Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Dyson Group LSE:DYS London Ordinary Share GB0002905007 ORD 25P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 16.25p 0.00p 0.00p - - - 0.00 05:00:10
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Construction & Materials 63.9 -13.5 -36.0 - 5.37

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21/10/2013
14:31
ansc: Who's a clever boy then?!!!! So all us shareholders need to do now then is sit back and wait for the share price to go soaring skywards! (lol)
14/3/2012
17:27
clangor2: I see that someone took a gambler's punt on DYS yesterday buying 27.5k @ 7.2p, they might have been better off going to Cheltenham Races this week instead ! The company must report their 10/11 results by the end of the month otherwise their share price could well be suspended ..... would we notice any differnce ? At least the veil of secrecy re the Saffil sale details will have to be lifted then and shareholders informed. I wonder how many skeletons will come tumbling out ? Intriguing.
15/6/2009
06:21
garth: Ball Deap, Divi has been in recent years been 3.4p for the year. The issue is the debt and ongoing negotiation with banks. Surplus assets should in time cover a significant chunk of the debt. Pre-recession and automotive implosion earnings potential was judged to be around 16p eps. The market cap is low - the overall valuation incl the debt is around £40m. Last year they made about £6m The question is at what point and under what terms they renegotiate the debt and what the outlook is like for next year. The gearing situation is such that the share price could increase by 600% from here but the overall valuation (incl debt) would only have doubled. It is a question of risk. All IMO - quickly bashed out with no direct reference to the figures - just what is in the head. Do your own research. G.
05/6/2009
07:56
gordonbrown: I'm expecting a jump in the share price around 11.30 once news of the share holder approval is released. I did think that there might be more conversations here today. The circular contains proposals, for which shareholder approval is required, to increase the limit on borrowings imposed by Dyson's articles of association in order to be sufficient for the Group's borrowings requirements and also to ratify any breaches of the borrowings restriction that may have occurred since 31 March 2008. The EGM is to be held at 11.00 a.m. on 5 June 2009 at Buchanan Communications
01/6/2009
07:54
sharw: garth - EGMs are normally a formality so I doubt whether there will be a short-term effect. If there was any chance that the resolutions would not be passed then the price would have crashed as it was made clear that if they are not then the company will go into administration. The next significant events for the share price will be- a) the conclusion of discussions with the banks b) the outlook section of the preliminary statement (we know the results for last year will be dire). (and not necessarily in that order!)
14/5/2009
11:12
kajshares: My assessment of DYS: Pls note I am not an expert, this are my humble views. All kind and polite replies are welcome) I think sharw is spot on- in respect of the EGM. Barclays bailed out this week. That suggests that they refused to give DYS anymore money. I still think this is a reasonable long term play. They have invested heavily in the electric car, which is very likely to be the future. The key is the technology. We also have to remember that the chemical sector is currently in turmoil. (pls see DYS' competitors- all in the gutter) This company was also been working very closely with GM in the past. If GM surts out its finances and retains its relationship with DYS, it will provide the support DYS needs to change its strategy. Once GM's problems are sorted, the share price will become stable and DYS would undoubtedly survive. If this company survives, it would definitely pay the pension. I will be holding for 3 years. It could easily be 2000X @ £3.00. I think it could be achieved by 2012.
28/1/2009
06:57
garth: Gordon, Its been a while since I've been called a ramper to my face - you are too kind :0) "Twaddle" seems a little ill-founded though. Dyson were profitable in the first half - as you will see from their interim statement. I must appologise for my pe figure though - forecasts have been pulled back in the last month from 6.1p to 4.1p for the year. So they are actually on an astonishingly heady 4x forecast earnings - not 2.5 times as previously stated. The point is that this is a business which has been able to provide double-digit eps and pay 4.3p of divi. Dyson have been anticipating further growth via US legislation coming into force in 2010. Barack Obama has appeared to clear the way for that legislative pull to begin to take force somewhat earlier by handing further discretion to individual states. The question has been over the recession period in the middle and whether trading in that period might be severe enough for Dyson to trigger a breach of banking covenants. Lord Mandelson has announced the underwriting of debt for automotive suppliers in just that situation - normally profitable, with good prospects and contributing technology towards building a greener industry. CAT shields, diesel particulate filters and metal-matrix composites all help to improve air quality and improve efficiency. Saffil in fuel cells offers another green credential. Add in neutron absorbers and crucibles for the manufacture of solar cells on the energy side. So whether from the perspective of your own trading position you happen to like it or not (and clearly it is 'not')events in the US and the UK over the last two days have reduced the risk profile and improved the prospects for these shares - FACT. On that basis there seems to be good reason to assume that when players in the market begin to process that we should see an accompanying rise in the share price. Dyson may or may not prove to be profitable for the year - that is largely out of their hands. What has become clearer though is a level of support available to ensure that they are still trading when the good times return. At that point there is every reason to expect that they can produce 10-16p eps and return to a divi which would be an equivalent to 25% yield at the current price. Gordon - kindly take the time to to make a clearly evidenced response should you decide to post - don't want any twaddle now. ;0) Kind regards, G.
