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IEH Intell.Eng.

0.2695
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28 Mar 2024 - Closed
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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Intell.Eng. LSE:IEH London Ordinary Share GB00BNB7LQ31 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 0.2695 0.241 0.298 - 0.00 00:00:00
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24/11/2016
17:05
MMC are showing their HFC powered drone at Air Shows and Trade Fairs in china now .... and are making good progress in Indonesia .... I'm sure IEH will make money out of this but not sure if it will lead to an RNS on a joint venture of just more revenue in next year's results.
dean windass
24/11/2016
16:51
IEH uperate in markets sensitive to the oil price. When oil is expensive, HFCs powered by H2 made from renewable resources become more cost effective. When oil is cheap, HFCs struggle unless there are pressing environmental concerns.

The reason I keep banging on about the drone and military market is no-one cares about the price of oil. The lightness of HFCs is the key to not weighing down soldiers or not having to run a vehicle's engine to power the electric kit in it .... like running your car engine to listen to the radio or charge your phone ... making noise and creating heat you don't want on the battlefield.

HFCs aHFCs runningre quiet and can produce very little heat making them far less susceptible to heat seeking missiles so ...

I reckon .... the hydrogen powered iphone will have its tech used in the gear soldiers carry with them ... the weight saving is supposed to be 61% over batteries .... it also seems as if the UPP .... whilst not a roaring commercial success with consumers might have been adopted by the military enabling charging via USB of devices in the field .... IEH allegedly made 50,000 of them. Where are they all? Soldiers getting their UPPs recharged once a week is better than carrying batteries that need to be disposed of and carried back to base for recharging ... I'm sure the army would love soldiers to have walkie talkies that lasted a week rather than a day between charges.

Similarly, the drone market ... no-one cares what oil costs here .... they just want drones in the air longer .....

I reckon there is money to be made by IEH in these markets ... eventually, HFCs will replace lots of currently oil powered kit regardless of the oil price (oil WILL go up in price ... oil needs to be transported and so do what is refracted out of it ... petrol propane, butane etc.. .... hydrogen can be made anywhere) .... so, for example, rather than transport petrol to a garage at the end of a very long road, you'd be better off making hydrogen at the end of the road and filling HFC powered vehicles there. In some cases, there are strong arguments for HFC powered cars in some territories and circumstances ... like for lifts .... maybe airports, train stations ... any covered area where there are people ...

One presumes that ... like smoking, drink driving etc., driving polluting cars will become socially unacceptable and even private ownership of cars will soon be discouraged as emission-free driverless uber cars become the norm in places like London

dean windass
24/11/2016
13:35
A recent video interview about IEH H2 drone tech:

Market Leader Intelligent Energy Revolutionizes Drone Industry with Fuel Cell Technology



Based on that interview investors should see some commercial orders flowing.

ibug
24/11/2016
10:56
The company have a published plan to sell into the Drone, Phone, Scooter and Telecom Tower markets. Each market is very significant in size; if the company win just a small slice in each market then revenues could be quite significant.
ibug
23/11/2016
20:49
Whilst compact versions do exist, not with the casing that the MMC one has. The casing is bespoke to IEH.
filster
23/11/2016
19:22
iT MIGHT BE A CUT DOWN VERSION or a version specific to MMC...I have asked some questions and await a reply. However the timing of their announcements last April tended to coincide and may be related. IEH said then they had signed a deal with a drone major.
ibug
23/11/2016
18:14
@ibug - if you delve a little deeper and look at the images of the fuel cells themselves on both sites (MMC and IEH) I think you will see that they are quite different in their structure. Admittedly the PEMs (Proton Exchange Membrane) could be the same, but the 'casing' looks substantially different on both websites.

I've actually held both the standard IEH HFC and the lightweight version.

filster
23/11/2016
17:54
I have contacted both company's and asked who the supplier is.

Last April both company's made the same announcement about HFC powered drones. That looks like too much of a coincidence and that is why the two businesses are involved in possibly the same project.

After your recent behavior I would be very reluctant to believe your opinion at all.

ibug
23/11/2016
16:12
The MMC fuel cell stack doesn't look like IEH ones... Especially not the lightweight ones.

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As I'm sure you're aware the lighter the weight the less Hydrogen you need to power the Drone. The IEH products are class leading, but they need to sell them!

filster
23/11/2016
10:44
If MMC are using an HFC developed by IEH then we can expect some significant purchase orders soon.

Here is a look at their product range:

ibug
23/11/2016
10:25
China Hi-Tech Fair (CHTF)kicked off in Shenzhen Exhibition Center in 16th Nov. and would last for 6 days until 21th Nov. MMC, the professional industrial drone manufacturer at the booth 2B09 presents its latest R&D achievement.

In recent years, MMC encourages the innovation and the staff make breakthroughs constantly.

