Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Fiberweb LSE:FWEB London Ordinary Share GB00B1FMH067 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 101.75p 0.00p 0.00p - - - 0.00 05:00:10
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Support Services 300.1 6.5 2.1 48.5 176.62

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25/9/2013
13:23
bearbully80: does anybody understand cfd trading? today's rns says there were two more long cfd bets increased again yesterday, both now covering well over 2m shares each, with "price per unit" of 102.5p and 102.65 respectively. does the share price have to go back above Blackstone's 102p offer for these cfd trades to show a profit?
13/9/2013
14:24
bearbully80: ... so no offer yet, and nobody else asking to see the books. To everybody complaining about how low the offer is: what do you think will happen to the share price if PGI waits until 4:59PM on Tues and says, "sorry mate - we don't like the colour of the rug in your downstairs toilet"? What a great way to legally screw your competitors! have a good weekend
08/9/2013
14:14
joshuawu: Disclosure: I hold Fiberweb shares for the long-term because of their dividend policy, quality of business, brands, products and experienced and proven management, the safe looking value in the shares based on their post-hygiene-divestment balance-sheet, sensible and realistic looking targets and improving prospects, Avgol's 100p offer some time ago even when Fiberweb was in a very poor health back then and what Petropar recently had to pay for part of Fiberweb's hygiene business which was 30% more valuable already than the offer PGI have been invited to deliberate on. If I am permitted to offer an opinion using such a pseudonym here (otherwise, moderator, please delete), I may begrudgingly accept an offer of 97.5p + 15p. The 15p covers the money from shareholders for a right's issue which annihilated the 107p share price at that time, and, also includes the upcoming dividend. Already 112.5p is a bargain for asset-stripping or integration, like PGI could do or other competitors, or some investment experts. Below this level, it is not even a serious proposition when compared with revenues (175p per share PER ANNUM) or assets (today's NAV 100p).
03/9/2013
19:44
bearbully80: i hope this doesn't sound childish but do you lot think Fiberweb's share price will be higher or lower than 97.5p in early 2014 if PGI's current offer is rejected by shareholders and no counter bid actually materializes? What if PGI don't bid?
06/8/2013
08:38
bearbully80: Paul, I appreciate your extensive reply but it is only what you have said before and I understand this "gut feel" approach and agree with it. My question was more about why my calculation, which is done exactly as I understand how companies should be valued (discounted cash flows) I get such a big PER (20) which gives a fair price of 134p assuming 6.7p EPS . I did not pluck that PER of 20 out of the air, I calculated it. If you have knowledge in such calculations, please review the logic and calculation of my post and tell me where it went astray! I repeat the logic below to save some time for anybody that has such knowledge and experience with this sort of calculation and has time to help me understand what I got wrong: The board's medium-term target for margins is 8-10%. The CEO reiterated management is confident of meeting the board's targets. The company recently announced a "Long-Term Incentive Plan" (RNS 8162E) where 1 million shares will be shared between the CEO, FD and the Director of Business, at nil cost, in May 2016. If we assume that one measure of performance for this award is this margin target being met, say 9% by 2016 interims, starting from today's 6% actual-margin, at least 15% earnings-growth per annum is required for 3 years. If you consider 10% to be a good annual return, then the fair FWEB price-earnings-ratio (PER), assuming the above mentioned 15% earnings growth for 3 years followed by a benign 3% earnings growth per annum thereafter, would be 20. With an expected 2013 EPS of 6.7p, that would indicate a fair share price of 134p for FWEB.
06/8/2013
06:06
paulypilot: Hi bearbully80, I think a PER of 20 is a bit of a stretch, starting as we are from a PER of about 10! In my view we should be looking for a re-rating to a PER of about 13-15, on the back of solid interims just announced, and economic recovery in the USA & UK, which combined comprise 59% of FWEB's total sales. Based on consensus forecasts of 6.3p this year, and 7.4p next year, that translates into a share price of 82-111p. So barring something unforeseen happening, I reckon there's a fairly easy 30-40% gain to be had here, from the current 77p share price, and moreover we receive an excellent dividend yield whilst we wait. With an excellent Balance Sheet too, the downside looks well protected - i.e. if they did have a bad year, then they could continue paying the dividend, and restructure without having to worry about debt, because there isn't any! It's not the most exciting thing I've ever seen, but looks a very nice low risk, reasonable reward type of thing that is overdue a re-rating. DYOR as usual, just my opinion. Regards, Paul.
