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[thefordprefect] 24/9/2010 12:22

jack1236 - 24 Sep'10 - 10:32 - 6108 of 6110
I can't access the BB.

The BB is by invite only. I as others, have got blocked access at work so cannot send you an invite, sorry. Blocking occurs here on any social networking site (and random others!) so finding a easy access site is difficult. Needed are:
multiple threads
Privacy
Ability to store documents
Links section
Free(?)
Ban idividual option
Not considered to be "social networking"

Suggestions welcome!

It should be possible to set up your access to the group to include copies of posts sent to your registered email address (the blocking prog here also stops access to ALL external email facilities!!). It ios also possible to set up a pin number to enable email posting (I'll give this a try tonight)


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A number of scientists were employed by HML (e.g. a prof who did trials in U of Idahoe) has anyone tried to contact them?

[jack1236] 24/9/2010 11:27

So the Birmingham Post didn't print the Tom's piece.

[mickas] 24/9/2010 11:05

Have a look at Birmingham post page 6 re Dawnglow purchase

Share holding of ak is very important including those held in his pension fund, administrators should have access to company records, which there is a legal requirement for company officers to keep up to date

[jack1236] 24/9/2010 10:32

I can't access the BB.

[tiltonboy] 24/9/2010 10:31

Reading a Regulatory Update, and came across these examples:

The FSA takes more action against UK-listed
companies – The FSA has fined a company
(Photo-Me) £500,000 for late disclosure of
significant information. The company had led the
market to believe that it would win large contracts
however, when one ran into trouble, it delayed
too long in informing the market. Photo-Me said:
"The company maintains that the FSA has
underestimated the real-time difficulties faced
by the company in updating the market on
the possible outcome of the relevant complex
negotiations." Separately, the former Chief
Executive (Henry Cameron) of a listed company
(Sibir Energy) has been fined £350,000 for failing
to disclose accurately the amount of payments
made by the company to a large shareholder.

It shows that action will be taken if enough proof can be obtained. I hope TW will research further some of his points, especially those that show the shareholdings of AK did not match those reported.

[ajax01] 24/9/2010 08:42

Same here tb - I can't access the site from work unfortunately.

[tiltonboy] 24/9/2010 08:32

The secure website is out of bounds for me at work which isn't helpfull, so I will be restricted to posting from home which will be intermittent at best given my nocturnal activities!!!

[kishka] 24/9/2010 08:21

actually, to be precise that's punctuation not spelling

[chicken_george] 24/9/2010 08:12

"please learn to spell its"


Precisely. It's it's not its.

[kishka] 24/9/2010 07:54

lol, sorry tb

[tiltonboy] 24/9/2010 07:38

kishka,

Can you please use capital letters to start a sentence.

[kishka] 24/9/2010 07:27

Pwhite, i've rarely read such a load of complete nonsense ..........and please learn to spell its bear in mind not bare

the administrators were appointed by the directors, they are probably AK's golfing buddies

Companies and Directors can appoint an administrator quickly with the IP's guidance. This does not require a Court Order it requires a fax to be sent to the court with the appropriate forms. Clearly the IP must have done some work to establish if the company is insolvent, should it go into administration, what the process will involve and the planned outcome.

as for your comment "all have lost here, the directors as well as the shareholders, try engaging that pea brain before you write such stupid statements, AK has lost nothing and has by his fraud now obtained the entire assets of HML for a song

i dont know what your agenda is but i would strongly recommend you get back under your rock.

[adenholm] 24/9/2010 06:34

PWhite73 - Sod off, you pompous windbag! A crook is a crook if they play the games the BOD have played. Directors had 10 years of a very generous salary whilst cloaking the facts in lies.
The BOD, in the later stages of the game, know the game was up so decided to feather their nests and tell lies.

I have instructed my solicitor to pursue this, no matter what the cost and it will not be a six figure sum needed to put a spanner in the works.

[pwhite73] 24/9/2010 02:13

Just read through four hundred plus posts and there are one or two facts you guys need to get straight.

1. The only crime AK and IP are guilty of is promoting a failed business model to gullible and somewhat naive private investors. But that's hardly the stuff of a full FSA investigation or a high court trial. Indeed to a great extent that is exactly what the AIM is all about.

2. When it became clear to AK and IP that they could not wring a single drop more from the markets they moved swiftly and stealthfully to protect their own personal investments. Again hardly the stuff the SFO would get involved in.

In my humble opinion the real culprits of private investor losses are the very ones on this thread that are now screaming foul the loudest. Respected posters like Mercier et Camier, Tiltonboy and Mike111D had been warning you guys for years that the whole company was a sham and your hard earned cash was their only ever real source of income.

So where to from here.

There is absolutely nothing you can do. Administrators have been appointed and the assets sold back to AP and IP. Even at £105K HML is still well overvalued. People ask if the assets are worthless how comes AP and IP paid £105K for the company. Don't get your handkerchiefs out now but you have to remember HML represents 10 years of their lives. They are far more attached personally to the company than most of you might care to imagine.

There is something else extremely important you should all bare in mind. The administrators are appointed by the High Court. The first job of the administrators is to report any suspected foul play back to the High Court. The fact they have not done so means you have absolutely no chance of proving such foul play ever took place. Your only option is to mount a legal challenge yourselves. But unless you're all prepared to put a six figure sum into a fighting kitty you can rule that path out.

All have lost here the directors as well as the shareholders. There are no winners. To suggest that AP and IP deliberately engineered the company into administration is the type claptrap akin to talk of million dollar royalty payments. AP and IP wanted HML to become a FTSE100 company. The administration action only started when the game was over.

The only lesson you can walk away with here is to listen to all views. As much as we all love to read positive views on a stock we are holding it is only the negative views that are of any real importance.

[loverat] 23/9/2010 19:19

Well, I have met the TheFordPrefect on three occasions and can testify that he is
one of the most decent and honourable people I have ever met.

Again - wish you all the best whatever you do.

[ajax01] 23/9/2010 19:00

"machinations of rotters."

LOL - what a lovely way of putting it.

[squiresquire] 23/9/2010 17:43

Cheers Mike

Couldnt be bothered to answer Asapex as I heard earlier today he has had his prescription changed to the little blue tablets.

[mike111d] 23/9/2010 17:29

I believe that squiresquire is genuine, they are no doubt just very aggrieved by their losses here, which is quite understandable.

[ajax01] 23/9/2010 16:26

Sadly I won't have a penny to put into shares (even if I wanted to) for many years.