Intelligent Energy Share Discussion Threads

[dean windass] 08/3/2017 15:54

this phone may never appear. Is any other phone manufacturer mentioning fuel cells?

"Company Turing Robotic Industries introduced the concept smartphone with three processors working in parallel, 18 GB RAM and 768 GB of non-volatile memory with the possibility of expansion, four cameras and three independent power supplies.

Smartphone with three processors.

Company Turing Robotic Industries (TRI) introduced the concept of a smartphone with three 8-core processors Qualcomm Spapdragon 830 operating in parallel mode, and three memory modules with a capacity of 6 GB each (a total of 18 GB).

Among other things, Turing Monolith Chaconne has three sources of energy - a kind of "graphene superkondesatorom" 3600 mAh, Li-ion battery 2400 mAh battery and fuel cell - a camera with four arrays of 20 MT each and four slots for SIM-cards.

The concept features three non-volatile memory modules 256 GB each (total 768 GB capacity). It has two slots for memory cards microSD, allowing to add a terabyte of memory.

Display Monolith Chaconne invited to make a diagonal of 6.4 inches with a quite normal for such a device resolution of 3860 x 2160 pixels (Ultra HD).

operating system.

Conceptual smartphone running yet defunct operating system Swordfish OS, which is based on neural networks and pattern recognition of natural language. Swordfish OS based Sailfish OS is proposed to put on the Finnish company Jolla, founded by former employees of Nokia.

sources of inspiration.

TRI wants to "re-invent the mobile phone", as, according to Steve Jobs (Steve Jobs), in 2007. Apple has made the release of its first iPhone. Developers believe that the future lies for artificial intelligence. And so the mobile devices need to be much faster in terms of calculations in comparison with modern gadgets.

It is worth noting that the Monolith Chaconne has quite unusual design. The engineers took inspiration from the sci-fi movie "Space Odyssey 2001", 1968. And named in honor of the device is a piece of music of the American violinist Jascha Heifetz (Jascha Heifetz).

Turing Phone Cadenza Monolith Chaconne - TRI is the second project of the company within the Outer Blueprint program on the integration of artificial intelligence to the mobile device. The first project, a concept smartphone Turing Phone Cadenza, was announced a week ago.

Turing Phone Cadenza, as Monolith Chaconne, has more than one processor - their two devices. The amount of total memory is 12 GB, and a constant - terabyte (with the possibility of doubling through memory cards). There are also three sources of energy used.

Models Phone Cadenza and Monolith Chaconne authors implement the same idea, just Phone Cadenza has a less powerful stuffing.

Estimated release date.

There is no guarantee that the Turing Monolith Chaconne will hit the market. TRI is only talking about the model Phone Cadenza, its release is planned at approximately 2017. The company invites you to join the staff of his design office in Finland, where the described concepts have been developed to assist in the implementation of.

Turing Phone Company Turing Robotic Industries announced itself in the consumer market in the spring of 2015. , Announced a smartphone with enhanced data protection Turing Phone based on Android.

The developer was not particularly faithful to his promises to customers. When began accepting pre-orders, it became clear that the actual cost of the above Turing Phone voiced initially values. When the device, in the end, were sent first to customers, it became clear that they do not support more refined data protection technology, which was developed by TRI itself, and there is no promise of a water-repellent coating. Moreover, in the scope of delivery did not have headsets"

[ibug] 08/3/2017 15:50

The cartridge engineers job in January referred to a project team addition. Meaning a long term commitment to the Gas Cartridge space ...phones, drones, IOT devices etc.

[dean windass] 08/3/2017 15:46

There does seem to be increased activity in IEH's "cartridge department" which suggests they have products in mind that will need powering. i can only really think of phones, drones and the UPP2 .... at the moment .... which might be ready to go soon ... I wonder how much the tech and patents from BIC turned out to be worth and how useful it all was.

[ibug] 08/3/2017 15:36

The project is in its second year of development ...Try considering that fact filpster. Lol @derampers


Shareholders could get news at anytime and then the name of the major smartphone manufacturer will most likely be revealed after funding the project with some 5.2 million GBP a year ago.

[dean windass] 08/3/2017 15:35

Well, this appeared in the Daily Mail just over a year ago

"It is intended the programme will build on Intelligent Energy's existing prototype smartphone with an embedded fuel cell and see the firm start licensing the technology.

Read more:

I think ibug gets this stuff from the internet. Ibug normally says where he gets his information from. I think I do too.

