Futura Medical Share Discussion Threads

[lbo] 03/10/2022 06:12

Again just saying there is no evidence it doesn’t work. Is not, according to the FTC and ASA, evidence it does work!

Petroc is trying to ‘swindle’ others

His only defence is to keep saying there is no evidence to prove MED3000 doesn’t work. And the reason why the evidence can’t be produced is because the study has not been carried out. But the onus is not on the FTC or ASA to carry out this study or provide the evidence it doesn’t work.

The onus is on those trying to make the questionable claims to have the evidence to substantiate them. And they must according to the FTC and ASA have this evidence before they can make a claim ‘it works’. Which Petroc cannot do. So yet again he has failed to be able to substantiate his claims. He is also according to the FTC ‘misleading’ others when he claims there is ‘plenty of evidence’ MED3000 does work. As he continually fails to disclose the major limitations of the ‘plenty of evidence’. As all the evidence is from inadequately controlled or unblinded studies. So it doesn’t prove MED3000 has had any effect itself. It only proves yet again that ED studies have placebo effects.



Advertising and labeling claims are a primary way companies try to grab consumer attention and distinguish one product from another. As the market becomes crowded, competition has increased and claims have become increasingly aggressive and, sometimes, overreaching. Companies must balance the desire to sell products against the fundamental principle that material claims must be substantiated with the appropriate level of support. If not, companies are at risk of action from regulatory agencies such as FTC and FDA, offices of state attorneys general, local district attorneys, competitors and, of course, plaintiffs lawyers. The primary regulator of advertising claims is FTC. FTC identifies principles that are generally accepted to yield reliable test results. A well-designed and carefully controlled study with the blinding of both subjects and researchers is generally viewed as more likely to yield reliable results. Advertisers must carefully consider each claim and ensure that proper support exists. Otherwise, in this era of ˜claims litigation," a company may find itself on the receiving end of unwanted action from a variety of sources.

[petroc] 02/10/2022 19:17

Still waiting for LiarBO, the proven stock basher, to produce some evidence that states that MED3000 doesn't work. Won't hold my breath though, because that evidence doesn't exist. On the other hand, there's plenty of evidence to say that it does work.

[lbo] 02/10/2022 18:46

Now Petroc the proven liar is trying to rely on poor reporting as his ‘evidence’. Yet all those reports are all given with disclaimers.



Devices are subject to weaker standards than drugs because they are regulated under a different law. The Medical Device Amendments of 1976 was intended to encourage innovation while allowing for a range of review standards based on risk, according to legal expert Richard A. Merrill. An array of corporate lobbying has since prompted Congress to ease regulations and make it easier for devices to get the FDA OK

Journalists need to scrutinize the claims
Journalists have a responsibility to report this lack of evidence, but they often dont. Investigative journalist Jeanne Lenzer, who wrote a book about the under-regulated medical device industry, says more dogged reporting is needed: We really dont know what we are getting with many of these devices

Ninety-nine percent of devices never have to provide clinical data, thanks in part to the 2002 Medical Devices User Fee Act, which requires the FDA to use the least burdensome route

For the few devices subject to a scientific review, the quality standards are flimsy. Randomized controlled trials, the gold standard, are infrequent. Most studies are unblinded, and thus prone to bias. The FDA settles for loosely defined reasonable assurance’that a device is safe and effective, versus its higher standard of substantial evidence for drugs, which require studies with comparison groups that didnt receive the same treatment. Thus, data that would never be sufficient to support the approval of a drug can result in the approval of a device used to treat the same condition, potentially diverting patients from effective drugs to less-effective devices.



De Novo-winning devices often lack effectiveness data, analysis shows

[petroc] 02/10/2022 18:25

'A gel that can cure male impotence has been invented by a British firm – and it works in a jiffy.

The rub-on potion vows to get things up and running in five to 10 minutes.

It contains just alcohol and water, and trials on 1,000 men across Europe have proved to be far from a flop.

Med3000 worked for 60 per cent of them – and the hard evidence has left scientists and doctors stunned that such a basic combination of ingredients could solve a problem for millions of men.

Experts at Guildford-based Futura Medical initially made a gel using ­explosive nitro glycerine, but it failed to detonate trialists’ love lives.

But alcohol, normally blamed for bedroom droops, did the trick. “You put a small blob of the gel on the end and rub it in for 15 seconds,” said Futura senior manager Ken James.

“First the user feels a cool sensation, then it warms up. In about a third of couples, the woman rubbed the gel in. We hope to get it approved this year.”

The firm hopes Med3000 will rival Viagra pills, which take at least an hour to act. “Our gel even works on severe erectile dysfunction,” said Ken. “There have been 12,000 acts of intercourse using it and it has been very well received.”

[lbo] 02/10/2022 18:00

Oh what a proven liar. Petroc is! LOL.

All Petrocs claims are ‘ false and unsubstantiated’. This is according to the FTC. Because all the ‘plenty of evidence’ Petroc the proven liar is relying on. While giving no disclaimers. Unlike Futura who do give disclaimers. ‘did not show that’ MED3000 ‘was any more effective then a placebo’. Petroc has ‘deceptively advertised’ MED3000 to other investors. FULL STOP.

ROFLMAO.



