Environ.Recycle Share Discussion Threads

[tsk 1] 06/12/2010 17:00

Hiding eh?

[tsk 1] 06/12/2010 16:55

2jinxed -

It has also been posted by me, three quarters of an hour ago.

Stop pinching my posts.

(I'm counting)

[2jinxed] 06/12/2010 16:51

This has been posted on iii by redcatscam

Clarkes of Walsham for a 12mm board it will cost you £44.82 + vat so as good as £45.50 a sheet, I think they will stay on the shelf.

[tsk 1] 06/12/2010 16:50

2K will expand slowly (very slowly). ENRT will expand even slower.

[2jinxed] 06/12/2010 16:25

THE FIRST ONE I HAVE POSTED BEFORE BUT FEEL THAT IT NEEDS ANOTHER AIRING, someone is making it somewhere and selling it somewhere, so it must mean that PIM works and is making royalties.

Production at the Luton plant for EcoSheet is expected to start later this year with a further 10 plants planned across the UK, capable of producing 4M sheets annually - this represents about 20% of UK total annual plywood imports


The above reads what? It does not say that 1 factory will make 4 million boards or does it? It would seem logic to me that if you have 40 moulds that you would make the boards of different thickness, to suit your clients needs, I would not be surprised if 2K will be making other products at various factories in due course.

I don't understand the logic or reasoning for anyone who purports the he she does not have a share interest goes to the length and breadth of phoning a company up and indeed posts posts, incredible, what a waste of time and breath..

2K will expand and fast.

TSK 1 and start-up companies can't get the funds they need.Simple go to Belgium they give 3 when you ask for 2, but, you need a good story, and, a working line or two..

Good to see this thread is jollying along.

[times104] 06/12/2010 15:01

iasike...you missed the obvious ''flying carpet'' comes to mind............lol

[iasike] 06/12/2010 14:40

2jinxed, all fitting into place now, Luton airport, Flying pigs & eco sheet could be used as the matress

[2jinxed] 06/12/2010 14:13

2jinxed pigs and flying come to mind.well we do have steam and smoke so anything is possible, time will tell!!

[quinten hann] 06/12/2010 13:58

Morning Bluebelle.

[mark30] 06/12/2010 13:56

not to mention finnished goods :0)

[phoenixs] 06/12/2010 13:53

iasike,
I understand that they will have 40 moulds. The area needed to house the equipment for manufacturing of the boards is only approx 1/3 area, the main part is for waste separation.

[iasike] 06/12/2010 13:52

bskiny1, based on 2k's production, and royalty payments for 2011 this will not put enrt anywhere near profitability for 2011 what value for future earnings?
I obviously view this as risky at the moment.

2jinxed pigs and flying come to mind.

[2jinxed] 06/12/2010 13:16

maybe 2K has another factory, nearby?

[bskiny1] 06/12/2010 13:14

Anyone any idea how much this could value the shares at...just the ecosheet production that is

[iasike] 06/12/2010 13:02

2 jinxed, well it does say it is 2k so have to assume it is, and it does look like an 8' x 4. mould. I know someone who has recently been to the factory so
will verify.

They have 10 moulds in at present, doesn't look to me that the factory could take
40. I know thats a small picture, but take a look at the factory on google earth,
I think someone posted a link.

cheers
iasike

[iasike] 06/12/2010 12:51

times104, thanks for your reply, I do accept that the PIM process could be successful in many other applications, and possibly with 2k on the flat sheet.
My big question mark with them is volume.

I wouldn't call my figures guesswork, they are my estimates taken from national statistics sheet material imports, and my experience in the plywood industry.

[buggy] 06/12/2010 12:31

Hi Times,

I am not really known for being a trader so when I tried ... this is what happens.

Anmyway I have a few million of these so I have plenty left to run. Just thought that I will trade 200K and if the price drops by 0.5p I would buy back in and bank 1 grand ... but ...


Sold 200k at 4.37 thinking that it may have ran out of steam and will drop back to about 4p.

Well that is the last time I will attempt such an exercise on this share.

[times104] 06/12/2010 12:21

Hi Buggy sory to hear your 'bad' news hope it hasn't hurt'financially' too much.

Me? very glad to say I am now over break even, only just, but after 5/6 years very relieved.Chatting to one of my pals the other day and he said ''well in my opinion you are only guilty of being in far, far too early''.Guess he was right on that.And then he added ''mind you those that do usually make a killing'' I hope he's right on that too.
Time will tell and of course provided Bluebelle et al leaves some for us lesser mortals.

[2jinxed] 06/12/2010 12:11

Hells Bells great balls of fire!!

Buggy you aint serious? are you?

[times104] 06/12/2010 11:52

DING...............5p............and rising............

[buggy] 06/12/2010 11:34

Bluebelle,

I think you owe me some money.

Took your advice and sold some hoping to buy them back cheaper but the share price just kept on going north.

[2jinxed] 06/12/2010 11:31

The third picture down is it bigger than an 8x4? judging from the man in the background, what do you think?

[2jinxed] 06/12/2010 10:53

Iasike am not to sure about your quote on the amount of lorries required, I would assume that the recycled plastic comes to 2K ready to use. I do believe it muted on MW site that the recycled plastic comes in bags; lets assume they are capable of carrying 1 tonne.

If 40 Tonne trialer lorries were used then 2. Something lorries a day would achieve the 2500 tonnes per month; same difference how many lorries per day nationally is required to transport the ply sheets? Hundreds I would have thought.

Salaries well see my early post job centre for a fork lift driver 12 k supervisor about 24k, but, yes I do see your points on the RNS announcements, how do you know how many lines are in at Luton? Or is it hear say here, and there?

Surely there must be some merit if and I use the word IF 2k is employing 70 personnel then they must be making something, and indeed more than 500 sheets per day, otherwise I would have thought 2K would go bankrupt!!

I do think that 2 K has been asked to keep the lid on things; perhaps the new patent had something to do with it, and was longer coming etc.

I do feel that enrt can and will pull a few rabbits out of thee old hat, and probably very soon..We may all be shocked!! and KB will be sitting in his leather recliner giving us all the v sign. One lives in hope.