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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Fiberweb LSE:FWEB London Ordinary Share GB00B1FMH067 ORD 5P
  Price Change Price Change % Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00 +0.00% 101.75 0.00 0.00 - - - 0 05:00:10
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Support Services 300.1 6.5 2.1 48.5 176.62

Fiberweb Bulletin Board

DateSubjectDiscuss
27/9/2013
16:27
Does anyone know about the timescale of the offer.? In other words, if we hang on, when do we get paid by Polymer Group?
by gregsc on Fiberweb - time to take note?
25/9/2013
16:02
Sorry, BB80, I cashed out at 102.5p the other day. It looks a done deal to me.
by wjccghcc on Fiberweb - time to take note?
25/9/2013
16:00
no news from Fiberweb or Blackstone, all quiet here too, and i seem to be stuck in a monolog, so not much more point asking questions here - has everybody else cashed in? i am still hoping to get a fair price, somehow, but despite some reasons for optimism, i know it could go either way. Petropar paid 229m (see below) for a much smaller chunk of the business than blackstone wants to take for 185m. the remaiinder of Fiberweb that Blackstone wants has stronger sales, margins and much better and real growth prospects than the part Petropar paid for (the lion's share of fiberweb's hygiene business only) almost 2 years ago. thanks to those of you that helped with my questions and tried to follow my impartial (?!) arguments, and as usual, do your own sums and research. all the best with your investments - and never forget, it's only money ;) " the enterprise value of the transaction is approximately £229 million." hxxp://www.sustainablenonwovens.net/index.php?option=com_content&id=11191 remember Fiberweb also have a lot of cash in the bank now too, so Blackstone's offer is actually 10-20m even lower than 183m!
by bearbully80 on Fiberweb - time to take note?
25/9/2013
14:23
does anybody understand cfd trading? today's rns says there were two more long cfd bets increased again yesterday, both now covering well over 2m shares each, with "price per unit" of 102.5p and 102.65 respectively. does the share price have to go back above Blackstone's 102p offer for these cfd trades to show a profit?
by bearbully80 on Fiberweb - time to take note?
24/9/2013
15:44
thank you sharw. so tomorrow, they can hopefully stop confusing everybody with the 103.2p nonsense. so ... the Blackstone offer, as of 16:30 today, is worth exactly 102p per share (~30% below what Petropar paid).
by bearbully80 on Fiberweb - time to take note?
24/9/2013
15:01
The dividend will be paid on 1/11 regardless of the progress of the scheme.
by sharw on Fiberweb - time to take note?
24/9/2013
08:49
dear sharw and paul, does everybody with shares at the close today (tomorrow is xd day) get the 1.2p dividend even if they sell tomorrow or do they now need to hold their shares to the bitter end and sell only to PGI in order to get their dividend? silly question maybe, but i am genuinely confused! holders must be hoping for a white knight... even somebody that will pay the same as what Petropar paid in 2011, 229m (130p), for a much smaller and dull part of the Fiberweb business would be better than this 183m nonsense (102p), for a remaining business 50% bigger than what Petropar bought, that now also has millions of pounds in the bank and boasting much better prospects. but time is not on our side as Blackstone keeps mopping up shares on the cheap and i am starting to think the only chance now is if our shareholders decide to reject the board's easy-way-out recommendation, but that might mean an immediate 20p drop if Blackstone refuse to improve their bid. maybe those big, long cfd play's announced on RNS (Henderson's look like they are genuinely hedging an existing short position but the others, as far as i can make out, look like they are betting on the price going significantly above the current 102p offer) can give some clues, or at least some blind hope! that and the buyer at 103.25p yesterday.
by bearbully80 on Fiberweb - time to take note?
23/9/2013
15:48
Possible typing error in RNS. Reports trade on Friday at 121p? Old Mutual PLC Form 8.3 - Fiberweb Plc Date : 23/09/2013 @ 15:25 RNS Number : 6735O Sale -204,345 121p
by joshuawu on Fiberweb - time to take note?