Administrative Law Judge Upholds FTC's Complaint that POM Deceptively Advertised Its Products

erectile dysfunction claims were false and unsubstantiated because the study on which the company relied did not show that POM Juice was any more effective than a placebo

[petroc] 02/10/2022 16:24

FFS, LiarBO, use your comma key! You make yourself. A laughing stock by. Putting in all those. Superfluous full. Stops. Moron. And thank you for repeating my post that there is plenty of evidence that MED3000 does work. I see you still haven't found any evidence to the contrary.

[lbo] 02/10/2022 15:46

ROFLMAO

The FTC, the SMNA and the Courts are not anonymous and all agree without an adequately controlled and blinded study. Then Petroc yet again is just a proven liar. Who has made yet more ‘false and unsubstantiated’ claims

Petroc - 29 Sep 2022 - 14:49:18 - 13525 of 13569

there is plenty of evidence that MED3000 does work. Just because it hasn't been tested against a placebo doesn't nullify the good results it has achieved





Administrative Law Judge Upholds FTC's Complaint that POM Deceptively Advertised Its Products

the prostate cancer claims were false and unsubstantiated because, among other reasons, the study the POM respondents relied on was neither blinded nor controlled.

the erectile dysfunction claims were false and unsubstantiated because the study on which the company relied did not show that POM Juice was any more effective than a placebo.

[petroc] 02/10/2022 13:24

Heh heh heh! Stupid LiarBO can't even see the irony of copy/pasting that stuff about not believing anonymous people on the internet!

[petroc] 01/10/2022 18:18

You know, I'm just going to let your comment sit there and fester, LiarBO. There's no need for me to point out how stupid it is, because it's so blaringly obvious. It's a shame that nobody reads this thread anymore because they could all be having a good laugh at your imbecility. By the way, after you said I was hiding behind anonymity, I challenged you to post your identity. You didn't, strangely.

[petroc] 01/10/2022 11:18

Still using full stops instead of commas, LiarBO. You really ought to get a grip, it might even make your comments less laughable.

[lbo] 01/10/2022 11:12

And the only ‘echo in here’ is in your empty head! As there is very little grey matter to dampen down the voices in your head of all the multi-IDs you have! ROFLMAO

This ‘swindle’ by the rampers is an old one not a new one!



POM Wonderful tends to mention studies that prove its products’ effectiveness in treating those conditions, but the FTC says such claims are “false and unsubstantiated,” because the studies either didn’t show what POM claims, or they weren’t valid studies. In the case of erectile dysfunction, the FTC says the study POM points to actually didn’t show pomegranate to be any more effective than a placebo.

[petroc] 01/10/2022 10:46

There must be an echo in here if LiarBO is hearing messages from multi-ID personalities, because I only posted it once. That would tie in with his other mental health issues, I suppose. That was a good deflection of his though, that thing about magicians and sawing people in half. He's trying to tie in the fact that because he hasn't got a shred of evidence that MED3000 doesn't work, then I'm using that as proof that it does work. Far from it - there's no magic involved in the results of the tests and trials that MED3000 has undergone, where it has shown its efficaciousness in 60% of people that tried it. That evidence has nothing to do with me - it's out there in the public domain. Unfortunately for LiarBO there's no evidence anywhere that it doesn't work, which is why he has to make up rubbish about magical tricks. No doubt in his own mind that's a valid argument.
Glavey, I don't usually answer your comments because they are so pathetically pointless they're not even worth reading, but this time I will. Yes, as an LTH I am disappointed MED3000 is not in the shops yet, because when it is I expect to sell my holding for a decent profit. I've already taken a good amount but I'm still waiting for the big one. I expect LiarBO will jump on that and start screaming about pumping and dumping etc, because he's forgotten that this a BB for private investors to discuss their holdings. He sold his 5 years ago at the bottom of the market and lost everything, which has twisted his outlook and now he thinks he's the messiah, warning people not to be as stupid as he was.

[glavey] 01/10/2022 05:19

Pet, are you disappointed that you can't obtain MED3000 in the shops yet?

[lbo] 30/9/2022 21:43

LOL

According to Petroc and his ramper multi-ID personalities. If nobody can prove the magicians don’t actually saw their assistants in half. Then that’s evidence they do saw them in half! Its proof, at least it is in his simple mind. That the ‘magic’ is all real and there is no illusion! Seems he also believes in mind control too. So no wonder he believes MED3000 itself has any effect beyond any placebo arousal gel would in a blinded direct efficacy comparison study for ED. ROFLMAO



What standards are applied to evidence? The position taken by the ASA is a tried and tested one which has developed over the course of many years. It reflects the opinion of the wider scientific and academic community, rather than judgements made solely by the ASA. There are many aspects that are taken into consideration when evidence is reviewed and each claim is judged on its merits alongside the evidence presented to support it. Evidence submitted for health claims should normally include at least one adequately controlled experimental human



POM Wonderful tends to mention studies that prove its products’ effectiveness in treating those conditions, but the FTC says such claims are “false and unsubstantiated,” because the studies either didn’t show what POM claims, or they weren’t valid studies. In the case of erectile dysfunction, the FTC says the study POM points to actually didn’t show pomegranate to be any more effective than a placebo.