MMC launched the groundbreaking hydrogen powered drone-HyDrone 1550 this year. What distinguishes HyDrone 1550 from other drones is the Hydrogen fuel cell, a special type of cell that provides continuous power for multi-rotors so long as the hydrogen is supplied continually. Now the individual fuel cell module is open for the market. Namely, MMC puts the separate hydrogen fuel cell module up for sale.

MMC’s hydrogen fuel cell called “H1-Fuel Cell” beaks the limitations of the lithium battery for its flight endurance reaches 3 hours. It is designed for a wide range of commercial drones (both for fixed-wing and multi-rotors UAV),such as DJI M600, MMC HyDrone 1550 and MMC A6 Plus, etc.. H1-Fuel Cell,with lifespan of up to 1000 hours, has a strong adaptability in harsh environment because of its highly reliable structure and robust materials. Characterized by Powerful failsafe protection, low-pressure hydrogen protection and high-pressure hydrogen protectio, it is of high security.

ibug
23/11/2016
09:47
A UK company says it has developed what could be a game-changer in drone tech.

While it may not appear different from commercially-available UAVs, Intelligent Energy’s drone is powered using two hydrogen fuel cells. The only waste product is warm air and water, which its inventors say solves two of the biggest problems associated with drones: flight time and re-fuelling.

“On the top are the two fuel cell stacks – they need oxygen which is from the air, which is what the fans help – and underneath is the hydrogen. So, the hydrogen and the oxygen run across the fuel cell plates and produce electricity,” says Julian Hughes, Acting Managing Director of Intelligent Energy’s Consumer Electronics Division.

The global commercial drone market is expected to sky-rocket in the coming years, reaching close to 5 billion euros by 2020. But it’s being held back by the short range and long re-charging times of conventional batteries, according to Julian Hughes.

“The main problem with current battery technology on drones is flight time – you get around 15 minutes and then you have to re-charge the battery for a number of hours,” he says. “And with fuel cell technology that we have now put on board, the flight times are significantly increased, up to between an hour and two hours. And no need to recharge the battery, all you need to do is change the fuel source and that takes around a minute.”

The energy group recently announced it had signed a deal with a major drone manufacturer. At the group’s headquarters, experts aren’t just experimenting with drones. They see potential applications in everything from cars to smartphones.

“It’s starting now to hit the market in different areas. We’ve seen car companies have now released fuel cell vehicles, there are stationary power applications where fuel cells are providing back-up power to things like mobile phone towers or for generators generally,” says Julian Hughes.

Intelligent Energy says it hopes to have its fuel cells on commercial drones within the next year. The company is also working with a smartphone manufacturer to create a phone that lasts up to a week on hydrogen fuel cells.

ibug
23/11/2016
09:41
I see the dip stick SHORTER IS BACK....STAY CONFUSED nobody else is.
ibug
23/11/2016
09:19
I find the general waffle in what can be a Trillion $ market posted by ibug just confuses the issues instead of helping focus on the actual facts as concerns IEH. He does it on ITM and the effect is detremental
norbus
22/11/2016
21:00
The share price has started to recover on the likelihood that the business is a turnaround story that will be successful.

And that prognosis is based on a business sector that promises to become high growth.

Many are expecting IEH to deliver on its strategy to win new business especially after recently setting up facilities in China, Japan and Florida. And that new business promises to come from telecom towers, phones, drones and small stand alone power systems replacing diesel equivalents.

Hence, the future is most likely to be one of growth following the sector trend.

ibug
22/11/2016
17:05
Having soldiers carrying around spent rechargeable batteries to be recharged in the field by what exactly? .... doesn't make sense "excuse me nice Mr. Taliban man, can I charge my GPS. I'm lost!" ..... alkalines ... many ops, you mustn't leave a trace you were ever there so you carry dead batteries with you or bury them ..... HFC cartridges once spent can be refilled and will be lighter by, allegedly, some 61% compared to battery powered missions ... that's a hefty saving
dean windass
22/11/2016
16:33
IEH will make money with the right product at the right price. having dug into the military stuff, I can see that happening. there will be SAVINGS for armies etc. kitting fighters out with HFC powered kit compared to using disposable batteries which weigh loads and cannot be discarded in the field unless they're buried ... and i reckon the market for IEH non hydrogen fuel cells will also do well .... the sector IS growing, revenue keeps going up .... most of the R&D has been done ... like any other company, they lose money at the R&D stage then make money
dean windass
22/11/2016
16:26
POWER TO GAS GENERATION IS GOING TO BECOME A REALITY FOR ANY EU National grid system:


"Energy storage means, in the electricity system, deferring an amount of the electricity that was generated to the moment of use, either as final energy or converted into another energy carrier," the draft, due to be published November 30, says.

Platts reports that the inclusion of the words "another energy carrier" brings power-to-gas concepts within the regulatory definition of energy storage. Power-to-gas turns excess power into hydrogen which is added to the gas system.

GOOD NEWS FOR H2 PRODUCERS AND HFC MANUFACTURERS.

ibug
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