23/9/2013
14:40
Date : 23/09/2013 @ 14:07 RNS Number : 6566O Cheyne Capital Management (UK) LLP 23 September 2013 Derivatives (other than options): CFD 1,791,671 1.03% CFD Increasing a long position 1,280,000 102.80p
by joshuawu on Fiberweb - time to take note?
23/9/2013
13:46
Date : 23/09/2013 @ 12:42 RNS Number : 6277O Lemanik Asset Management S.A. Stock : Fiberweb (FWEB) Derivatives (other than options): 2,080,000 1.20% CFD Increasing long 100,000 102.50p
by joshuawu on Fiberweb - time to take note?
19/9/2013
14:39
royaloak - does this sound familiar? they seem to have caught on to your technique! does that cfd news just on rns mean then that these gentlemen also are expecting Blackstone must increase its bid above 102.5p? what would such a cfd deal (long on 1.9m shares at a strike price of 102.5p) cost and what can they make if, for instance, the price goes to 127p, like Petropar paid when they bought most of Fiberwb's Hygiene business? bet it's quite a pretty penny, but I hope they make it because then we would get a a more realistic price then too.
by bearbully80 on Fiberweb - time to take note?
19/9/2013
14:10
CFD - bet or hedge? RNS Number 4375O13 Lemanik Asset Management S.A. (2) Derivatives (other than options): 1,980,000 1.14% CFD 250,000 Increasing long 102.50p
by joshuawu on Fiberweb - time to take note?
19/9/2013
12:30
sharw, then maybe jeffian is actually right; unless there is a competing bid, which we would probably have to see this week or it will not have any chance of success with Blackstone probably mopping up all the shares it can at 103p and below, this is looking increasingly like a done deal. at a total guess, Blackstone may have already gobbled 15% of the shares by now. they also have irrevocable rights on 35% more of the shares, as long as a bigger bid does not come along. if there is no competing bid, which looks like increasingly unlikely, Blackstone only need another 25% of the shares' owners to vote for their 102p bid, and also probably just a couple of hundred small shareholders, or much less if what you say about nominees is in effect, which drastically reduces the power of the little shareholder. an interesting question people may want to ask themselves is: if somebody offered Blackstone 130p for each of their Fiberweb shares they just bought, would they sell? Evan at an immediate 30% profit, I bet they would not. and neither would I at below a fair price as long as I am not forced to!!
by bearbully80 on Fiberweb - time to take note?
19/9/2013
12:19
bearbully80 - in theory, yes lots of people with one share each could influence. However, these have to be in your own name (not nominee) and so the dealing cost would completely outweigh any benefit. AFAIK most nominees are pooled and so 'Brokers Holdings PLC' will appear as the shareholder with one vote in that section even though it represents dozens or even hundreds of different individuals.
by sharw on Fiberweb - time to take note?
19/9/2013
11:45
sharw, since 50% of all holders have to vote yes for Blackstone to be able to pull off this bargain-of-the-century at 102p (please confirm that I understood right), it may be worth people holding out for a fair price for their Fiberweb shares to buy a share each for the wife and kids, and the Sunday cricket and football team members, at 103p each; that's a lot of votes for under 50 pounds. LOL, just kidding. It would probably not be considered very ethical (but actually, I don't really see why not - the shares are there to be bought, and share holders get a vote) and I am sure no prospective bidders would ever consider such a stunt either!
by bearbully80 on Fiberweb - time to take note?
18/9/2013
23:50
bearbully, It's the other way around. The fact that PGI already have 35% in their pockets plus a Board recommendation is a huge disincentive to anyone else to offer. Bidding is a time-consuming and expensive pastime which is why bidders like to wrap up negotiations with key shareholders and get a Board recommendation before going public. I can understand why "15-50% upside" might make you hold, but it's not going to happen, and I can't believe 1p makes much difference either way. Some people will wait for the 103.2p to drop in their laps via takeover and dividend over the next couple of months, other will take very slightly less off the table now and maybe put it to better use in the meantime. It's a matter of choice.
by jeffian on Fiberweb - time to take note?
18/9/2013
19:14
Blackstone Group issued the RNS yesterday but there hasn't been one from FWEB. Doen't make any difference just odd
by makinbuks on Fiberweb - time to take note?
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