Genel Energy Share Discussion Threads

[amaretto] 06/12/2016 21:43

Genel share price down 3.5% on low volume.

Bond price up 1.55%.

Wonder who has called it right, the PI shareholders or the bondholders?

[mr roper] 06/12/2016 20:41

Glencore are not investing billions. You have made that up.

[kmann] 06/12/2016 20:14

Goldman sachs bullish

hxxp://marketrealist.com/2016/12/goldman-sachs-thinks-crude-oil-prices-will-rise/


Also

hxxp://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/IEA-Chief-Expects-OPEC-Deal-To-Work.html

Some of you think you know more than glencore, about to invest billions. KRG need investors to develope pipelines, gas infrastructure etc.

[mr roper] 06/12/2016 19:10

Hawrami telling the chairman of Dno that he knew the risks when entering KRG are staggering. Hawrami was happy to inside trade with the Norwegians. If gets the hump with them the rest are in for a hosing

[amaretto] 06/12/2016 18:40

francoismyname - sorry to hear that. I certainly have my doubts given the illogical continuing fall even after the OPEC deal. However the bond price is rising, the production at Taq Taq is stable(ish), POO is rising, ISIS is on the retreat, payments are continuing albeit sporadically of late, the KRG need new investors for their new blocks so must keep the IOCs on board and the mood music coming from Hawrami and co is reassuring; recognise importance of IOCs, relations good with Turkey, etc. Who knows the future but given the fall is on relatively low volume, I think its just jittery and negative PI sentiment, which can turn in an instant. I might be wrong but if those bond holders are getting more confident then I'm less convinced there is a conspiracy afoot - those bondholders are not stupid, retail PIs on the other hand....

Good luck with your future investments.

[amaretto] 06/12/2016 18:21

Another tweet from conference:

Ranj Alaaldin ‏@RanjAlaaldin
Reassuring words from KRG Minister of Natural Resources.IOCs part of solution not the problem.Kurdistan's progress is their progress #KIOG16

Sounds like Hawrami back peddling a bit and reassuring investors. The guy knows whats what and given the stick he's had at conference and his need for new investors, I'm fairly sure next months payment will definitely be forthcoming.

[francoismyname] 06/12/2016 18:18

Sold out today. Took a 2k loss. Don't mind taking a hit if say OPEC did not deliver a cut or if they had not got a great replacement in for Hayward but those two very significant things did happen and yet we are miles below 80p. Something not quite right and the market acting like their is undisclosed business that a few privaleged people know about.

Good luck to the genuine still in.

[ohdearohdearohdear] 06/12/2016 18:03

ohdear.

60p before the end of the year. Oil price up. Payment made. Genel near all time low. Something is clearly very wrong. Don't let the rampers blindfold you.

Follow Exxon and exit Kurdistan.

[wantmorethan24p] 06/12/2016 17:53

posters like winjammer and a few others am sceptical of them now.

[wantmorethan24p] 06/12/2016 17:50

not bad 7.5% income and you get your cash back as well or get to buy the company for peanuts when a billion would have been spent on CAPEX.

[wantmorethan24p] 06/12/2016 17:47

hxxp://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/g/genel-energy-finance-ltd-7.5-2019

[wantmorethan24p] 06/12/2016 17:46

bascially if you had bought the BONDS you would have been better off.
only lost around 15% and not 90%


PLEASE HELP ME IF AM WRONG.

[losses] 06/12/2016 17:33

Erm you can't compare GLENCORE with this?!?!?

[wantmorethan24p] 06/12/2016 17:14

these are the stocks which i bought .i thought i would make me rich but backfired.


petrel resources
equator exploration
tepel life sciences
motion media
regal petroleum
desire petroleum
osmetech

i can name a lot more but they all went pear shaped.
now i try o do my own research and try to understand how the markets work.
who are the scam companies.


Am in Genel very bigtime because its a producer.Oil price is rising from its lows.it is owed money.
it has debts but they are not payable until may 14th 2019.i think Donald Trump also likes Kurdistan.

if the markets keep dropping it i will keep averaging down.whethet in the 60s or 50s.


just look at GLENCORE the way it has come back from its lows.

[wantmorethan24p] 06/12/2016 17:06

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[carla1] 06/12/2016 17:01

Good Evening fellow INVESTORS... how Cold is the UK :-)

So the EMPLOYED TROLL FAILED AGAIN with his MONDAY £1.20p prediction .. a pity but no surprise considering he is massively underwater with GENL...

Best he do some more work for MALCY !!

[wantmorethan24p] 06/12/2016 16:30

m not worried if the downgrade the reserves at TAQ TAQ

because i can see Genel bidding for a couple more blocks with DNO.

[gnawe] 06/12/2016 16:27

Defies logic this share.

[ozzmosiz] 06/12/2016 16:27

Probably a MM who needs stock

[cyan] 06/12/2016 16:27

Why encourage this "ohdearohdearohdear" 'team' player with his games?

If you ignore he will fade away like the other loser carla1

Brent $53.94

[wantmorethan24p] 06/12/2016 16:24

Brent Crude price rallying now.

[kmann] 06/12/2016 16:22

Yeah, I suppose your going to tell us that ISIS was all Tony Heywoods creation, and the oil price collaps was all down to him too, and as for brexit, and climate change is somthing he does in his spare time.

FFS