24/6/2008
22:11
garth: md, When did you first buy/start watching? Your post hits on just the reason why I believe we are going to see potentially rapid gains in the share price. I ask when you began to watch because these volumes - and usually considerably less - are the sort that we have become used to over the last few months. Tiny automated trades of 250 shares have consistently taken out the thin order book and driven the price down. I do not believe that we have seen any real depth of market since before we hit 140p on the way down. Just a consistent dribble of small volume sells with no real buying interest and endless falls. Newton sold a few, Aviva and Artemis added a few. "the volume of shares today in no way warranted the rise we got which makes me very interested" My response is that the volume sold on the way down in no way warranted the fall. In that respect, todays volumes actually did warrant the rise (proportionately) and similar volumes are likely to bring similar rises. Who wants to sell their shares valued at 5x profits and 0.5x sales with a 5% divi attached? There is no real stock around. And there hasn't been for much of the last few months. Sometimes you haven't even been able to buy 100 shares! There has been uncertainty around the stock while Patrick Lammers' review took place. In 36 hours the results of that review are due to be unveiled. The current share price discounts absolute failure as regards Carolite along with a major downturn in the current core business. But the reality (see a few posts above) is a growing order book in anticipation of new legislation on emissions in the US, a new director appointed to unlock the potential of the surplus property, a number of new products expected to begin to contribute this year and, from the pre-close trading statement: "Assessment of Carolite(TM) continues and consultants from Philips Technologies have been engaged to assist with this. A prospective customer is also currently undertaking performance tests on Carolite(TM)." So all in all a little too much negativity surrounding the stock - all given the semblance of reasonableness by a seemingly endless fall of the share price on persistent tiny volumes..... Until this week..... All IMO. As ever, DYOR. As a holder here (and sometime trader) for the last 7 or 8 years I probably can't be viewed as a neutral observer. As I posted only yesterday morning: garth - 23 Jun'08 - 10:25 - 2604 of 2617 edit Up on the news now and no shares around..... Reckon we could see 85-90p before the results on thursday and expect the results to quickly take us above 100p... IMO only though. Well, 2 days of trading later and we are already there. I stand by 100p but my short term target remains 140p. That would put us on just 10x earnings against a chemical sector average of nearer to 16x. I see that as nice and conservative. We are bound to see some caution on 2008-9 and a 10x rating would reflect that. But come 2010 I would expect a rating closer to 16 to 20x and a share price closer to £3. That is more than 3.5x the current share price. G.
12/6/2008
08:24
garth: Clangor, I believe this is once again a reflection on the depth of the market for these shares at current levels. We have seen the same story all the way down from about 140p We have had a seller slowly dripping shares into a depressed market for small caps. The effect is worsened by the uncertainly currently surrounding Dyson ahead of the Strategic Review statement and results in 2 weeks time. With few buyers the seller has, IMO, manipulated the order book by taking out buy orders and driving the price down. People look at the collapsing share price and begin to ask questions about what we might see in the results.... Can you buy shares at these prices? Few. Why? No-one wants to sell at these levels because the current share price considerably undervalues the company. And I know - I was saying the same thing at 140p The thing is - you could only buy relatively small amounts of shares then too. A rating of 10x forecast earnings would place us at 140p and that is double todays price. Carolite is now absolutely out of the share price. A major slow down in Saffil is now factored in. The improvements in Thermal Technologies - photovoltaics etc. and no-where to be seen in th ecurrent share price. How do you square that with the March trading statement: Overall the business is performing in line with management's expectations and the Directors expect to report an underlying pre-tax profit of approximately £6.5 million in respect of the year-ending 31 March 2008. The strategic review of the Group's businesses continues on schedule and it is expected that the conclusions will be announced at the same time as the final results. As previously reported, Saffil(R) is experiencing some softness in the US market. However, the business is holding up well and the order book for 2009 and 2010 is growing. Dyson Thermal Technologies continues to deliver a stable contribution. The Board believes that some new opportunities should start to be realised during the new financial year. Assessment of Carolite(TM) continues and consultants from Philips Technologies have been engaged to assist with this. A prospective customer is also currently undertaking performance tests on Carolite(TM).... Patrick Lammers, Chief Executive of Dyson, said: "The strategic review which will guide the Group in the coming years is well under way and I am particularly encouraged by the prospective order book for Saffil(R) and the initiatives in Dyson Thermal Technologies."