I don't think I take old news and dress it up as new but I will cite old sources to show where IEH may be.

The only phone I know that may soon be in production that will use an hfc is the Turing Phone Company Cadenza .... if it ever appears. It was announced last year.

[dean windass] 08/3/2017 15:35

trying to edit out a mysterious double posting

[filster] 08/3/2017 15:25

question for @ibug...

In the article you quoted who is Henri Winland... ?

[ibug] 08/3/2017 15:16

Hyundai Motor Reveals Next Generation Fuel Cell Concept at Geneva Motor Show
author Added by FuelCellsWorks, March 07, 2017

Hyundai Motor showcases future vision for zero-emission mobility
Latest hydrogen fuel cell technology delivers evolved performance and efficiency
Futuristic FE Fuel Cell Concept hints at next phase of Hyundai Motor’s eco-vehicle program

Hyundai Motor today unveiled its futuristic FE Fuel Cell Concept that looks ahead to the next generation of hydrogen-powered vehicles. Having established itself as a global leader for hydrogen transportation, the company has reaffirmed its commitment to fuel cell vehicle development at the Geneva Motor Show 2017. The FE Fuel Cell Concept represents the next step for Hyundai Motor toward realizing its ultimate ambition of creating a zero-emission Hydrogen Energy Society.

[ibug] 08/3/2017 15:06

You sound more like some desperate idiot...try conjecture, opinion and some reading. And stop making stupid comments.

Do some research to understand the context of that article before posting a brainless opinion.

[edwardroger] 08/3/2017 14:04

Where do you get this stuff from, ibug? Do you pull it out of thin air or simply let your imagination run free? Here are the facts: there are no facts! No news but plenty of possibilities. Yes, IEH has the product and the potential. And, yes, I am a shareholder sitting on a substantial loss. But I would very much like to not see you and others like you putting old, old news on these sites and dressing it up as something new. If you know something, fine, share it. But please keep your increasingly random imaginations to yourself.

[ibug] 08/3/2017 09:40

An announcement about a 7Day phone could be made at anytime now as the project has been running for just over a year. This will likely involve designing a thin film HFC.

[ibug] 08/3/2017 08:28

Here is a recap about phones.

Smartphones With 7-Day Battery Life Promised by Fuel-Cell Maker

Jessica Shankleman, Bloomberg, 08 February 2016
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Smartphones With 7-Day Battery Life Promised by Fuel-Cell Maker

A British fuel-cell developer that was first to put the technology harnessing the power of hydrogen into London's distinctive black cab said it's working on a system that would allow mobile phone users to charge just once a week.
Intelligent Energy Holdings said an emerging smartphone maker will provide GBP 5.25 million (roughly Rs. 51 crores) to develop a fuel cell small enough to be embedded in mobile phones.

The technology converts hydrogen into electricity, leaving only water vapor as a byproduct. It's spreading quickly at a bigger scale to drive commercial power generators used by businesses including the furniture retailer Ikea and investment bank Morgan Stanley to reduce emissions and ensure electricity supply.

"Embedding fuel-cell technology into portable devices provides a solution to the current dilemma of battery life," Julian Hughes, acting managing director for Intelligent Energy's Consumer Electronics division, said in a statement. "With consumers demanding more and more from their phones, battery innovation has not kept up."

A fuel-cell powered phone could be on the market in two years if the partnership goes to plan, Henri Winland, chief executive of Intelligent Energy, said in an interview.

"The killer app is a battery with a seven-week refresh life and we think that will appeal to everyone. It's not just for intrepid explorers," Winland said.

Based in Loughborough in central England, Intelligent Energy has been researching energy technology for more than 25 years and has more than 1,000 patents. In addition to work on zero emissions taxis, it also worked with Boeing Co. on the first manned aircraft powered by fuel cells.

The contract with the unnamed smartphone maker will allow Intelligent Energy to further develop a prototype fuel cell phone announced last year. It says that unit is best suited to people living without access to a power grid, such as large parts of Africa.

Intelligent Energy has expanded beyond hydrogen-powered transport to develop stationary back-up systems to power telecom towers in India, and last month signed a letter of intent to develop hydrogen-powered drones.

"What we offer is a solution that is clean and efficient and means consumers could be truly mobile and free from the constraints of the grid," Hughes said.

© 2016 Bloomberg L.P.

[dean windass] 07/3/2017 12:21

Filster .... good points .... good way of approaching things.

