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|How is your alter ego Dynamohum getting on these days?
19 Jan '16 - 15:35 - 17190 of 17233 0 0
Fancy going for a drink Doris ..
20 Jan '16 - 16:01 - 17195 of 17233 1 0
Tomorrow's a Thursday
Oh dear Dynamo , I'm not sure
|Afternoon all, no inside info from Leedskier lately, still hope springs eternal . . . .
|On the other BB, about a year ago I floated expressed the concern that the Intellectual Property rights for GRPH's products should be tied to the company and not hived off so the poor shareholders actually own something. As time goes by I am now very worried there has been no statement that the IP is wholly owned by the company. [EJ] do you think all the valuable assets are currently in play - or will it finally turn out that the company owns nothing of substance?|
|Start of the 2nd week of trading in October and no sign of the "on-going" accounts that the company has threatened to publish.
Party and brewery has a ring to it and as far as I can tell there is not a shred of evidence tthat those persons employed in senior positions purporting to be managers have any competence whatsoever either as businessmen or in the field in which it is assumed that they work. I think if I were the auditor, I would have a pretty good look at every invoice. I wager, that this is exactly what is happening.
There does not seem to be a large customer base and I would therefore not be surprised if, as a result of this delay at best a renegotiation of terms with Scuomi, questions raised on the continuity of GRPH as a viable business and if there is a business left how long it will last.
Were I in the finance team with Scuomi, I would contest every invoice raised and pay a 3rd party to carry out a specific audit of stock held, delivered, used and commissioned.|
|Effectively the AIM rules changed as of the 3rd July.
Both the company and the nomad should have been aware of the changes but probably only realised what they should have advised the exchange once the delisting notice was issued. Bad form from all concerned but maybe they now have a chance is getting the results out asap before the final one month delisting notice would be issued probably about end of November.
The details from companies house covering GRPH can be found here:
The details of the new AIM rules can be found here:
|Actually it could be the annual return which was filed late.|
|Rob that listing would be tied into the fact that the accounts had not been filed by the relevant date. I guess it is automatic.|
|So according to that a striking off action had obviously been ongoing! Yet another piece of news we weren't told about! Only slight good news is that a semi decent reason was shown for it not to happen!What the hell is happening in the background is anyone's guess as we're last to know anything.|
|EJ - good call.
I've been watching from afar with the look back interest of a previous holder.
Sure does stink like cabbage being 'cooked'
And then some.
But cabbage is good for you right?
Roll on October for the latest episode of this compelling series.
Hope you salvage a decent wedge|
|October then! Maybe November or even .. who knows. Ffs|
|The company has six months to get the suspension lifted or be delisted.The suspension was dated circa 29 June.|
|What happens if annual results are not published by end of week, anyone know?|
|Just a few days remaining until yet another month passes without accounts published. No wonder that the NOMAD were distancing themselves from the company when the simplest task, compilation of accounts cannot be fulfilled.
In 2014, the company was bust based on the acid test or quick raitio. It is almost the final quarter of 2016 and the market has not seen sight of the accounts for 2015. In my book, it means that either the company is up the swannee without a paddle or the lifeboat option has been exhausted and the company is still up the swannee.
Much better that investors have the benefit of 100% write off sooner so that this miserable little company cease to pay the managers for their services.
Not sure whether a phoenix will arise, but I will not be backing the managers in any future enterprise|
|EJ the accountants cannot sign off the company accounts as a going concern as without the debt restructuring the company is more or less toast.|
|Approaching end of month. Still nothing. And, funnily enogh, it will co-incide with the date that the next set of accounts are written up to. So, for all thw puffery of leedskier, this is a company that has all the hallmarks not only of going bust, but one where a boiler room scam is under orchestration.
I don't care a hoot if the managers have special titles equivalent to "sir" or "lord" in Malaysia. Bottom line is that the shares are suspended, the managers might well have invented numbers in the first place, have had the greater part of 12 months to fritter everything away and launder the proceeds but we can all be thankful because dear leedskier spews out some soothing drivel.
Had the company been based in the UK, I suspect I might have had a gander at the cars outside. IF THEY WERE 10 yr old Fords, I would have a little confidence that the managers knew how to run a business. If it were stuffed with brand new premium motor cars, I would know that it was simply a superficial outfit.
My hunch is that the company will NOT update the market until October, the update will probably be along the lines that the company is not supported by the NOMAD and that the terms of the "deal" do not satisfy the accounting guidelines commensurate with UK public company publishing. Shares will remain suspended pending removal from public dealing.
As I have been on holiday for that last fortnight, I do not know if my recent email to the company has been answered. I suspect it has been ignored. EDIT - it has. And, I don't care how abrasive my email might appear to be, if I have been swindled by crooks masquerading as managers of a bona fide plc, I have been swindled. I can write the money off, that is not the problem, Where I have a problem is with dishonesty couched through false sense of dignity that is expected in dealing with spivs.
I believe that this is a spiv outfit run by people who are not trustworthy|
|The price GRPH achieves for its non core assets should be helped by this:
This may well be a contributing factor to the current bull market in Malaysian palm oil futures.|
|Still holding here and not the only company I'm holding that keeps shareholders at arms length, but those companies are often the ones with great potential.
Technically, the price action (before suspension) was looking ok - bottom building over the last 12 months. If the price when trading resumes hasn't suffered too much, I think their positive relationship with Scomi will carry them (and us) through to better times.|