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[zuke.] 30/12/2002 20:24

The supermarkets , or maybe even ourselves are to blame, demanding ever lower prices , these price wars and roll-backs are all very nice , but now we are hearing from Trot the penalties we are paying.
I would welcome the big chains labeling the goods with the place of origin, they may well do already , but I would always buy British , and use my local shops in preference to places like Asda etc.
The buying power of these places is immence , they can almost name the price they "will" buy from farmers.
I won't buy from there mainly because I prefer my local people , and the service is personal, and usually with a smile , and a "Call again!,,Bye!"
I like that , and I think it's worth paying for!
I shop for veg at the farm acoss the way , all good stuff , and it's an organic farm , last time I was in , just before Christmas , The farmers wife gave me a Christmas card , cup o' coffee and a home made mince pie !!
Now wasn't that nice!!

[trotting10] 30/12/2002 19:59

Zuk
e we may not agree on everything but at least we can have a laugh,erogonous some of your points are quite valid ,but farm shops ,only work next to poulation, the real issues are ,farmers getting paid a realistic price for what they produce,or should i say receiving a fair percentage,of what that product retails for,if i have to run a shop ,do gardening,lay fences,cut down trees,just to sub the farm ILL NEED CLONING.

[kingfish] 30/12/2002 18:24

Even before the foot and mouth epidemic British agriculture was already in its death throes. Struggling under the onslaught of successive crises - the effects of the Common Agricultural Policy and the bureaucratic demands of the EU; and the concentration of buying power in the hands of the retail giants - British farming has been brought to its knees. Who is to blame? The government, supermarkets, the CAP, the EU?.

[ridgeback] 30/12/2002 17:51

The call to arms has been noted.

BTW The pro-hunters have more shotguns than the wine bar wimps so be careful.
You have been warned. PLus they dont mind getting their hands dirty when fighting in the trenches.

YOUR COUNTRYSIDE NEEDS YOU

[bomfin] 30/12/2002 17:01

Really,
For the sake of Fox Hunting you would try to bring the country to it's knees.
You're off your f*xing head. Pity help you if someone really tries to oppress or persecute you like the historical land owners did to the people(human beings) for so long.
bomfin

[trotting10] 30/12/2002 16:52

Direct action is the only way to get your message across,and as some body who has never been in trouble in there lives, i would willing ley break the law to preserve the countryside and its traditions.

[kingfish] 30/12/2002 15:34

Pro-hunt militants plot blockade war

Plan to paralyse Britain by cutting fuel supplies and clogging motorways

Mark Townsend
Sunday December 22, 2002
The Observer

A concerted campaign of major disruption is being planned by pro-hunt militants following last week's protests outside Parliament.
Extremists are plotting blockades of fuel depots similar to those that forced Ministers to declare a state of near emergency two years ago. A weekly closure of key motorway junctions throughout the UK is also being seriously considered.

Plans to bring Britain to a standstill follow ugly scenes when pro-hunt supporters attempted to storm Parliament as MPs debated the hunting Bill.

Messages intercepted on the internet by anti-hunt campaigners after the violence indicate hardline pro-hunt factions are preparing for a radical campaign of confrontation and disruption. Members of one radical splinter group, the Countryside Action Network, were known to be in the parliamentary protests during which smoke bombs were hurled and an MP was shot at with a flare.

A move to replicate the fuel blockades - which brought intense embarrassment to the Blair administration - could dwarf the protests of 2000. The Countryside Action Network, for instance, has more than 4,000 members compared to the several hundred activists who masterminded the original fuel blockades.

According to pro-hunt campaigners, the fuel protests would be timed to take advantage of British troops preparing for war as well as capitalising on any future strikes by firemen.

'It only took a hundred or so to blockade the fuel depots, and look at the trouble the Government were in over that one,' said one.

During the original fuel protests, panic buying of petrol closed hundreds of filling stations while emergency services were restricted to all but non-essential calls.

Other plans touted by pro-hunt activists include blocking motorway junctions for half an hour at every fifth junction of every motorway on every Monday morning.

The move would cause unprecedented disruption to Britain's increasingly congested road network.

'Maybe the country losing millions a day might make these so-called leaders of ours listen to the people,' one message from a pro-hunt campaigner read. Another added: 'Action in all the main cities at the same time is the next step.'

Others confirm a damaging split between the Countryside Alliance - which organised a successful march in September that drew more than 400,000 - and hardline factions.

Until now the Countryside Alliance has negotiated with Alun Michael, the Rural Affairs Minister, while urging people to be law-abiding.

However, the organisation has indicated it can no longer control the behaviour of individuals as the Hunting Bill progresses through the Commons. Many believe the alliance has been too conciliatory and increasingly believe 'positive action' is the only way forward.

Janet George, spokeswoman for the Countryside Action Network, said: "The Countryside Alliance don't seem to have the bottle. They don't seem to be prepared to drop their cuddling up to Labour.

'People are starting to realise we have a war on. It's really a case of doing enough to put the wind up the Government without alienating the general public too much. We need to raise the stakes in terms of irritating and inconveniencing the Government.'

George admitted that widespread fuel protests were one option that could be used as 'a vehicle to push our arguments forward'. However, she said she was against any strategy that involved violence and criminal damage.

A harbinger of future disruption arrived in the summer when hunt supporters caused traffic chaos by driving on the M25 at 10mph.

A spokesman for the League Against Cruel Sports said: 'It is clear that hunt supporters, formerly engaged in lawful protest, are becoming increasingly frustrated and angry. They are now willing to step up the nature of their campaign.'

He would not confirm whether security services had approached the league for information on potentially militant hunt groups. But he claimed last week's protests were proof that peaceful protests have been ditched in favour of violence.

[vanie] 30/12/2002 14:37

Zuke
"it's the arrogance of these people who , because we aren't farmers , tell us to mind our own business"
so your not in any shape form or manner being "arrogant" in your view then?
just wondered?