As far as drones go, I reckon MMC will tot up their orders for HFC powered drones then order the kit from IEH .... if IEH are making the kit so any drone manufacturer can use it, that's better than just co-operating with one manufacturer .... and anyone using drones will perhaps be able to retrofit HFCs to their gear .... at the moment, air traffic control seems a problem .... once a system of permits etc are organised and a way of policing drones is devised, this should take off .....(no pun intended) but I wonder to what extent drones could make better use of police helicopter budgets ..... someone in a nicked car is less likely to know they're being followed by a drone and when seeking bodies or people, maybe more drones with IR cameras can be deployed compared to the cost of a helicopter.

If the gen sets announced 2 weeks ago sell well, there may be quite a few new orders for them.

[ibug] 07/3/2017 07:22

New. Advancements roll out everyday --- H2 is the futuristic fuel that everyone dreams about -- happening right now across the globe; but the British Government need to wake up about the dangers of pollution instead of just giving it lip service.

New Materials Could Turn Water into the Fuel of the Future
author Added by FuelCellsWorks, March 06, 2017

A new materials discovery approach puts solar fuels on the fast track to commercial viability
Written by Robert Perkins

Researchers at Caltech and Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) have—in just two years—nearly doubled the number of materials known to have potential for use in solar fuels.

They did so by developing a process that promises to speed the discovery of commercially viable solar fuels that could replace coal, oil, and other fossil fuels.

Solar fuels, a dream of clean-energy research, are created using only sunlight, water, and carbon dioxide (CO2). Researchers are exploring a range of target fuels, from hydrogen gas to liquid hydrocarbons, and producing any of these fuels involves splitting water.

Each water molecule is comprised of an oxygen atom and two hydrogen atoms. The hydrogen atoms are extracted, and then can be reunited to create highly flammable hydrogen gas or combined with CO2 to create hydrocarbon fuels, creating a plentiful and renewable energy source. The problem, however, is that water molecules do not simply break down when sunlight shines on them—if they did, the oceans would not cover most of the planet. They need a little help from a solar-powered catalyst.

To create practical solar fuels, scientists have been trying to develop low-cost and efficient materials, known as photoanodes, that are capable of splitting water using visible light as an energy source. Over the past four decades, researchers identified only 16 of these photoanode materials. Now, using a new high-throughput method of identifying new materials, a team of researchers led by Caltech's John Gregoire and Berkeley Lab's Jeffrey Neaton and Qimin Yan have found 12 promising new photoanodes.



John Gregoire tests the properties of newly created materials.

A paper about the method and the new photoanodes appears the week of March 6 in the online edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. The new method was developed through a partnership between the Joint Center for Artificial Photosynthesis (JCAP) at Caltech, and Berkeley Lab's Materials Project, using resources at the Molecular Foundry and the National Energy Research Scientific Computing Center (NERSC).

"This integration of theory and experiment is a blueprint for conducting research in an increasingly interdisciplinary world," says Gregoire, JCAP thrust coordinator for Photoelectrocatalysis and leader of the High Throughput Experimentation group. "It's exciting to find 12 new potential photoanodes for making solar fuels, but even more so to have a new materials discovery pipeline going forward."

"What is particularly significant about this study, which combines experiment and theory, is that in addition to identifying several new compounds for solar fuel applications, we were also able to learn something new about the underlying electronic structure of the materials themselves," says Neaton, the director of the Molecular Foundry.

Previous materials discovery processes relied on cumbersome testing of individual compounds to assess their potential for use in specific applications. In the new process, Gregoire and his colleagues combined computational and experimental approaches by first mining a materials database for potentially useful compounds, screening it based on the properties of the materials, and then rapidly testing the most promising candidates using high-throughput experimentation.

In the work described in the PNAS paper, they explored 174 metal vanadates—compounds containing the elements vanadium and oxygen along with one other element from the periodic table.

The research, Gregoire says, reveals how different choices for this third element can produce materials with different properties, and reveals how to "tune" those properties to make a better photoanode.

"The key advance made by the team was to combine the best capabilities enabled by theory and supercomputers with novel high throughput experiments to generate scientific knowledge at an unprecedented rate," Gregoire says.

