport demands – today announced that the first 100 fuel cell electric vehicles (FCEVs) deployed by H2ME are now on the road in Germany, France and the UK.

A new generation of fuel-efficient vehicles

H2ME brings together eight European countries to address the actions required to make the hydrogen mobility sector truly ready for market. The largest-scale project of its kind, H2ME will:
•Perform large-scale market tests of hydrogen refuelling infrastructure;
•Deploy hundreds of passenger and commercial fuel cell electric vehicles operated in real-world customer applications;
•Demonstrate the system benefits generated by using electrolytic hydrogen solutions in grid operations.

[dean windass] 10/2/2017 04:08

Initially, I see all this giving IEH an "in" with Toyota. If IEH and Suzuki have been smart, they may well show Toyota their HFCs and ready to go production line will combine with Toyota's hybrid and drive train tech to produce competitive products. IEH have been saying for years they have been ready and they're just waiting for the industries to wake up .... are SMILE FC Systems Corp. so far ahead Toyota will use their expertise? .... We'll see

[dean windass] 10/2/2017 03:45

uite and upturn. Sorry about the glitch in the posting. Will be back to contributing more to this forum for a few weeks at least until I disappear on my travels again.

[filster] 09/2/2017 10:54

Hmm.. they're trying to rise the share price here, but it's resisting the MMs charms.

[filster] 08/2/2017 16:03

There must be a 'big' buy sitting there, or a few of the sells are in fact buys... I guess we'll see in 1/2 hour to an hours time..

At least we got some news, but still small fry at the moment. They need some money and at least they were insistent that any trials going forward would not be beneficially detrimental to the company - so they should at least cover their costs or make some money from it. Of course we don't know the numbers involved, it could be a couple or 10 or 20 or so... Hopefully we'll know a little more soon.

As mentioned I am planning on going to the shareholders meeting. It will be interesting to see IEHs language and body language.