18/2/2008
10:29
garth: Patrick Lammers describes himself as 'a cautious man'. He clearly does not wish to say anything that is not based in certainty. He is conducting a full management review. This includes making a tour of a significant number of key customers - something which it appears has not previously been the practice of Dyson's senior managment team. He would appear to be coming to the conclusion that Dyson have been too product orientated. His desire is to 'scope up' the Dyson game and bring more adequate answers to the questions that the market is asking. It sounds like a certain amount of restructuring may be on the cards in order to achieve this. Mr Lammers brings with him a well established network of contacts in Europe and Asia and he anticipates these helping Dyson to make quick in-roads to these markets. This, along with new emissions legislation in the US in 2009/10 will see "a big leap" for Saffil with increasing revenues for the company and a demand for further increases in output. Whilst 2009 looks to remain softer in the US, the outlook for Saffil is "quite good". As I cast my mind back 18 months we were asking how the company could possibly ramp up production quick enough to meet demand - they needed to take lines off for scheduled maintenance etc. Perhaps a temporary slack before an already visible up-lift may not be a bad thing while the company re-positions itself? PL has clearly made a decision not to give away anything more than he had to today - prefering to give a full and clear statement with the Final results. His review will be complete and presented then. He is not at all concerned about the situation in South Africa. He confirmed that they have encountered not outages. In the event that they did encounter scheduled down-times their energy demands were such that these could be covered by Genset power. He is not concerned about debt. I asked whether the weakening of the UK commercial property sector placed any doubt over their abilility to pay down debt with property sales. Mr Lammers did not believe it would. He was not concerned about the debt. As for development of new technologies, the mantra would now seem to be - roll in the cash. PL wants clear evidence that new tech will generate more cash. Proper due diligence needs to be done - but with a "can do" view. Anything that can't show how it will add to the bottom line sounds as though it will hit the fridge. But the tone seemed to indicate that that there was plenty there with scope to satisfy the "questions" the market was asking..... But what of Carolite? I have held the view for some time that we might see Carolite 'refrigerated' but that the shares remain good value simply on the current business. I left our conversation with a more positive view than that. I put it to Patrick Lammers that, as a shareholder for some 7 years, I had repeatedly read comments that seemed to imply that successful testing had been achieved only to find that Carolite was back in testing... He acknowledged that this had been the case. Carolite specifications for the HDD industry "have been something of a moving target". Dyson have repeatedly shown that the product meets spec - only for the spec to change. It seems that some additional 'professional help' has now been enlisted. A specific partner (un-named: I ran through the list - Seagate, Komag, etc. but PL would not be drawn) is currently 'testing' the product. From the 'moving target' discussion it seemed implicit that this was 'fixed target' testing. The impression I gained - although in no way explicitly stated - was that this was something different to what we have heard before. But it has to be restated - that was just an impression. I also got the impression that we might see more coming out of Thermal Technologies in the future. So, now we await the final results and the outcome of Mr Lammers review. I expect us to be pointed towards challange in the year ahead - both with re-facing the company marketward and from a softer US. But I anticipate cautious enthusiasm on the picture beyond that. Having seen the share price in almost continual decline since Mr Lammers took the helm, I did not expect to like him. The reality however, is that I warmed to his cautious, measured comments because contained within their dull crucible appeared to lie various gems for the patient investor. Valued at around just 7x forecast earnings for the year, offering a 4% divi & with no suggestion that Dyson will not hit forecasts, these still look a gift IMO. That does not rule out them getting cheaper still - we are clearly within the realms of irrationality and the very low share price means that we have a false market. The flip side is that were we to see even one keen buyer following conversations today then the upwards movement could be swift. All of the above represents my own interpretation of our conversation. My comments in no way constitute investment advice. Please do your own research. Today's RNS includes contact details for today. Mr Lammers clearly has a busy day of calls lined up. For further information, please contact: Dyson Group plc Today only: 01756 770376 Patrick Lammers, Chief Executive Officer Nick Parker, Finance Director Rawlings Financial PR Limited Tel: 01756 770376 Catriona Valentine
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