The study is titled "Solar fuels photoanode materials discovery by integrating high-throughput theory and experiment." Other authors from Caltech include JCAP research engineers Santosh Suram, Lan Zhou, Aniketa Shinde, and Paul Newhouse. This research was funded by the DOE. JCAP is a DOE Energy Innovation Hub focused on developing a cost-effective method of turning sunlight, water, and CO2 into fuel. It is led by Caltech with Berkeley Lab as a major partner. The Materials Project is a DOE program based at Berkeley Lab that aims to remove the guesswork from materials design in a variety of applications. The Molecular Foundry and NERSC are both DOE Office of Science User Facilities located at Berkeley Lab.

[filster] 06/3/2017 14:25

Sorry @ibug, how do you know it's been filled? It might have just stopped being advertised? or are you guessing?

@Dean Windass I may well try and ask a question about this at the AGM - if possible. Maybe we need to be asking what the ratio or fiscal amount of projects are compared to 'reportable' projects? They should at least be able to confirm amounts of money involved if not the actual named projects or companies.

[dean windass] 06/3/2017 14:14

Yes.All will become clear soon. The work load for the cartridge team must be heavy or growing. There's the UPP2 coming out or it may already be out. There are 2 theories about the UPP. Either it was a commercial flop or they were all sent to Africa to increase mobile phone take up or they were all taken by the military.

It's a shame IEH are involved in so much they can't discuss either because it applies to patents, non disclosure agreements or secret military work.

I know Elon Musk keeps going on about HFCs in cars but Mittel Island is in pole position to supply Spacex.

[ibug] 06/3/2017 10:30

Another job vacancy for a Cartridge Engineer advertised in January has been filled, enlarging the H2 gas Cartridge team based on Mittel Island Florida.

So this signals that important news is on the cards for devices like drones, phones or small IOT devices.

[dean windass] 06/3/2017 10:09

Can see nothing to justify the drop in the share price Maybe big sell will be announced later but, as things are, dropping the share price so much on a few tiny shares looks like treeshake, which suggests a big order being filled ... who knows ....?

[dean windass] 06/3/2017 06:10

Today

"His bullish take on Brexit comes just days ahead of the spring Budget in which Hammond is expected to reveal more than £500m of spending plans to put the UK at the forefront of global technology development.

Hammond will pledge to devote funding for trail-blazing projects like artificial intelligence, robotics, electric cars and cutting-edge ways to manufacture medicines."

We'll see if this ever materialises. Brexit will permit the UK to invest in whatever it wants not needing to put everything out to tender to EEA companies and with sterling likely to fall further, British stuff could be competitively priced.

Off grid robots need power, probably not batteries ..... "electric cars" ....

WHO has announced poor air quality greatest danger to health on Earth .... more than AIDS, Ebola ... causes 1.7m child deaths a year.

We'll see!

[dean windass] 03/3/2017 14:54

What I think is happening .... IEH made the fuel cell for the Hydrone 1800 ... it's being hawked around trade fairs and if and when orders come in, IEH will produce more of the HFCs and fuel cartridges used on the Hydrone 1800 enough to equip the first production run and provide spares. Once a firm order is made, we may get an RNS .... but, if previous statements by IEH are right, the drone thing is happening now.

[dean windass] 03/3/2017 14:06

Oooooooo !!!!!



"Aviation and community exposure: Aviation companies are always designing and creating the next generation of aircraft. Boeing’s drone prototype Phantom Eye stayed aloft fuelled by liquid hydrogen for four days to carry out surveillance and communications missions. BAE Systems is conducting trials to integrate autonomous air vehicles into UK airspace. These days, drone usage is proliferating far beyond military and defence operations, into commercial and civil markets. These new-generation drones are also used for search and rescue, combatting natural disasters such as wildfires, assisting with accident clean-up and supporting criminal investigations. In China, an electric power maintenance company is using drones that "spew fire" to clean rubbish from high voltage powerlines."

Phantom Eye was a collaboration between Boeing and IEH.

Phantom Eye stayed up for 4 days???? And MMC are making such a big deal about 4 hours?

Hmmm .... just found this .... from 2015 ..... it seems, by then IEH already had a fuel and HFC system to fit to drones. It seems they're selling kits for people to mod their own drones.



and there is a bit of kit on the MMC hydrone 1800 which is the same shape as IEH's system. I presume the fuel is hidden under the cover on the top .... a la IEH's modded drone (DJI made that one I think) so the drone IEH modded and demoed was a DJI but it looks like the MMC Hydrone 1800 has some kit strapped to it that looks like IEH modding kits .... could be interesting ... maybe IEH supply kits to any and every drone manufacturer ... that means IEH can have a go at the entire market rathwer than being in bed with just one with an exclusive deal ....