05/8/2013
23:25
bearbully80: sharw, Paul and others who can help - I have been working on this every free moment I got since Sunday afternoon but I still make the fair value of FWEB 134p - can you please review my logic below? The board's medium-term target for margins is 8-10%. The CEO reiterated management is confident of meeting the board's targets. The company recently announced a "Long-Term Incentive Plan" (RNS 8162E) where 1 million shares will be shared between the CEO, FD and the Director of Business, at nil cost, in May 2016. If we assume that one measure of performance for this award is this margin target being met, say 9% by 2016 interims, starting from today's 6% actual-margin, at least 15% earnings-growth per annum is required for 3 years. If you consider 10% to be a good annual return, then the fair FWEB price-earnings-ratio (PER), assuming the above mentioned 15% earnings growth for 3 years followed by a benign 3% earnings growth per annum thereafter, would be 20. With an expected 2013 EPS of 6.7p, that would indicate a fair share price of 134p for FWEB. Search for "money chimp pe ratio calculator" for an easy to use PER calculator. Add to the equation the cash (which when invested properly should improve earnings further) and the expected recovery in Fiberweb's main markets, the benefits of the big capex projects, on top of the optimism for their latest innovative products and new "talent" they have taken on, this seems like the place to be. I am not much good with formulae so please do point out, and if you can, correct the errors in my logic. 134p and 76.5p are not very close.
05/8/2013
01:04
golden silence: Dear Pauly Pilot, You'r writing reflect general good mood. I don't see falling some more iether. But before to put some more of money for FWEB review lastest 20 director deals of millions selled. Balance sheet is not so much strong as seem on quick look iether. 3.8M US tax payment just they have find out (we all discover unexpecteds sometime) and 4.5M cost of Terram India and they will to pay more if they want remainder, if make a success from it, add "change working capital" so cash can be zero on 2013 end, no problam. So subtract next acquisistion, "10-15M", they wish: find 10-15M in debts. Money back to shareholder carrot is rotted under such circumstancing, with 1* gearing target. No body apart of DuPont have possibility buy them in post-disposal shape, thereof takeover too much even for pray on, and like slides show during CEO "Outlook" speach, not possible Fiberweb dispose of more bits without adversle affect tiny margins else-where. This slides is of interims presentation, on Fiberweb website, and very nice. Intention good, strategy clever. Like you sayed, sensible investment for yield, and managers might avoid accident for jeopardese share price, but before directors buys shares, I do not wait too much gains over so-so yield. If directors to start again to buying significant volume, anybody with cash to follow, quickly, probably and maybe will have nice time! Only thing other I do imagine helping recover is find unique innovation up their sleeve. DefenCell could be the one they sayed, but they never milk cow. If there wered such product on pipelines, you should expect directors re-mortgage of home for to buy shares (not just waiting waiting waiting new shares bonus every 2,3 years, and sell half for pay tax, all on expense of their share holders). For this share today, just one key indicator exist which is directors buying. If non, "good" yield could drowned by oscillating in 85p to 72p share price. I pray for dip again tomorrow so you buy with good price. Good luck fine gentleman, the fund you are advice to invest and to your follower. Excuse my accent of English. I not English and drink big whisky before think to invest. Golden
06/11/2012
06:02
lionelw: insipiens - I read your screenplay twice but still have no idea what you are on about. It looks like there is a point to it, but I don't get it. And it seems to have some humour in it too, but that went over my head too. Did you not say you have closed your interest in FWEB? Are you here just to make friends? Do you have any opinion on where the FWEB shares go from here and your reasons for that? V11SLR - is there any way to confirm the Henderson Global Investors short position in FWEB and to understand what their reasons are for expecting yet further weakness? (according to the FT, they held 6.41m or 3.02% in FWEB as of 29 February 2012) Would they not have issued something publicly to stir up fear and uncertainty to improbe their chances of the share price moving down further still in their favour? At what price do you think will they have to buy (2.8m shares) to close their short? Obviously things are getting interesting again and I am convinced there will be a big move - if they are getting close to the promised margins then it will shoot up fast, if they are still not able to make any money from 320m sales even when free of the huge debt interest and the massive restructuring costs then it will drop even faster. We'll see who has got it right, HGI or HVS. Then there is the huge anticipation for the special divi and its potential game-changing impact on the share price just to make things more complicated for investors. hvs - don't listen to anybody here (especially me - I just think I know it will move sharply, but who knows which way!) just do what you think is right for your money ... and keep buying, LOL
15/3/2012
09:31
lionelw: pj - where did yo uget 80p from, or was that a typo and you really meant 60p? bs - why don't you leave hvs alone? hvs - why not say something about the company or shares every now and then? insipiens - what's going to happen to the FWEB share price?
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