Gvc Share Discussion Threads

[woodhawk] 21/12/2016 13:39

It is quite common to post large trades late - naturally there are rules governing this. You can look them up ifyou're that bothered. This is why is is futile apportioning large trades to 'buy' or 'sell' based on the apparent price.

[ballychan] 21/12/2016 13:25

Fest I believe any trade above the NMS Normal Market Size is 'allowed' to be reported late.

[festario] 21/12/2016 13:19

Another 1m shares, declared late... a full day late in fact.Why does this shares have the majority, yes the majority of its volume declared either at the UT stage (after market closure), or completely out of hours or a different day? Is this normal on any other share? FTSE top 250 or not?

[ballychan] 21/12/2016 11:29

The 3 month chart shows the strong downtrend, constant lower highs.Not sure what it will take to break it.Now the directors have cashed out I'm not expecting any out of the blue good news to pump up the share price.MMs will walk this down to gap fill and trigger the orders that were missed imo

[velod] 21/12/2016 10:33

Volume has been heavy and well above average since the big bear attack day that intraday'd down to 609p-ish. Even the RNS-day rise back up to 660p-ish was above average, but not as high as two days before or after, which were both greater in volume, and both bear days. Now that fund shorters have increased I'm putting it down to that. Maybe they drip fed their short selling into the market to take the shine off each attempted rally?

. . . Whatever, as it's been reported, the dates they say they shorted, will be published. But they're just one entity, one view. Their view is no more accurate than anyone else's and research shows hedge funds perform no better over the long run, than long term investing (in fact worse than long term investing). So if today turns out to be within normal average volumes then might it be safe to assume more "normal" boring market conditions apply? Be they bearish or bullish.

[festario] 21/12/2016 09:57

Shorters seem to be winning the tug of war.Still, never mind, the dividend is unaffected and I don't want to sell any shares.So, I've put a 2000p sell order on my entire holding to prevent them being available to shorters.I suggest you all do the same.

[coppertrader] 21/12/2016 08:55

Shorters seem to be throwing everything at this to keep it at these levels. Marshal mace has upped it short to 0.82% on 16th december. Total declared shorts now at its highest level 1.41%.

[srpactive] 21/12/2016 07:38

More like the big powers moving something down so they
can buy cheaper. I have around ten stocks.

dyor

[srpactive] 21/12/2016 07:38

More like the big powers moving something down so they
can buy cheaper. I have around ten stocks.

dyor

[velod] 21/12/2016 01:52

Oh the Chaos one. Think that's a dig at TA chartist's trying to find patterns amongst the chaos.

[festario] 21/12/2016 00:07

No.... the Chaos one,

[velod] 20/12/2016 23:29

Is No:6 the Take your profit too soon that you're referring to? If so it was from the section about greed. It comes from conversations from some of the wealthiest investors ever - who all more or less said the same thing that they became wealthy from never buying at the bottom and never selling at the top. In other words being too greedy is the main downfall of investors who miss the boat trying to squeeze the last penny and get caught out by sudden market moves ergo - always take profits too soon. Can't say I've ever been found guilty of following that one.

[festario] 20/12/2016 23:12

I love No2, but no'6, I have no idea what it means!

[velod] 20/12/2016 22:54

Festy’s post of 97% of his portfolio in GVC is a timely reminder that there is more than one way to skin a cat. From previous posts I had the distinct impression that one or two on here have a seriously high investment in very, very, few stocks. Whatever your opinion - It IS a recognised strategy.

. . . . Don't put all your eggs in one basket? . . . . Not according to this quote from the book The Zurich Axioms: “Put all your eggs in one basket, and then watch the basket”. So Festy’s following that one. I’m all diversification (Over two dozen in one portfolio and about a dozen in the other) but it says dismissively about that: “By diversifying, you become a juggler trying to keep too many balls in the air all at once.” 

. . . As you may have gathered by now, it‘s a very “dangerous" book for those who may be new to investing (Not many experienced reviewers of the book endorsed it‘s philosophy). You can Google and download it as a free PDF on t’net, but be warned it employs some concepts that won’t sit with what you read in Investor’s Chronicle et al. Here’s a couple of the axioms from the book:

. . . .  “Worry is not a sickness but a sign of health. If you are not worried, you are not risking enough.” 

. . . . “The fact is that fairness is a human concept. The rest of the universe knows nothing of it.”

. . . . “The trick is to disregard what everybody tells you until you have thought it through for yourself."

. . . . “Always take your profit too soon.”

. . . . “Adventure is what makes life worth living, and the way to have an adventure is to expose yourself to risk.”
 
. . . “Chaos is not dangerous until it begins to look orderly."

[frankiethecabbie] 20/12/2016 21:53

https://www.cardschat.com/news/is-gvc-sale-of-kalixa-sign-it-wants-to-talk-takeover-deals-36311

[nurdin] 20/12/2016 19:40

mnomis..quite right.Mine was only intended to be a light hearted comment,with no intention to delve into his personal finance.

[festario] 20/12/2016 17:53

For what it's worth I'm not quite in that exclusive club. I was, before I sold some to fund ill thought out forays into IOF, GKP, OXS, PRG to name just a few. Massive regrets there.Now I hold 69k shares, which represents over 97% of my portfolio.As for my nocturnal situation, I sleep like a LOG!

[mnomis] 20/12/2016 17:40

@ Nurdin, the real question is not what is the £ value of GVC stock (and how do you sleep), but what % of your net worth is tied up in GVC stock, and hence how do you sleep at night?

[mnomis] 20/12/2016 17:38

The other read into timing of management payments was to get it all into the 2016 financial year, where it gets lumped in with lots of deal exceptionals, so does not impact on 2017 earnings and company valuation metrics looking forward. I am fine with it - management have delivered, and happy not in 2017 numbers.

[nurdin] 20/12/2016 16:59

So Festario,you are in for atleast £10k divi? Suggests to me you hold atleast 80k shares worth over half a million at the current price!

Hope you sleep well at night! :o)

[t 34] 20/12/2016 16:42

And first digit is not 1 . hey

[velod] 20/12/2016 15:03

Lol! I hovered over finishing the sentence off to include 5 figures, but thought nah they might not like it as several have posted shares held in qty on here and may not want it repeated. Yes, felt certain there were some 5 figure divi, in one payment recipients on here.

[sogoesit] 20/12/2016 14:07

I have to include the figures after the decimal point to get there but happy nevertheless ;-)!

[festario] 20/12/2016 13:36

In some cases 5 figures mate! ;-)

[velod] 20/12/2016 13:10

Worth repeating the divi info again from that broker coverage report as the question will be asked 100 times by end of Jan/Early Feb - . . . . 12.5p divi to be paid on February 14th. That's a well meaty, substantial, triple figure divi for myself. Looking forward to it. . .

However, for some regular posters on here it represents a divi well into four figures - in one single divi payment! . . . . . . . Nice.